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  • Set the stage with a few slides and some comments.

  • But, the main stage is gonna be with Brian.

  • When he comes up and

  • talks about how he built the airbnb culture.

  • So you're here you,

  • I've been following the presentations.

  • And so, now you know how to get started.

  • You've built a team.

  • You start to sort of build your product.

  • It's off the ground, it's growing.

  • People love it, you figured out how to do that.

  • You figured out how to create a very special one of

  • a kind company with monopoly powers that's big,

  • and the market that you're chasing after

  • is slightly bigger than the paper air plane business so

  • you're good, right?

  • So, now what?

  • So, we're here to submit that actually culture is

  • the thing that's gonna be very, very important for

  • you to be able to scale the business.

  • As well as your team.

  • And hopefully,

  • after this talk you'll be able to know what,

  • what is culture?

  • Why does it matter?

  • How to sort of create your core values and think about

  • elements that sort of fit together for a core values

  • in the culture that create a high performance team.

  • And get some best practices for the culture.

  • So, what is culture?

  • Anybody have a, wanna take a guess at what,

  • how one should define this?

  • >> A set of values >> Yeah, that's good.

  • Did you look that up on the,

  • because you had a computer and Internet connection.

  • Did you just look it up?

  • So these are some definitions, that,

  • you'll find, in, in Webster's dictionary.

  • And.

  • But that, that.

  • We're at Stanford.

  • This is kind of a trick question, it's a CS class.

  • Questions are never straightforward.

  • The real question is, what is company culture gonna be?

  • You know, culture that we can

  • generally talk about society.

  • About groups.

  • About places or things.

  • Here we're talking about company culture.

  • And so how do one define company culture?

  • We can take the previous definition and

  • modify it a little bit.

  • And so every, this is a hint of how we may want to

  • define company culture.

  • Everyday blank and blank of each member of

  • the team in pursuit of our company blank.

  • And some people have filled these in with different

  • sort of things.

  • A, the first blank could be assumptions,

  • beliefs, values.

  • My favorite is core values.

  • The second blank for the B blank.

  • People have said behaviors.

  • My favorite, sort of,

  • answer to that is real action, how do you act?

  • And in pursuit of goals, that's kind of weak.

  • in, in, in pursuit of big and

  • hairy audacious goals, that's a little stronger.

  • But a better definition is in pursuit of the mission.

  • So.

  • Now that, sort of, we have that definition,

  • what do we do with it and why does it matter?

  • This is a quote from Gandhi,

  • your beliefs become your thoughts.

  • Your thoughts become your words.

  • Your words become your actions.

  • And your actions become your habits.

  • And your habits become your values.

  • Your values become your destiny.

  • If you don't have a good culture in the company,

  • you can't pursue your destiny.

  • Why it matters is it, it becomes the first principles

  • that you sort of go back to when you make decisions.

  • It becomes a way to align people on values that

  • matter to the company.

  • It provides a certain level of

  • stability to fall back on and it provides a level of

  • trust that people can sort of trust each other with.

  • It also give you a list of

  • things that you should be able to.

  • Figure out what to do and what not to do and what

  • the more important thing about that is what not to do

  • And then finally the other thing that is important is

  • it allows you to retain the right employees.

  • There are people in this world that are not gonna be

  • a fit for your company but if you have good strong

  • culture and good strong core values you'll know who you

  • wanna retain and who you do not wanna retain.

  • And if you took the,

  • take the first words the first letter of those it

  • happens to help you move faster.

  • Another reason.

  • You're thinking that's like all mushy stuff.

  • This is actually more scientific stuff.

  • So here are indices for,

  • from 1997 to 2003 of stock market index of companies.

  • And the S&P 500 and the Russell 3000 and

  • then for the Fortune 100 best companies to work for.

  • They survey all these companies out there and

  • they've picked out companies that they

  • believe are the best companies to work for.

  • And, the returns, the stock market returns of

  • those companies happens to be 11.8%, 11.08%,

  • which is almost twice that of the other two indices.

  • And so, there's real power in companies that treat

  • their employees well, where there is a lot of trust,

  • where there is a lot of strong culture.

  • So, how do you sort of create a, a set of values,

  • and, and sort of define the culture et cetera.

  • I get asked that a lot.

  • You got to start with the leader of the company,

  • the founder.

  • And, so ask yourself, what are the personal values that

  • are most important to you?

  • What are those things that are most important to

  • the business?

  • Who are the types of people you like working with and

  • what are their values?

  • And, through that,

  • you sort of distill together what a set of values are.

