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  • I'd like to talk today about the two biggest social trends

  • in the coming century,

  • and perhaps in the next 10,000 years.

  • But I want to start with my work on romantic love,

  • because that's my most recent work.

  • What I and my colleagues did was put 32 people, who were madly in love,

  • into a functional MRI brain scanner.

  • 17 who were madly in love and their love was accepted;

  • and 15 who were madly in love and they had just been dumped.

  • And so I want to tell you about that first,

  • and then go on into where I think love is going.

  • (Laughter)

  • "What 'tis to love?" Shakespeare said.

  • I think our ancestors --

  • I think human beings have been wondering about this question

  • since they sat around their campfires

  • or lay and watched the stars a million years ago.

  • I started out by trying to figure out what romantic love was

  • by looking at the last 45 years of the psychological research

  • and as it turns out,

  • there's a very specific group of things that happen when you fall in love.

  • The first thing that happens is,

  • a person begins to take on what I call, "special meaning."

  • As a truck driver once said to me,

  • "The world had a new center, and that center was Mary Anne."

  • George Bernard Shaw said it differently.

  • "Love consists of overestimating the differences

  • between one woman and another."

  • And indeed, that's what we do.

  • (Laughter)

  • And then you just focus on this person.

  • You can list what you don't like about them,

  • but then you sweep that aside and focus on what you do.

  • As Chaucer said, "Love is blind."

  • In trying to understand romantic love,

  • I decided I would read poetry from all over the world,

  • and I just want to give you one very short poem

  • from eighth-century China,

  • because it's an almost perfect example

  • of a man who is focused totally on a particular woman.

  • It's a little bit like when you are madly in love with somebody

  • and you walk into a parking lot --

  • their car is different from every other car in the parking lot.

  • Their wine glass at dinner

  • is different from every other wine glass at the dinner party.

  • And in this case, a man got hooked on a bamboo sleeping mat.

  • And it goes like this.

  • It's by a guy called Yuan Zhen.

  • "I cannot bear to put away the bamboo sleeping mat.

  • The night I brought you home, I watched you roll it out."

  • He became hooked on a sleeping mat,

  • probably because of elevated activity of dopamine in his brain,

  • just like with you and me.

  • But anyway, not only does this person take on special meaning,

  • you focus your attention on them.

  • You aggrandize them.

  • But you have intense energy.

  • As one Polynesian said, "I felt like jumping in the sky."

  • You're up all night. You're walking till dawn.

  • You feel intense elation when things are going well;

  • mood swings into horrible despair when things are going poorly.

  • Real dependence on this person.

  • As one businessman in New York said to me,

  • "Anything she liked, I liked."

  • Simple. Romantic love is very simple.

  • You become extremely sexually possessive.

  • You know, if you're just sleeping with somebody casually,

  • you don't really care if they're sleeping with somebody else.

  • But the moment you fall in love,

  • you become extremely sexually possessive of them.

  • I think there's a Darwinian purpose to this.

  • The whole point of this is to pull two people together

  • strongly enough to begin to rear babies as a team.

  • But the main characteristics of romantic love are craving:

  • an intense craving to be with a particular person,

  • not just sexually, but emotionally.

  • It would be nice to go to bed with them,

  • but you want them to call you on the telephone, to invite you out, etc.,

  • to tell you that they love you.

  • The other main characteristic is motivation.

  • The motor in the brain begins to crank, and you want this person.

  • And last but not least, it is an obsession.

  • Before I put these people in the MRI machine,

  • I would ask them all kinds of questions.

  • But my most important question was always the same.

  • It was: "What percentage of the day and night do you think about this person?"

  • And indeed, they would say,

  • "All day. All night.

  • I can never stop thinking about him or her."

  • And then, the very last question --

  • I would always have to work myself up to this question,

  • because I'm not a psychologist.

  • I don't work with people in any kind of traumatic situation.

  • My final question was always the same.

  • I would say, "Would you die for him or her?"

  • And, indeed, these people would say "Yes!"

  • as if I had asked them to pass the salt.

  • I was just staggered by it.

  • So we scanned their brains,

  • looking at a photograph of their sweetheart

  • and looking at a neutral photograph,

  • with a distraction task in between.

  • So we could look at the same brain when it was in that heightened state

  • and when it was in a resting state.

  • And we found activity in a lot of brain regions.

  • In fact, one of the most important was a brain region

  • that becomes active when you feel the rush of cocaine.

  • And indeed, that's exactly what happens.

  • I began to realize that romantic love is not an emotion.

  • In fact, I had always thought it was a series of emotions,

  • from very high to very low.

  • But actually, it's a drive.

  • It comes from the motor of the mind,

  • the wanting part of the mind, the craving part of the mind.

