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  • Interviewer: You said you're confident there were no good options for the US to be able to stop what's

  • going on in Syria without getting our troops involved in a quagmire.

  • Obama: Right.

  • Interviewer: When you see images from Syria do you ever doubt yourself or second guess the decisions

  • you made?

  • Obama: In Syria there is not a scenario in which absent us deploying large numbers of troops

  • we can stop a civil war in which both sides are deeply dug in.

  • There have been critics of mine that have suggested, "well you know if early enough

  • you had provided sufficient support to a moderate opposition they might have been able to overthrow

  • the murderous Assad regime."

  • The problem with that as we've seen, is that, that Assad regime is supported by Russia.

  • It's supported by Iran.

  • Because they have not threatened us directly we would've been violating international law

  • as it's understood to just go in there and invade.

  • And unless we were willing to sustain a large presence there and escalate if and when Russia

  • or Iran got involved then we were gonna be in a situation where at some point the situation

  • would collapse, except, we would have a bunch of folks on the ground and we'd be overextended.

  • In addition, keep in mind that we still have a situation in Iraq in which we had to support

  • a fragile government.

  • We still had a situation in Afghanistan which depsite the incredible sacrifices that we've

  • made we've given them opportunity to succeed but they're not out of the woods yet.

  • We've spent well over one trillion dollars.

  • There is a long tail in terms of cost of those that come home with wounds seen and unseen.

  • So it's in these situations where you have to make judgements about what is best for

  • national security interests of the United States.

  • Even though what you see is heart breaking.

  • That's one of the most difficult decisions you make as President but historically if

  • you look at what happens to great nations more often than not is that they end up having

  • problems because they are overextended, don't have a clear sense of what is their core interest,

  • and what is things that they'd like to help.

  • The key in Syria at this point is unless we can get the parties involved to recognize

  • that they are just burning their country to the ground and get it on a diplomatic and

  • political track, frankly there's gonna be a limit to what we can do.

  • We will try to mitigate the pain and suffering that those folks are undergoing.

  • Part of the reason why are approach to refugees, for example, has to be open-hearted.

  • Although also hard-headed to protect our homeland.

  • But at the end of the day, there are gonna be challenges around the world that happen

  • that don't directly touch on our security where we need to help.

  • We need to help lead.

  • But just sending in more troops isn't going to be the answer.

Interviewer: You said you're confident there were no good options for the US to be able to stop what's

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