  • And think about all the people that you've

  • never liked working with, what values they have.

  • Think about the opposite of that, and maybe those should

  • be considered values for, for your company.

  • And, finally, remember this,

  • the values have to support your mission.

  • And, if it doesn't support your mission,

  • you're missing something.

  • And, and then the last,

  • final chapter, they have to be credible and

  • they have to be uniquely tied to your mission.

  • So, at Zappos, in terms of uniquely applied to

  • the mission, we're focused on creating a culture that

  • was gonna provide great customer service.

  • So the first core value we had was to deliver.

  • While through service.

  • We're very specific that we want to

  • deliver great customer service.

  • And it was gonna be a wild experience.

  • And then, below that,

  • we want to sort of add a paragraph supporting that.

  • Talking about exactly what we mean by that.

  • We want it to support them, deliver while through

  • service, and support people, such as our employees,

  • our customers, and our brand partners, and our investors.

  • In terms of the opposite thing, we generally didn't

  • like working with arrogant people.

  • So, one of our core values that's that was,

  • was to be humble.

  • So those are two examples where we sort of

  • create a core values in a way that sort of, sort of,

  • became credible and uniquely tied to our mission.

  • So, you go through this process,

  • you come up with a few core values.

  • These might be some of them.

  • Whether it's honestly,

  • integrity, service, teamwork and they might be a list of,

  • you might start with three.

  • You might end up with a list of ten.

  • You might list, list of 30.

  • It's a good start.

  • And when Zappos went through this process we started with

  • like, we asked all the employees at the time,

  • what core values they wanna identify with,

  • we came up with 37.

  • We initially, we sort of whittled it down to

  • about ten.

  • And it took a year to do this.

  • That's a long time and you might wanna ask why.

  • Well, if you just come up with the word honesty,

  • I mean give me a break everybody wants

  • the culture to be honest.

  • Now you.

  • Nobody is going to say I want to be lied to everyday.

  • service.

  • What do you mean by service?

  • There's gotta be a lot more depth in this than that.

  • And nobody, everybody talks about teamwork.

  • But there's a difference in level of

  • team work that you see in a intramural sports team as

  • versus a baseball team.

  • And so how do you sort of dive deeper into team work.

  • What are the things that don't work on for a team?

  • A lot of it has to do with communications.

  • A lot of it has to

  • do with things that people have studied.

  • And you might want to go deeper into that.

  • At Zappos we thought about well there

  • are a lot of smart people in this room.

  • When they're fighting with each and

  • trying to figure out whose right and whose not.

  • It's probably not the best use of time.

  • And we want everybody to sort of riff off each other

  • and help each other make any idea better.

  • The result is that the company gets a better idea,

  • not that any individual person is right.

  • So we wanted to instill this idea that

  • it's company first,

  • then your department, then your team, then yourself.

  • And how do you do that?

  • Gonna go a, ano, a level a little deeper than that.

  • There's another,

  • there's a great sort of sort of element of

  • high performing teams that I really like which is this

  • pyramid that was created by Patrick Lencioni and

  • he wrote this book The Five Dysfunctions of a Team and

  • the reason this is interesting is he

  • talks about the breakdowns of a teams.

  • First of all if you don't.

  • A lot of teams break down because they don't have

  • any trust.

  • Then, even if you had trust, why do you need trust?

  • Well, then if you have trust you can actually have

  • debates and conflict and get to the right answer.

  • If you don't have conflict and debate, people are just,

  • it's the blind leading the blind.

  • How do you know you actually got to

  • the right answer before you sort of commit to something?

  • So, people are not actually willing to commit.

  • They're afraid of committing.

  • And so let's say you get to the next level and

  • you are actually able to commit.

  • Well what, what goes wrong then?

  • It's usually because people are not held accountable to

  • things that they committed to?

  • And if people are not held accountable to the things

  • that they've committed to, then they can't get results.

  • And I would submit to you,

  • if you think about the company as a black box,

  • and results, whether it's financial,

  • whether you produce a great product,

  • or anything like that as the output.

  • One of the major inputs is the culture of the company.

  • So some other best practices we're gonna actually talk

  • about during Q and A because I think this is gonna blend

  • into the conversation is that you want to incorporate

  • your mission to values we've talked about that.

  • Performance, you gotta think harder,

  • deeper, longer about your values than

  • you might initially think you need to do.

  • One of the things I think that a lot of

  • companies don't actually do is they interview for

  • a technical fit or skill fit or competency in that realm.

