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  • - I saw you at the -- at Guy's Party after the Oscars, and we spoke for a little while.

  • And I was congratulating you, because I am so proud of you for coming out, and I'm happy for you.

  • I know what a scary thing that is.

  • Your speech was incredible.

  • I just thought it was the most brilliantly written speech.

  • - Thanks.

  • - I want to show... I want to show a little tiny bit of it right now.

  • - Here I am, an actress.

  • Representing, at least in some sense, an industry that places crushing standard on all of us.

  • Standards that, I hate to admit, have affected me.

  • And I am here today because I am gay, and because

  • - I know how scary that is.

  • You still get emotional?

  • - Yeah. - Yeah.

  • I can see that you're emotional just watching that.

  • I was like that for a couple of years after I came out.

  • It's a scary thing to verbalize, to say it out loud.

  • How nervous were you?

  • - Uh, the most nervous I've ever been in my life, for sure.

  • I think my biggest fear of doing it was even just having a panic attack, quite frankly.

  • - Uu-huh.

  • - But, you know, I was just so ready to do it, and, quite frankly, so excited to do it, so it was a combination of just such thrill to finally be at that place in my life ...

  • where I was able to do that and grateful to have that moment, and grateful to you, because you did it in a time when it was much harder and much scarier.

  • So it's--

  • - It's, um--

  • It doesn't feel like it at the time, but it's a very selfish thing to do.

  • It really is just the most-- I mean, I can speak forever on it, but how do you feel since you've done it?

  • - You know, I knew I would be a happier person.

  • I knew that I was gonna feel better, and I did not anticipate just how happy I would feel.

  • And just every aspect of my life, just an ease and a comfort, and it's-- it's really been quite extraordinary to feel just the shift.

  • It was pretty much overnight too.

  • - Yeah, it is. Because you're releasing shame.

  • I mean, and anyone-- It doesn't matter what it is, what you're carrying around that's your secret.

  • Everyone has something that you're carrying around that you're ashamed of.

  • And to carry shame around is a--

  • First of all, it causes disease.

  • It's you just can't-- It's a horrible thing to be ashamed of yourself.

  • - Yes, it's toxic, and I think we talked about this a bit ...

  • where, you know, you think you're at a place where you're like,

  • "Oh, I'm happy to be gay."

  • "I'm so comfortable being gay."

  • "I love being gay."

  • And, honestly, It wasn't until making that choice and doing that where I realized, like, no.

  • I was carrying a tremendous amount of shame and guilt for not being out and felt isolated from the LGBT community.

  • And now I don't, so...

  • - Yeah, It's-- You know, I think you seem more relaxed, and I think there's something about just not having to worry about somebody catching you in a lie.

  • I know what that's like when you're on a show and you're just-- You just feel like you're waiting for someone to go, "You're gay!"

  • "I know you are!"

  • - Yeah, yes, absolutely.

  • It's so nice to just, you know, be at work and talk about an ex, or you know, get to wear what you want,

  • and not have a conversation about it and to feel like you're being yourself, and then connect with the people in the world.

  • You know, It's so nice to have people come up to me and tell me their story...

  • or, you know, say, "Hey, I'm closeted. Do you have advice?"

  • And, you know, those are really beautiful moments to get to share with people.

  • - Yeah, yeah, and to know that you're another face that someone has hope for,

  • 'cause there are a lot of teenagers out there--

  • Your talk about in your speech--

  • That are getting bullied every single day

  • or taking their own lives.

  • Because they're, you know-- They can't handle it.

  • And so it's a really cool thing.

- I saw you at the -- at Guy's Party after the Oscars, and we spoke for a little while.

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