  • The kind of part of the mind

  • when you're reaching for that piece of chocolate,

  • when you want to win that promotion at work.

  • The motor of the brain.

  • It's a drive.

  • And in fact, I think it's more powerful than the sex drive.

  • You know, if you ask somebody to go to bed with you,

  • and they say, "No, thank you,"

  • you certainly don't kill yourself or slip into a clinical depression.

  • But certainly, around the world,

  • people who are rejected in love will kill for it.

  • People live for love.

  • They kill for love.

  • They die for love.

  • They have songs, poems, novels,

  • sculptures, paintings, myths, legends.

  • In over 175 societies,

  • people have left their evidence of this powerful brain system.

  • I have come to think

  • it's one of the most powerful brain systems on Earth

  • for both great joy and great sorrow.

  • And I've also come to think

  • that it's one of three basically different brain systems

  • that evolved from mating and reproduction.

  • One is the sex drive: the craving for sexual gratification.

  • W.H. Auden called it an "intolerable neural itch,"

  • and indeed, that's what it is.

  • It keeps bothering you a little bit, like being hungry.

  • The second of these three brain systems is romantic love:

  • that elation, obsession of early love.

  • And the third brain system is attachment:

  • that sense of calm and security you can feel for a long-term partner.

  • And I think that the sex drive evolved to get you out there,

  • looking for a whole range of partners.

  • You can feel it when you're just driving along in your car.

  • It can be focused on nobody.

  • I think romantic love evolved to enable you to focus your mating energy

  • on just one individual at a time,

  • thereby conserving mating time and energy.

  • And I think that attachment, the third brain system,

  • evolved to enable you to tolerate this human being

  • at least long enough to raise a child together as a team.

  • So with that preamble,

  • I want to go into discussing the two most profound social trends.

  • One of the last 10,000 years

  • and the other, certainly of the last 25 years,

  • that are going to have an impact on these three different brain systems:

  • lust, romantic love and deep attachment to a partner.

  • The first is women working, moving into the workforce.

  • I've looked at 130 societies

  • through the demographic yearbooks of the United Nations.

  • Everywhere in the world, 129 out of 130 of them,

  • women are not only moving into the job market --

  • sometimes very, very slowly, but they are moving into the job market --

  • and they are very slowly closing that gap between men and women

  • in terms of economic power, health and education.

  • It's very slow.

  • For every trend on this planet, there's a counter-trend.

  • We all know of them, but nevertheless --

  • the Arabs say, "The dogs may bark, but the caravan moves on."

  • And, indeed, that caravan is moving on.

  • Women are moving back into the job market.

  • And I say back into the job market, because this is not new.

  • For millions of years, on the grasslands of Africa,

  • women commuted to work to gather their vegetables.

  • They came home with 60 to 80 percent of the evening meal.

  • The double income family was the standard.

  • And women were regarded as just as economically,

  • socially and sexually powerful as men.

  • In short, we're really moving forward to the past.

  • Then, women's worst invention was the plow.

  • With the beginning of plow agriculture, men's roles became extremely powerful.

  • Women lost their ancient jobs as collectors,

  • but then with the industrial revolution and the post-industrial revolution

  • they're moving back into the job market.

  • In short, they are acquiring the status that they had a million years ago,

  • 10,000 years ago, 100,000 years ago.

  • We are seeing now one of the most remarkable traditions

  • in the history of the human animal.

  • And it's going to have an impact.

  • I generally give a whole lecture

  • on the impact of women on the business community.

  • I'll say just a couple of things, and then go on to sex and love.

  • There's a lot of gender differences;

  • anybody who thinks men and women are alike

  • simply never had a boy and a girl child.

  • I don't know why they want to think that men and women are alike.

  • There's much we have in common,

  • but there's a whole lot that we do not have in common.

  • We are -- in the words of Ted Hughes,

  • "I think that we are like two feet. We need each other to get ahead."

  • But we did not evolve to have the same brain.

  • And we're finding more and more gender differences in the brain.

  • I'll only just use a couple and then move on to sex and love.

  • One of them is women's verbal ability.

  • Women can talk.

  • Women's ability to find the right word rapidly, basic articulation

  • goes up in the middle of the menstrual cycle,

  • when estrogen levels peak.

  • But even at menstruation, they're better than the average man.

  • Women can talk.

  • They've been doing it for a million years; words were women's tools.

  • They held that baby in front of their face,

  • cajoling it, reprimanding it, educating it with words.

  • And, indeed, they're becoming a very powerful force.

  • Even in places like India and Japan,

  • where women are not moving rapidly into the regular job market,

  • they're moving into journalism.

  • And I think that the television is like the global campfire.

  • We sit around it and it shapes our minds.

  • Almost always, when I'm on TV, the producer who calls me,

  • who negotiates what we're going to say,

  • is a woman.