  • But they don't actually interview for

  • the culture fit, and

  • whether someone will actually believe and

  • follow the mission.

  • I think that's a big, big no-no.

  • Like I think you can have the smartest engineer in

  • the world but, if they don't believe in their mission.

  • They're not gonna put their, pour their heart and

  • soul into it.

  • And that's one of the things that where, if you actually

  • sorta start thinking about culture from the interview

  • process to performance reviews to making sure that

  • it's a daily habit, you'll get a lot further with

  • produ, with, making a great culture.

  • The finally point on making it, a daily habit, I think.

  • Culture, just like customer service or

  • fitness, is like mother had an apple pie.

  • Everybody wants to provide great customer service.

  • Every company wants to have a great culture.

  • What they fail to do is make it a daily habit.

  • You just can't be fit if your,

  • if you don't do it as a daily habit.

  • Eventually you get out of shape,

  • then you get fat, and then you're like, oh,

  • I got to go on a crash diet to sort of

  • get back into shape.

  • That doesn't quite work.

  • And the same is true with something like culture.

  • So I think we checked all of these off,

  • so we can go into Q and A with Brian.

  • >> All right. Cool.

  • >> Yeah, that's good.

  • >> All right. Hello, everybody.

  • It's quiet in here, I'll be honest.

  • Now it's better.

  • Now, I feel less on edge.

  • Nothing worst than a room full of people really,

  • really quiet, staring at you, but now I feel better.

  • >> I'd say it for five, ten minutes.

  • >> Yeah. >> You could bare for

  • a little longer.

  • So Brian.

  • Talk about how the process by which you came to

  • understand the culture was important.

  • >> So Airbnb and then building the company.

  • Yeah, so I think one of the things we realize is so

  • just to give you.

  • I won't tell the full story of

  • everyone being some you may know it, but.

  • The very short version of this story was that,

  • Airbnb wasn't meant to be, like,

  • the company we were trying to start.

  • I had quit my job,

  • I was complete, I was living in LA.

  • One day I drove to San Francisco,

  • became roommates with my, friend from college,

  • I went to Joe Gebia, and I had $1,000 in the bank.

  • And the rent was $1,150.

  • So that weekend this international design

  • conference was coming to San Francisco.

  • All the hotels were sold out.

  • We had this idea,

  • let's just turn our house into a bed and

  • breakfast for the conference.

  • I didn't have any beds.

  • Joe had three air beds.

  • We pulled them out of the closets.

  • We called it the air bed and breakfast.

  • That's how the company started.

  • I probably told that story 10,000 times, by the way.

  • Some version of that story.

  • And I didn't think I'd ever tell that a second time.

  • when, I, I remember growing up, I, I also went to

  • college, and my parents were social workers, and they had

  • kinda been nervous about me going to art school.

  • They kinda worried that maybe I would like not

  • get a job after college, which is I'm sure a lot of

  • parents are worried about, so she said, make sure you

  • promise you get a job with health insurance.

  • I ended up starting Air Bed and

  • Breakfast.com was the original name.

  • She remembered her telling me I

  • guess you never got that job with health insurance.

  • The reason I say this though is this.

  • Airbnb was never meant to be the big idea.

  • It was meant to be the thing to pay the rent so

  • we could think of the big idea.

  • And along the way by solving our own problem,.

  • It became the big idea.

  • So alongside that and, and I'm not gonna

  • talk about like kind of how he built the product.

  • That's probably another conversation that some other

  • people were talking about.

  • You have to build a team in a great company.

  • And in the early days, we had three co-founders, Joe,

  • Nate and myself.

  • And I kind of think of one of

  • the reasons we're successful was I was really lucky.

  • And I don't think I was really lucky because we

  • came up with the idea of Airbnb.

  • I don't think we're really lucky that we

  • became successful once we had the team.

  • I think we could have come up with a lot of ideas, and

  • been somewhat successful.

  • I think I was lucky cuz I found two great people that

  • I wanted to start a company with.

  • People I admired,

  • that almost intimidated me how talented,

  • how smart they were.

  • And I think that's one of the first things you got

  • to build a team that is so talented that they kind of

  • almost make you slightly uncomfortable because they

  • know by being with them you're going to have to

  • raise your game to be with them.

  • And then when we were working together in

  • the early days.

  • This is like 2008.

  • The first thing is we, we were like a family.

  • You think about founders.

  • Founders are like parents and the company is a child.

  • And a child will manifest in many ways behaviors that

  • parents have between their relationship.

