Subtitles section Play video Print subtitles [Johns Hopkins Psilocybin Research Project:] [Studies of Mystical Experience and Meditation] [in Healthy Volunteers, and Palliative Effects] [in Cancer Patients] [Roland R. Griffiths, PhD April 21, 2013] Well, thank you very much for being here. I woke up this morning feeling really gratitude-filled, not only for the opportunity to participate in this research, but to the organizers of this meeting: MAPS and Beckley Foundation, the Heffter Research Institute, the Council on Spiritual Practice, and particularly Rick Doblin, who did just a terrific job in pulling this together. And gratitude also to the larger community that comes together. So what I want to do today is talk about our program at Johns Hopkins looking at mystical experience in healthy volunteers. This is our psilocybin research project. And just start by commenting that support for this has been provided by grants from various different entities, including the Heffter Research Institute, Council on Spiritual Practices, the Beckley Foundation, the Riverstyx Foundation, Betsy Gordon Foundation, the Cormac family and the National Institute on Drug Abuse. Our research is being conducted at the Bayview campus of Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, and I also want to underscore that I'm just a figurehead up here for a very dedicated and competent research team. There are actually ten of us here at the meeting today, nine of whom have given presentations already, and we have, I think, six others from the team, not all full-time, back in Baltimore. But in addition to me there's Bill Richards who's been our chief clinical mentor, and he gave a spectacular talk yesterday reflecting on his 25 years of experience of doing research with psychedelic drugs; Matt Johnson, who's been with us since 2004 and who's my kind of scientific alter ego at Hopkins, he's been very involved in all of the psilocybin research throughout the time that we've been doing it; Katherine MacLean, who's joined us recently, and joined the faculty, comes with a particular interest in meditation, which is a focus of some of our research and of interest to me; Mary Casamano and Brian Richards, who spoke yesterday about managing difficult experiences; Mary probably has the distinction of being someone who's guided more approved psychedelic sessions than any other individual in the last couple decades: hundreds of sessions; and then Al Garcia-Romeu and Matt Bradstreet are post-docs. Al's been working on the psilocybin smoking cessation project. Matt has just headed up an interesting survey study on challenging experiences. He presented a poster, and Al talked about his work, I think, on Friday. Maggie Kleindienst keeps our unit together. She's our liaison to FDA, DEA, our IRB, and she manages and coordinates all of our studies. Bob Jesse, who has been involved from the inception of this work with healthy volunteers and the interest in mystical experience. So we initiated the development of our first study back in 1999, so it's been a while, and initially recruitment and the studies proceeded really quite slowly, partly because of funding, partly because of logistics. But we've completed two very major studies, one in healthy volunteers and a survey study, and we've spun off at least seven publications at this time, but things are picking up. So there's a number of ongoing studies, some of which I'll mention today: effects of psilocybin in beginning meditators. We're just initiating study of psilocybin effects in long-term meditators. Psilocybin treatment in psychologically distressed cancer patients: that's a study that's ongoing, and I'm choosing not to talk about it because Charlie Grob and Steve Ross and Tony [Bossis] have all talked about their trials, but I do want to put in a plug, that we're actively recruiting. We need another 15 volunteers. We have a travel grant program, so we can bring people in nationally, and so if you know of anyone who has some existential distress around the cancer diagnosis, please let them know of our study. The website is cancer-insight.org, and if they go to that website there's plenty of information about the study and how to enroll. Finally, the final ongoing study that Matt Johnson'll be talking about later this afternoon is a pilot study of psilocybin facilitation of smoking cessation, which is a really fascinating study with very interesting results. So to date, we've run 190 volunteers over 460 sessions. So we've gained pretty substantial experience with these compounds, and this is all moderate to high dose, 20-30mg/70kg, so these are high-dose sessions. Briefly, by way of background, psilocybin is a naturally occurring tryptamine alkaloid. It's the principal psychoactive component in the Psilocybe genus of mushroom. Mushrooms have been used for thousands of years within in various cultures in structured or divinatory settings. So there's this long historical use, medical and sacred use of these compounds. The classic hallucinogens, this is our best working definition of it. The classical hallucinogens are a structurally diverse group of compounds, bind 5HT(2A) serotonin receptors, and produce a unique profile of changes in thought