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  • Through most of this campaign on our European

  • future, the Remain camp led by the Prime Minister have

  • dominated the headlines, with blood-curdling warnings

  • about the economic danger of leaving.

  • But this week, the Leave campaign has put itself

  • The issue that's cutting through is immigration.

  • The EU immigration story really started back in 2004

  • when a surge of migrants arrived here from Eastern Europe.

  • The man in charge then, who is today a passionate advocate of Remain,

  • is Tony Blair the former Prime Minister.

  • And as gloves come off over immigration, one of the most vocal

  • opponents of EU membership and a likely contender in any Tory

  • leadership campaign, former Defence Secretary Liam Fox joins me.

  • Also here, reviewing our papers, a man who knows all about

  • the turmoil the euro has caused but nevertheless wants us

  • to stay inside the EU, Greece's former

  • Speaking of Greece, have we in this country too often treated it

  • as a sun-soaked holiday destination and not thought enough about

  • That's the theme of a new play starring Elizabeth McGovern

  • I caught up with a dressed down Lady Grantham at

  • And there's music from the Nashville singer who created what might have

  • been John Peel's favourite album ever, Laura Cantrell.

  • And alongside Yanis Varoufakis, one of Fleet Street's

  • leading Eurosceptic voices, The Daily Mail's Amanda Platell.

  • But first the news from Christian Fraser.

  • Two senior Conservatives have publicly challenged David Cameron

  • to accept the failure of his manifesto pledge

  • The Prime Minister promised to reduce net migration

  • The current figure is more than three times that amount.

  • Boris Johnson and the Justice Secretary, Michael Gove,

  • who both support the Vote Leave campaign, have written an open

  • letter, saying the promise to slash net immigration to the "tens

  • of thousands" is not achievable as long as the UK

  • They say the failure to keep this promise is corrosive

  • Downing Street described the move as "a transparent attempt

  • to distract from the fact that most economists think that leaving

  • the single market would be disastrous for jobs,

  • Iraqi government forces have made gains in their offensive to drive

  • so-called Islamic State militants from Fallujah.

  • Large numbers of troops have been deployed near the city and have

  • taken the town of Karma, which was the front

  • It comes just days after Washington said an Islamic State

  • commander was killed, along with dozens of militants,

  • A man has been killed in Poland and a child is on life support

  • in a French hospital after a series of lightning strikes across Europe.

  • The child was struck during a birthday party

  • According to local authorities, 11 people, including eight children,

  • were injured while trying to seek shelter under a tree.

  • The 100th anniversary of the Battle of Verdun,

  • the longest of the First World War, will be commemorated

  • As many as 800,000 soldiers are believed to have been killed

  • or wounded during the 1916 battle, which became known

  • The French President, Francois Hollande,

  • Angela Merkel, are expected to call for European unity when they lay

  • Now the front pages, you would expect lots of politics and you have

  • got them. David Cameron, to which to care about immigration, says Priti

  • Patel. We will talk about that later. I cannot show you the front

  • page of the Sun, but here is page two, all about the referendum. It is

  • about the shoot out after the poll. This is a pretty tough letter

  • because it suggests he undermined deliberately public trust by the

  • tens of thousands. On the Daily Mail,, this one takes a slightly

  • different view. The Observer, a massive boost for the Prime Minister

  • is over 600 economists reject or accept. That is the story that

  • Number Ten say the other stories are there to divert us away from. Yanis

  • Varoufakis and Amanda Platell, it is great to have you here. It signifies

  • a retreat from the Tories who are for the Leave campaign away from

  • what I consider to be their strong issue, sovereignty. They have

  • retreated to the Ukip agenda of scaremongering about migration. This

  • is very interesting because the two campaigns were against each other.

  • The Ukip campaign and the Tory campaign. What they have found...