  • If the parents are dysfunctional.

  • They're not working together.

  • Then the child's gonna be frankly pretty fucked up.

  • And so you don't want that.

  • You want your culture to be awesome.

  • And so Joanie and

  • I, we're like total, total family in the beginning.

  • We worked 18 hours a day, 7 days a week.

  • I remember when we're white commentator.

  • We like, worked together.

  • We like, ate food together.

  • We like, even went to the gym together.

  • We may as well have gotten jump suits.

  • We didn't go that far.

  • But we were like.

  • It was like we were on a mission.

  • I felt like we were like special forces or something.

  • And we had this like amazing shared way of doing things.

  • Amazing accountability.

  • And then we realized that was like the DNA of

  • the company.

  • And then, we started thinking at some point you

  • go from building the product to phase two.

  • Which is building the company that

  • builds the product.

  • And so a lot of the talk is about how do

  • you build a product, how do you get product market fit.

  • Once people start doing that now you've got to

  • build a company.

  • And it doesn't matter how great your

  • original product or idea is if you can't build

  • a great company then your product will not endure.

  • As we thought about this and one of the things he

  • realized is we want to build a company for the long term.

  • The last thing is that I want to build something,

  • I mean, think about it this way.

  • If, if your company like your child,

  • a parent wants his child to outlive him or her.

  • It would be a tragedy to outlive your child.

  • Also, I felt it would be a tragedy for

  • us to outlive our company and

  • just watch it rise and fall.

  • We didn't want that.

  • We wanted a company that would endure.

  • And so to do that, we started

  • noticing companies have something in common.

  • Companies that were around for

  • a really long time had a clear mission.

  • And they had a clear sense of values.

  • They had a shared way of doing something that was

  • unique to them and was really, really special.

  • And so, then, Joanie and I, when we were three people,

  • decided to look around companies.

  • I noticed Apple, you know,

  • Steve Jobs talked about his core value as that he

  • believed people with passion could change the world.

  • And he said our products change but

  • our value never had.

  • And we learned about Amazon.

  • We learned about Nike.

  • We learned about companies in early days.

  • You can even use this to talk about organizations you

  • know even like a founding of a,

  • a nation has a strong values and a declaration.

  • Then the country might endure longer.

  • As we started realizing like we need to have intention.

  • Culture needs to be designed.

  • And that's kinda how we got connected is because

  • you know, when we were funded by Sequoia.

  • Alfred Lin had just joined from Zappos Sequoia.

  • And I was told Zappos had an amazing culture and

  • we went to Las Vegas and met up with Tony and

  • we learned about it.

  • >> And so what did you learn.

  • >> Well.

  • >> You guys were crazy.

  • I, the, the thing we learned.

  • And we were three people with you need to have,

  • like, if culture's a shared way of doing things,

  • there's really two parts.

  • One is behaviors and those can kinda change, and

  • maybe 50 years from now there will be rituals and

  • behaviors that will change, be different.

  • But there has to be some things that never change.

  • Some principles,

  • some ideas that endure, that make you, you.

  • And I think of core values as integrity, honesty,

  • those aren't core values,

  • cuz they're values everyone should have.

  • They're, like, integrity values.

  • But would there have to be like three, five,

  • six things that are unique to you and

  • you can probably think about this in your life.

  • What is different about you than

  • every single other person.

  • If you could only tell somebody three or

  • four things, what do you want them to know about you?

  • And we realized that when Zappos has 100 employees,

  • they wrote down these nine core, is it nine?

  • >> Ten, ten. >> Ten, ten core values.

  • And the only thing I learned from Tony is you said I

  • wish I didn't wait until I was a 100 employees-

  • >> Yeah.

  • >> To write down our core values.

  • So I think I was talking to Sam he

  • says he thinks we're one of the only companies that

  • wrote our core values down before we hired anyone.

  • >> How long did it take you to hire a first employee?

  • >> So our first employee was our first engineer.

  • And I think we looked for him for four or five months.

  • And I probably interviewed,

  • I probably looked through thousands of people and

  • interviewed hundreds of people.

  • >> And by then, when you hired the pro,

  • when did you write it?

  • Did you write it? Did you write it

  • on day one or did you, was it month three?

  • >> I think we started working on it

  • around the time of like culminator,

  • which would have been January 2009.

  • And it was probably a process that evolved over

  • the course of six to seven months.

  • We finished Y Combinator in April 2009.

  • I think we hired our first engineer in July.

  • Something like that.

  • So it's probably like six months.