and perception and emotions, often including profound alterations in the perception of reality, that are rarely experienced except in dreams, naturally-occurring mystical experiences, and acute psychoses. So psilocybin is a tryptamine and DMT is also a tryptamine. There's a phenethylamine serotinergic or classic hallucinogens such as mescaline and DMT. One other comment about background: considerable research was conducted with psilocybin and the classic hallucinogens back in the '50s and '60s, and as we all know, subsequently, research for these compounds went dormant for two or three decades, depending on what laboratories were working. But the substantial work was shut down for close to four decades, and it was in response to the widespread medical use and concern about potential harms, and in my opinion the antics of Timothy Leary, which really undermined a scientific approach to studying these compounds. But we had a cultural trauma surrounding research with these compounds that's really unprecedented, as far as I'm concerned, in science generally. So this is an overview of what I want to talk to you about this morning. I'm going to describe our two published studies in healthy volunteers characterizing mystical experiences, go on to two ongoing studies in meditators, one in novice meditators and one we're just about to undertake in long-term meditators, and then I'll talk about two web-based anonymous surveys in which we've been looking at the effects of psilocybin when people ingest mushrooms in non-research settings, and very briefly with some conclusions, implications, and future directions. So the two published studies in healthy participants: both studies used double-blind crossover designs. The first study, 36 participants, two or three sessions at two-month intervals compared a high dose of psilocybin with a high dose of methylphenidate or Ritalin. The design effectively obscured to volunteers and monitors exactly what drugs were being tested. The second study: 18 participants, five sessions at one-month intervals, comparing placebo, 5, 10, 20, 30 milligrams of psilocybin administered in mixed sequence across sessions. Actually, it was mixed but half got ascending, half got descending with intermixed placebo so they didn't know that. The participants in these studies were recruited from the local community through flyers and newspaper advertisements. The study participants were medically and psychiatrically healthy, without histories of hallucinogen use. We did this intentionally to reduce the possibility that we'd have selection bias, that people didn't differentially come into the study who had had good effects with psilocybin and then confound what kind of generalities we could draw from that. The volunteers didn't receive monetary compensation for participation. So, the participants: just one comment. I'm going to intermix the description of the methods and results for these first two studies, because they're really so similar, so what I'm doing here now is providing demographics for both of the studies combined rather than try to parse those apart. So the mean age of these 54 volunteers in these 2 studies was 46 years, half female, highly educated, most employed full-time, part-time. We had physicians, psychologists, counselors, pastoral counselors, business owners, consultants, a wide variety primarily of professional-level people. In terms of religious, spiritual activities, all 54 indicated at least intermittent participation in religious or spiritual activities, such as religious services, prayer, meditation, church choir. We did this partly because it's consistent with the long historical use of these compounds sacramentally, and also to reduce what we thought might be some inherent variability. So volunteers...our basic way that we approached these studies is very similar to that's already been described by these other research teams. Our volunteers meet with monitors for up to 8 hours of contact time prior to the first session, and the purpose of this is to establish good rapport, and trust, because the thought is that that's going to minimize adverse effects to psilocybin. Studies are conducted in aesthetic living-room-like environment. This is a laboratory's unlike any other that we have in our psychopharmacology research unit. This over-showed slide at this juncture, I think it's been showed ten times over the course of this meeting, shows what happens on session days. So people come in at 8 in the morning, they take a capsule, they're in the presence of two guides or monitors throughout the day. They're asked to lay on the couch, wear eyeshades and headphones through which they listen to a program of music. The guides are there to provide reassurance if anxiety or fear come up. That could just be verbal reassurance or touch to the shoulder or holding a hand. But it's our intention to let people have their own experience, and we ask them to go inward. So this isn't guided in any psycholytic kind of sense of how some of these sessions have been conducted in the past at lower doses, because we're interested in these high-dose sessions. So this shows time course of monitor ratings. This is from the dose effects study. Just showing