  • In fact, Solzhenitsyn once said,

  • "To have a great writer is to have another government."

  • Today 54 percent of people who are writers in America are women.

  • It's one of many, many characteristics that women have

  • that they will bring into the job market.

  • They've got incredible people skills, negotiating skills.

  • They're highly imaginative.

  • We now know the brain circuitry of imagination, of long-term planning.

  • They tend to be web thinkers.

  • Because the female parts of the brain are better connected,

  • they tend to collect more pieces of data when they think,

  • put them into more complex patterns, see more options and outcomes.

  • They tend to be contextual, holistic thinkers,

  • what I call web thinkers.

  • Men tend to -- and these are averages --

  • tend to get rid of what they regard as extraneous,

  • focus on what they do,

  • and move in a more step-by-step thinking pattern.

  • They're both perfectly good ways of thinking.

  • We need both of them to get ahead.

  • In fact, there's many more male geniuses in the world.

  • And there's also many more male idiots in the world.

  • (Laughter)

  • When the male brain works well, it works extremely well.

  • And what I really think that we're doing is,

  • we're moving towards a collaborative society,

  • a society in which the talents of both men and women

  • are becoming understood and valued and employed.

  • But in fact, women moving into the job market

  • is having a huge impact on sex and romance and family life.

  • Foremost, women are starting to express their sexuality.

  • I'm always astonished when people come to me and say,

  • "Why is it that men are so adulterous?"

  • "Why do you think more men are adulterous than women?"

  • "Well, men are more adulterous!"

  • And I say, "Who do you think these men are sleeping with?"

  • (Laughter)

  • And -- basic math!

  • Anyway.

  • In the Western world,

  • women start sooner at sex, have more partners,

  • express less remorse for the partners that they do,

  • marry later, have fewer children,

  • leave bad marriages in order to get good ones.

  • We are seeing the rise of female sexual expression.

  • And, indeed, once again we're moving forward to the kind of sexual expression

  • that we probably saw on the grasslands of Africa a million years ago,

  • because this is the kind of sexual expression that we see

  • in hunting and gathering societies today.

  • We're also returning to an ancient form of marriage equality.

  • They're now saying that the 21st century

  • is going to be the century of what they call the "symmetrical marriage,"

  • or the "pure marriage," or the "companionate marriage."

  • This is a marriage between equals,

  • moving forward to a pattern

  • that is highly compatible with the ancient human spirit.

  • We're also seeing a rise of romantic love.

  • 91 percent of American women and 86 percent of American men

  • would not marry somebody who had every single quality

  • they were looking for in a partner,

  • if they were not in love with that person.

  • People around the world, in a study of 37 societies,

  • want to be in love with the person that they marry.

  • Indeed, arranged marriages are on their way off this braid of human life.

  • I even think that marriages might even become more stable

  • because of the second great world trend.

  • The first one being women moving into the job market,

  • the second one being the aging world population.

  • They're now saying that in America,

  • that middle age should be regarded as up to age 85.

  • Because in that highest age category of 76 to 85,

  • as much as 40 percent of people have nothing really wrong with them.

  • So we're seeing there's a real extension of middle age.

  • For one of my books, I looked at divorce data in 58 societies.

  • And as it turns out, the older you get, the less likely you are to divorce.

  • So the divorce rate right now is stable in America,

  • and it's actually beginning to decline.

  • It may decline some more.

  • I would even say that with Viagra,

  • estrogen replacement, hip replacements

  • and the incredibly interesting women

  • -- women have never been as interesting as they are now.

  • Not at any time on this planet have women been so educated,

  • so interesting, so capable.

  • And so I honestly think that if there really was ever a time in human evolution

  • when we have the opportunity to make good marriages, that time is now.

  • However, there's always kinds of complications in this.

  • These three brain systems -- lust, romantic love and attachment --

  • don't always go together.

  • They can go together, by the way.

  • That's why casual sex isn't so casual.

  • With orgasm you get a spike of dopamine.

  • Dopamine's associated with romantic love,

  • and you can just fall in love with somebody

  • who you're just having casual sex with.

  • With orgasm, then you get a real rush of oxytocin and vasopressin --

  • those are associated with attachment.

  • This is why you can feel such a sense of cosmic union with somebody

  • after you've made love to them.

  • But these three brain systems: lust, romantic love and attachment,

  • aren't always connected to each other.

  • You can feel deep attachment to a long-term partner

  • while you feel intense romantic love for somebody else,

  • while you feel the sex drive for people unrelated to these other partners.

  • In short, we're capable of loving more than one person at a time.

  • In fact, you can lie in bed at night

  • and swing from deep feelings of attachment for one person

  • to deep feelings of romantic love for somebody else.