  • And the rea. Cuz some people ask, like,

  • why did you spend so

  • much time on, like, hiring your first engineer?

  • And here's how we thought about it.

  • I kinda felt like your first engineer was

  • like bringing in DNA to your company.

  • This person was gonna, like, there were gonna be a.

  • If we were successful,

  • there were gonna be 1,000 people just like him or

  • her in the company.

  • And so, it wasn't a matter of like,

  • getting somebody to build the next three features that

  • we needed to ship for our users.

  • There was something much more long-term and

  • much more enduring.

  • Which was, do I wanna work with a 100 or

  • a 1,000 more people like this?

  • Now you want diversity but

  • you don't want, you want diversity of like beliefs,

  • you want diversity of like backgrounds, age,.

  • You don't want diversity of values.

  • You want a very, very homogenous beliefs and

  • that's the one thing that shouldn't be diverse.

  • >> So what, what are Airbnb's values?

  • >> We have six core values.

  • I'll maybe talk about three of them.

  • >> Okay.

  • >> So our first core value that

  • we talk about is champion the mission.

  • And what it really means is that we want to

  • hire people that are here for a mission.

  • We don't want people here because they think we've got

  • a great valuation, they like our office design.

  • They need a job or they think it's hot.

  • We want people to be here for

  • the one thing that will never change, and

  • that's our mission.

  • And just to tell you a quick story about our mission.

  • You know, Airbnb, you know,

  • a lot of people describe it as a way to book a room or

  • book a house when you travel around the world.

  • And that's what we do.

  • But that's not at all why we do it.

  • And to answer the question of, like, what,

  • what our mission is, I'll just tell you a quick story.

  • And this, I think, describes it.

  • In early 2012, I met a host named Sebastian.

  • So we do these meet-ups around the world where you

  • meet with hosts.

  • And I meet this host named Sebastian.

  • He's probably, like, late 50s.

  • He lives in north London.

  • And Sebastian looks at me.

  • He says, Brian.

  • There's this word you never use in your website.

  • And I said, what's that word?

  • He said that word is friendship.

  • I would love to tell you the story about friendship.

  • I said, okay.

  • Tell me the story about friendship.

  • He said six months ago,

  • the run riots broke out in front of my home and

  • I was very scared.

  • And the next day my mom called my to

  • make sure I was okay.

  • He said yeah, mom.

  • I'm okay.

  • He said, what about the house?

  • And he says well yeah, the house is okay as well.

  • He said, here's the interesting thing.

  • Between the time the riots broke out.

  • And the time my mom called me,

  • was a 24 hour window of time.

  • And in that period of time he said,

  • seven of my previous Airbnb guests called me.

  • Just to make sure I was okay.

  • He said, think about that.

  • Seven of my guests called me before my own mother did.

  • I don't know what that says about our guests or

  • his mother more but-

  • >> But in this summer.

  • On a typical night or

  • a peak night we would have 425,000 people,

  • 25,000 people staying in homes and living together.

  • And they were coming from 195 countries in the world.

  • Which is every country but

  • North Korea, Iran, Syria and Cuba.

  • So when you hear that story,

  • at our core what we're about,

  • that's much more than just booking a room or traveling.

  • What we are about is we

  • wanna help bring the world together.

  • We wanna do that by giving a sense of

  • belonging anywhere you go.

  • So our mission is to belong anywhere.

  • So five years from now, 20 years from now, maybe we're

  • still selling rooms and homes but maybe we're not.

  • But I can guarantee you what we're always gonna be about.

  • It's a sense of belonging and bringing people together

  • and that's the more enduring idea.

  • So when we hire people the first thing we need to

  • make sure is if that's our mission you need to

  • champion that mission.

  • You champion the mission by living the mission.

  • Do you believe in it?

  • Do you have stories about it?

  • Have you used the product?

  • Would you bleed for the product?

  • I used to ask like, crazy questions like, one of the,

  • the cra-crazy question Sam reminds me of is I used to

  • interview people.

  • So, I interview the first 300 employees at

  • Airbnb which people think I'm like neurotic and

  • that may also be true.

  • But and I use to ask them a question.

  • Which I've now amended.

  • I use to ask them, if you had a year left to live,

  • would you take this job?

  • And actually, the people who say yes to that,

  • you probably don't want.

  • Cuz that's, like,

  • they should spend time with your family.

  • >> So I amended it to ten years.'

  • Cuz I feel like you should, you, whatever.

  • If you knew you had ten years left to live.

  • Whatever you want, you would do in those last ten years,

  • you should just do.