  • This campaign has been running for some weeks now, the Leave campaign

  • have lost the argument on the economy so now they are thinking,

  • they had regrouped last week, we have one month to go, what can we

  • win on? Immigration. Their weakest argument from where I am standing is

  • migration. The fact they are treating simply shows panic and a

  • descent to an abyss from which I do not believe they can recover. It is

  • what a lot of people in this country really care about in terms of stress

  • on the NHS. Of course these are genuine concerns, but what I am

  • reading today in the paper is grabbing. To be clear, there was a

  • meeting earlier this week and this is a change of tack. Absolutely,

  • they realised they lost the argument on the economy. The euro is in the

  • perilous state, but they didn't win it, time is running out, so you go

  • back to what your strongest points are. In the Sun you have Michael

  • Gove having slagged off David Cameron in the Remain. He said the

  • five key facts David Cameron cannot answer, and it is immigration,

  • immigration, immigration... All of them are immigration. The force of

  • this letter is that it is true in that the tens of thousands promise

  • could not possibly be technically met ever so for the Prime

  • Minister... To go to the Prime Minister and say you have made a big

  • mistake... The Tories cannot say they didn't support this claim, they

  • supported it at the last election. Your point is an excellent one. The

  • worst enemy of the Remain campaign has been David Cameron, promises

  • that he has delivered that cannot be fulfilled. The forge that he came

  • back from Brussels, presenting it as a reformed, I am a supporter of

  • Remain but I wish David Cameron was not campaigning on my side. Very

  • good. Where are we going next? The Economist is next. A very brief

  • comment against my own lot. It was once said that if you laid every

  • economist in the world end to end, they still wouldn't reach a

  • conclusion. Indeed! But there was something worse to say about us. The

  • Royal economic Society, of which I am a member, these are the very same

  • economists to whom the Queen addressed a letter with a

  • devastating question, why didn't you see it coming? They spent three

  • months concocting the longest apology in the history of social

  • science. To have those same economists with wonderful predictive

  • powers... We don't trust you that much, with all due respect. You

  • shouldn't, we have never predicted anything! That is also true. There

  • is so much mud slinging, the knives are out of the back pockets, and you

  • see John Major saying he is savaging boorish Brexit. He is calling them

  • liars. What happens at the end of all of this? Do you take the view

  • that whatever happens in the vote there will be a leadership challenge

  • quite quickly? If I were to bet on it, yes, cause there is such mutiny

  • in the way the Government have used their resources to create this fear

  • campaign at the start of the election, and these people used to

  • be friends. Michael Gove and David Cameron used to be great friends,

  • you cannot go back from that. Also I have met up for drinks, I have to

  • say, with a number of these people who claim they are the ones who want

  • David Cameron out, who claimed they already have the signatures they

  • need. On John Major's point, if I may add, John Major is completely

  • right. The Treasury's figures are dodgy, not worth the paper they are

  • written on, but where John Major... He is highlighting the fact the

  • Leave campaign is also based on dodgy statistics. Let's face it,

  • this is a one-off event, it has never happened in the history of the

  • world for a country like Britain to leave the union like the European

  • Union. To pin down what this will mean for mortgages, the value of the

  • pound and so on, it is not based on scientific facts. The discussion

  • should be about sovereignty, about the effect of the Brexit on Europe,

  • on the British people, this is the discussion we should be having. I

  • think I have just found an economist I trust. I am going to stick however

  • with the Tory infighting story because my colleague John Pienaar

  • had an interesting chat with a Tory backbencher who said these are the

  • numbers, we are going to have this challenge, and that connects to

  • Priti Patel who was also going for the jugular. She was one of David

  • Cameron's proteges, she is going for broke now, distancing herself from

  • the leadership of the Tory party because these people suspect they

  • have a good chance of getting David Cameron up pretty quickly. It is a

  • sad fact that monumental referendum boils down to a Tory infighting

  • tussle about who will replace David Cameron. The Prime Minister has

  • already declared he doesn't want to be Prime Minister for much longer. A

  • lot of these campaigns are not Tory at all, the Labour Leave campaign,

  • the Remain campaign and so on. None of the big hitters are at the heart

  • of the opposition are actually putting their heads up. Yesterday at

  • UCL we had more than 1000 people and we try to do exactly that, to bring

  • the radical case for participating in the referendum from our Remain...

  • To actually animate it and have something to say that goes beyond

  • tactics. There are people on the left in this country arguing Brexit

  • should be supported because it will split the Tory party. This kind of

  • mindset, it is very petty, just as petty as the Tory side. This is a

  • significant juncture in the history of Europe and we should be worried

  • about its effect on the generations to come.

  • We are showing the Tony Blair interview in a little bit of time.

  • Blair is all over the papers as well of course, making his case. His main

  • argument seems to be if you have any concerns don't believe because there

  • is a devil that you know and a devil that you don't know. Beforehand, I

  • pleaded that David Cameron should not be trying to help the Remain

  • campaign. If that is so, imagine how much more it is pertinent in the

  • case of Tony Blair. Having Tony Blair on your side in any campaign

  • is a glass of poison. And you have picked up a story in the Sunday

  • Telegraph about the Chilcot inquiry. Yes, I am surprised by this issue,

  • whether he should be tried and imprisoned or or not. I think the

  • best outcome... From the point of view of history and humanity would

  • be for Tony Blair to be forgotten and treated with the contempt it

  • deserves. We have failed to forget him on this programme yet, I take

  • your point. Any last stories before we crashed out of the paper review?

  • There was this wonderful thing on Britain's Got Talent, a guy who used