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  • The very fact that people see this as normal

  • speak loudly as of Taiwan's tolerance and acceptance and diversity.

  • Public sector cannot just do everything by itself.

  • It's not the era of planned governance anymore.

  • Mostly the innovations come from the private sector and the civil society.

  • And spaces like this are links between the private sector, the civil society, and the public sector.

  • The idea of open governance gained foothold, I think, only after the Sunflower Movement's occupy,

  • where people, for the first time, demonstrated in the parliament,

  • that they are able to talk about the trade service agreement.

  • This really was the landmark change, and everything else that we see as that

  • is kind of repercussion of this kind of demonstration, including this post of digital minister.

  • In my childhood, people wouldn't even entertain the idea of a woman running for president.

  • But for the last election, we had two ladies running for the president,

  • and people generally see it as fine, right?

  • So in the brief span of maybe just 30 years,

  • the society has just evolved so much.

The very fact that people see this as normal

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