  • And, and I really wanted people to think about that.

  • That was enough time for, like,

  • you to do something you really cared about.

  • And the answer doesn't have to be this company.

  • I say, fine.

  • If the you're meant to do is to travel, or

  • if you're meant to do is start a company,

  • you should just do that.

  • Don't come here.

  • Go do that.

  • And so there's this old kind of parable probably many

  • of you heard of it.

  • About like two men are laying brick.

  • Somebody comes up to

  • the first man says what are you doing?

  • He says I'm building a wall.

  • He asks the other guy what are you doing?

  • He says I'm building a cathedral.

  • There's a job and then there's a calling.

  • And we want to

  • hire people that aren't just looking for jobs.

  • They're looking for a calling.

  • And that's, that's kinda the first value and

  • that's to champion the mission.

  • I'll just, maybe,

  • cuz I don't want to just take all the time up.

  • I'll, I'll talk about,

  • I'll talk about just one more, just so

  • we don't talk the whole thing up just about values.

  • The second value relates to being kinda creative and

  • frugal, and I'll tell you a story.

  • Our company was like.

  • By the way, all the founding stories in your company end

  • up becoming the things that people repeat and

  • talk about when you're a 1,000 people.

  • And it kinda embodies, right,

  • its kinda like your childhood.

  • These things kinda come back later in life.

  • Same thing with a company.

  • So Airbnb, I think Mark said in the last talk that was

  • like the worst idea that ever worked and.

  • It, it, it really probably was the worst idea, I mean,

  • people thought we were crazy.

  • I remember telling people about the idea.

  • And I remember actually telling Paul Graham,

  • we have this idea, in our interview,

  • we have this idea, it's called Airbnb.

  • He goes, people actually doing this?

  • I go, yeah.

  • His follow up question was, what's wrong with them?

  • So I knew the interview wasn't going well,

  • And in the, at the end of the interview, Paul Graham,

  • I think, wasn't going to accept us.

  • And, but we told him the story of

  • how we funded the company.

  • And here's how it goes.

  • We were introduced, Michael Siebel,

  • who I believe he's a partner of Y-Com.

  • To let people know, introduced me and

  • Joe to like 15 investors in the Valley,

  • including some of the ones that have been here.

  • And all of them like said no to the company.

  • They could have bought 10% of the company for

  • like 100, $150,000.

  • They all said no.

  • They thought it was a crazy idea.

  • No one would ever stay in someone's home.

  • So we ended up

  • just funding the company with credit cards.

  • And you know those binders pe,

  • kids use to put baseball cards in?

  • So we put credit cards in those.

  • >> Cuz we had to put them all somewhere.

  • That's how many credit cards we had.

  • And we were completely in debt.

  • And in the fall of 2008 we provided housing for

  • the Democratic and

  • Republican national convention and.

  • We had this weird crazy idea cuz we

  • weren't really selling a lot of homes.

  • So basically Airbnb launched and a year after we

  • launched I think we had a hundred people a day

  • visiting our website and we had like two bookings.

  • Which is generally bad.

  • It's kinda like releasing a song and a year

  • later like three people listen to it every day.

  • Like it's probably not going to be a very popular song.

  • So, but I believed in it and Joe and

  • Nate believed in it but And so

  • we were completely in debt, we don't know what to do.

  • And so we get this idea well we're air bed and breakfast,

  • we're providing housing for the Democratic and

  • Republican national conventions.

  • What if we made like a collectible breakfast cereal

  • for like the Democratic national convention.

  • And we came up with this Obama,

  • Barack Obama theme cereal.

  • We called it Obama-Os the breakfast of change.

  • And then we came up with a Republican theme, so for

  • John McCain, we found out he's a captain in the Navy,

  • so we came up with?

  • Captain McCain's.

  • A maverick in every bite.

  • And we had 0 dollars, and without any money,

  • we were able to, we tried to call, like, General Mills.

  • And they told us to, like, stop calling them, or

  • they're getting restraining orders, so that didn't work.

  • But we found a local alumni of RISD; he made 1,000 boxes

  • of cereal for us.

  • And we end up sending them to press, and eventually,

  • within a week, we got on national television,

  • national news.

  • We made $40,000 selling breakfast cereal.

  • And that, the year 2008,

  • we made $5,000 from our website, and

  • we made $40,000 selling the breakfast cereal.

  • And I remember my mom asking me,

  • so are you a cereal company now?

  • And that wasn't the bad part.

  • The bad part was the oddest answer.

