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- Howard Smith: People seem to be having a lot of trouble
getting along with each other, I mean couples.
Both of you seem very, very close.
What's your secret?
- John Lennon: It's called love.
And there's nothing that splits that up.
I mean you get to work on it like it is a precious gift
and it's a plant and you've got to look after it
and water it and you don't just sit on your backside,
and think: "Oh well, we're in love, so that's alright.
But that's the secret. It's all true folks.
All you need is love.
I can't give you the formula for meeting the person that you're going to love.
But it's around. And it happens.
I mean it happened to me at 29 and Yoko at 32.
- Yoko Ono: Whatever.
- And it's a long wait, you know, I didn't think it was...
I thought it was an abstract thing.
When I was singing about "All You Need is Love",
I was talking about something I hadn't experienced.
I had experienced love for people in gusts
and love for things and trees and things like that,
but I hadn't experienced what I was singing about.
It's like anything, you sing about it first or write about it first,
and find out what you were talking about after.
- Well, I never thought that it would happen in this late stage of my life.
I mean I was just sort of... I was starting to give up hope. That kind of thing,
becoming very cynical and all that. But it happened and it's very, very, very good.
- It's no good having... being with people you can dominate all the time.
Or being with someone who can dominate you all the time.
Because either one is boring.
But if you're with somebody who's got a ticking mind--
which was the best part about being with the Beatles when they were ticking,
was they were ticking.
But it began to slow down.
- We certainly don't... - But with Yoko, it's
like living with 4 or 5 people.... It's far out.
- Well we do say, four of us
are getting along very well these days aren't we? Or something like that.
- That'll do. They'll have us put away.
- Marriage itself, as an official ceremony
seems to have somewhat gone out of style.
How come you decided to go through with a regular marriage?
- Because we turned out to be romantics.
I mean we went through the whole intellectual bit about marriage,
where it's a bit of paper and some guy gives it to you.
And that's all true.
But when he gave it to us,
it was very emotional, and it wasn't even a...
we couldn't even get a nice vicar or a bishop to do it.
It's completely against what we thought,
what I thought intellectually. I thought well it's never again, forget about this one.
You know, what a joke, what a joke it all is.
And the next minute, I'm standing there
and she's crying and it's like we're soft kids.
So we're romantic, and it made a difference.
- Can there be such a thing as being too close?
Can that actually... Because in your case it doesn't seem that way.
- Like stifling each other then. You see we're both mind people.
So to be apart, we don't have to physically be apart.
- Exactly. You have to say that.
- I just said it.
- Oh, alright.
- I just said it. Ding, dong, ding, dong. Next round.
- Right. But the point is this is an interesting example....
- Well they're all brought up to think that
you mustn't give a child too much love,
A couple mustn't be together too much.
It's good for the husband to be working in America while the wife's in Brazil.
We don't believe all that jazz.
That's just some social Christian jazz
that someone must have laid on us a few generations ago.
And you can't give a child too much love
and if you love somebody, you can't be with them enough.
There's no such thing. We don't want to be apart.
I have a horror that one day, I'm going to have seen every movie in America
and I'll have to go to some other country.
I just like TV. I think to me, it replaced the fireplace when I was a child.
They took the fire away and they put a TV in instead and I got hooked on it.
- You can see TV on many levels actually, many different levels.
- I was a great one as a kid for standing
and just looking out a window for hours and hours and hours.
Now the TV does that for me, except for the view changes immensely.
One minute it's the saint, the next it's a rocket, or Vietnam.
It's very surreal. I leave it in on whether I have the sound on or not.
- You don't have to go to India anymore.
You don't have to go anywhere. You can just be here.
- It's like Paul Kraston said,
"All I ask in life is a water bed, a TV and a typewriter."
Well, I'll just have an ordinary bed, a TV and a guitar.
Apart from Yoko.
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