  • It's as if there's a committee meeting going on in your head

  • as you are trying to decide what to do.

  • So I don't think, honestly,

  • we're an animal that was built to be happy;

  • we are an animal that was built to reproduce.

  • I think the happiness we find, we make.

  • And I think, however,

  • we can make good relationships with each other.

  • So I want to conclude with two things.

  • I want to conclude with a worry,

  • and with a wonderful story.

  • The worry is about antidepressants.

  • Over 100 million prescriptions of antidepressants

  • are written every year in the United States.

  • And these drugs are going generic.

  • They are seeping around the world.

  • I know one girl who's been on these antidepressants,

  • SSRIs, serotonin-enhancing antidepressants -- since she was 13.

  • She's 23. She's been on them ever since she was 13.

  • I've got nothing against people who take them short term,

  • when they're going through something horrible.

  • They want to commit suicide or kill somebody else.

  • I would recommend it.

  • But more and more people in the United States

  • are taking them long term.

  • And indeed, what these drugs do is raise levels of serotonin.

  • And by raising levels of serotonin, you suppress the dopamine circuit.

  • Everybody knows that.

  • Dopamine is associated with romantic love.

  • Not only do they suppress the dopamine circuit,

  • but they kill the sex drive.

  • And when you kill the sex drive, you kill orgasm.

  • And when you kill orgasm,

  • you kill that flood of drugs associated with attachment.

  • The things are connected in the brain.

  • And when you tamper with one brain system,

  • you're going to tamper with another.

  • I'm just simply saying that a world without love is a deadly place.

  • So now --

  • (Applause)

  • Thank you.

  • I want to end with a story.

  • And then, just a comment.

  • I've been studying romantic love and sex and attachment for 30 years.

  • I'm an identical twin; I am interested in why we're all alike.

  • Why you and I are alike, why the Iraqis and the Japanese

  • and the Australian Aborigines and the people of the Amazon River

  • are all alike.

  • And about a year ago,

  • an Internet dating service, Match.com, came to me

  • and asked me if I would design a new dating site for them.

  • I said, "I don't know anything about personality. You know?

  • I don't know. Do you think you've got the right person?"

  • They said, "Yes."

  • It got me thinking about why it is that you fall in love

  • with one person rather than another.

  • That's my current project; it will be my next book.

  • There's all kinds of reasons

  • that you fall in love with one person rather than another.

  • Timing is important. Proximity is important.

  • Mystery is important.

  • You fall in love with somebody who's somewhat mysterious,

  • in part because mystery elevates dopamine in the brain,

  • probably pushes you over that threshold to fall in love.

  • You fall in love with somebody

  • who fits within what I call your "love map,"

  • an unconscious list of traits

  • that you build in childhood as you grow up.

  • And I also think that you gravitate to certain people,

  • actually, with somewhat complementary brain systems.

  • And that's what I'm now contributing to this.

  • But I want to tell you a story, to illustrate.

  • I've been carrying on here about the biology of love.

  • I wanted to show you a little bit about the culture of it, too,

  • the magic of it.

  • It's a story that was told to me

  • by somebody who had heard it just from one --

  • probably a true story.

  • It was a graduate student -- I'm at Rutgers and my two colleagues --

  • Art Aron is at SUNY Stony Brook.

  • That's where we put our people in the MRI machine.

  • And this graduate student was madly in love with another graduate student,

  • and she was not in love with him.

  • And they were all at a conference in Beijing.

  • And he knew from our work

  • that if you go and do something very novel with somebody,

  • you can drive up the dopamine in the brain,

  • and perhaps trigger this brain system for romantic love.

  • (Laughter)

  • So he decided he'd put science to work.

  • And he invited this girl to go off on a rickshaw ride with him.

  • And sure enough -- I've never been in one,

  • but apparently they go all around the buses and the trucks

  • and it's crazy and it's noisy and it's exciting.

  • He figured that this would drive up the dopamine,

  • and she'd fall in love with him.

  • So off they go and she's squealing and squeezing him

  • and laughing and having a wonderful time.

  • An hour later they get down off of the rickshaw,

  • and she throws her hands up and she says,

  • "Wasn't that wonderful?"

  • And, "Wasn't that rickshaw driver handsome!"

  • (Laughter)

  • (Applause)

  • There's magic to love!

  • (Applause)

  • But I will end by saying that millions of years ago,

  • we evolved three basic drives:

  • the sex drive, romantic love

  • and attachment to a long-term partner.

  • These circuits are deeply embedded in the human brain.

  • They're going to survive as long as our species survives

  • on what Shakespeare called "this mortal coil."

  • Thank you.

  • Chris Anderson: Helen Fisher!

  • (Applause)

I'd like to talk today about the two biggest social trends

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