  • Which was well, but the reason I tell that,

  • is our second core value is to be a serial entrepreneur.

  • I'm sorry for the cheesy pun.

  • I'm sorry.

  • But be a serentrepreneur.

  • And we really mean that we believe constraints bring

  • out creativity.

  • And when you raise like $800 million,

  • suddenly all that scrappiness.

  • It's easy to lose that scrappiness.

  • It's easier for people to tell you, you know,

  • I just need this like $50,000 contract or

  • I need this or I need that.

  • And whenever somebody just,is just being a little

  • bit not, like frugal and not being creative.

  • Or they tell me they can't do something,

  • I'll just take a box of cereal.

  • And, like,

  • even just a suggestion of Obama knows they need to

  • be scrappy and frugal.

  • And so again, a lot of the founding DNA of your company

  • becomes these values, these principles.

  • And so, everyone knows,

  • if you don't give a crap, you shouldn't be here.

  • And it doesn't mean you have to give a crap.

  • It just means you have to, to be here.

  • And you also have to be creative and

  • be like, kinda like an entrepreneur.

  • Super scrappy.

  • And these are some of the values we learn.

  • >> Cool.

  • So you guys should start,

  • start thinking about questions.

  • I'm gonna open up to questions from the audience.

  • But I have a few more questions for you.

  • >> Yeah. >> So,.

  • This all sounds nice.

  • The stories are great.

  • >> Yep.

  • >> People here are a pretty skeptical group.

  • >> Yep. >> It's

  • a CS Department class.

  • >> Yep. >> Probably left

  • brain focused.

  • >> Yep. >> Feels like

  • a softy kinda right brain focus.

  • >> I'm a total softy.

  • Sorry.

  • >> But how has having your strong culture helped you

  • make important tough decisions?

  • >> Well, I think that having a, so

  • here's the thing about culture.

  • There's three things they never tell you

  • about culture.

  • The first thing is they never tell you anything.

  • In other words, no one ever talks about culture, and

  • no one ever tells you you need to have strong culture.

  • And so, like there's tons of

  • articles about building a great product.

  • There's tons of articles about

  • like growth and adoption.

  • And there's very few things about culture.

  • It's this like mystical thing that's like kinda

  • soft and fuzzy.

  • That's the first problem.

  • The second problem is it's hard to measure.

  • And things that get,

  • are hard to measure often get discounted.

  • And these are like two really hard things.

  • But the third thing is the biggest problem.

  • The biggest problem of culture,

  • is it doesn't pay off in the short-term.

  • In fact, if you wanted to, in one year,

  • build a company and sell it as quickly as possible.

  • The number one piece of advice I give you is,

  • fuck up the culture.

  • Forget about it, just hire people quickly.

  • Culture makes you hire really slowly and

  • makes you be deliberate about decisions that in

  • the near term can slow progress.

  • It's kinda like putting an investment into

  • the company short-term.

  • And so, these are the things people never tell you.

  • So it, it's really about building a company for

  • the long-term and to endure.

  • Now, some of the things about culture.

  • The first thing is you need to

  • like be very clear about like.

  • What's unique to you, that you stand for?

  • Once you do that, you need to

  • make sure you hire people that believe in that.

  • And so we interviewed hundreds of people.

  • You need to make sure that you hire and

  • fire based on the ideas of these values.

  • And, and, you know?

  • One of the things we do is we

  • constantly repeat over and over again.

  • So we interview.

  • Like, when we interview,

  • we wanna make sure they're world class and

  • they fit the culture.

  • So, the first thing I used to ask people,

  • I had at the end of an interview sheet.

  • Is if you can hire.

  • This is a functional question.

  • If you can hire anybody in the world,

  • would you hire the person sitting accords from you.

  • And if our, our vision if become like the best of

  • what we do why dont we hire the very best in the world.

  • So, every single person is meant to

  • hire a person better than the previous people.

  • You're constantly hiring, raising the bar.

  • You're constantly hiring world class people.

  • Then we have separate people called core value people.

  • Who aren't in the function.

  • So if you're an engineer, the core values

  • engineers interviewers are never engineers.

  • Because we don't want them to be biased and

  • say, oh, I know how good they are.

  • And they interview just for values,

  • to make sure that people care about the same thing.

  • And we've said no to a lot of really great people.

  • Because we just didn't feel right about them being with

  • us long term.

  • So that's one of the things.

  • I also think that maybe some other

  • examples of when we kind of had hard decisions.

  • In mid 2011 we had this.

  • So we were mostly in the United States.

  • And we had this internet clone funded by these guys

  • called the Samwer brothers.

  • Has anyone heard about the Samwer brothers?

  • They basically, they clone.

  • Yeah Rocket Internet, they just went public.

  • And they basically copy American websites quickly,

  • and they try to sell it back to you.

  • And if you don't, then they just try to,

  • so it's kind of like putting a gun to your head.

  • And so, and they had basically done

  • this to Groupon.

  • Groupon at this point was

  • like the fastest growing company in the world ever.

  • First company to,

  • fastest company to a billion dollars in revenue.

  • And then they stopped doing Groupon.

  • This is when Groupon was on top of the world.

  • And they cloned us.

  • And we had 40 employees.

  • We had raised $7 million.

  • They cloned us, and they raised $90 million.

  • And, in 30 days, they hired 400 people.

  • And they wanted to sell the company and if they

  • couldn't, they were gonna destroy us around the world.

  • And the problem with

  • Airbnb is if we're not everywhere around the world.

  • Like, a travel site not being in Europe is like

  • your phone not having email, it doesn't actually work.

  • So we were kind of in trouble.

  • And we had this conversation and there was the pragmatic

  • decision of should we acquire them and

  • then there was the values decision.

  • The pragmatic one should've probably have said buy

  • them because you can't risk losing international.

  • So just guarantee you're gonna get international.

  • But we ended up not buying them.

  • And the reason we ended up not buying them is I

  • just didn't like the culture.

  • I didn't wanna bring in this 400 people.

  • I felt like we were missionaries and

  • they were mercenaries.

  • I didn't think they were doing it for the beliefs.

  • I thought they were doing it to make a lot of

  • money very quickly.

  • And I believe in a war on

  • missionaries would outlast and out-endure mercenaries.

  • And I also felt like the best

  • revenge against an Internet startup, Internet clone was

  • just to make them run the company long term.

  • It's like you have the baby, now you gotta raise it.

  • >> So.

  • >> That's what we ended up dong.

  • And that was a very controversial decision.

  • A lot of people are telling me,

  • you should buy this company.

  • We didn't.

  • And I think it worked out.

  • >> Let's see, the last part being how.

  • What percentage of revenue comes from Europe?

  • >> More than 50%.

  • >> I think it worked out.

  • >> Yeah.

  • >> All right, anybody have any questions?

  • I can keep going.

  • Yeah, so one other question, one other statement we had

  • at Zappos was that culture and

  • brand were two sides of the same coin.

  • >> Yes.

  • >> Airbnb has a great culture and

  • also a great brand.

  • You wanna talk a little bit about branding, since that's

  • actually a kind of a weak thing in Silicon Valley.

  • We don't tend to focus on this, on culture and brand.

  • >> Yeah. Yeah, that's what

  • I actually just said that to Sam Altman.

  • I think Silicon Valley is

  • not historically really strong, or

  • we don't talk about culture and brand very much.

  • They are two sides of the same coin.

  • So cultural like the principles and the beliefs

  • you have inside the company that you want people to be

  • aligned with long term.

  • And whatever happens inside

  • the company eventually comes out.

  • You can't hold it in.

  • And brand is really the promise outside the company

  • that everyone identifies with.

  • And so I think, having a clear mission, and

  • making sure that you know that mission, and

  • making sure that mission comes through the company is

  • probably the most important thing you can do for

  • both culture and values.

  • And then, the second thing you need to know is

  • that your brand, the way people think about you

  • as a company, is often decided by your, you know,

  • your brand evangelists are your employees.

  • And so you have a weak culture.

  • And we often think that companies that hire

  • employees or people that are deeply passionate,

  • create companies that customers are really,

  • really passionate about.

  • And those are the companies that have strong brands.

  • And so, Zappos had a really strong brand because they

  • have strong culture.

  • And a lot of companies,

  • Google, they care deeply about the culture.

  • They actually have a question,

  • is this person googly?

  • And it's meant to be like, a catchall for

  • do they fit the Google culture.

  • Google's a very strong culture.

  • It's unique to Google.

  • And, by the way, there's no such thing as a good or

  • bad culture.

  • It's either a strong or weak culture.

  • And a good culture for

  • somebody else may not be a good culture for you.

  • So, I think brand is

  • incredibly important as well.

  • And brand is really the connection of you with your

  • customers.

  • And so, if you have an incredibly strong

  • culture that can be a whole talk and brand.

  • But if you have a fairly strong culture,

  • then the brand will come through.

  • The final thing to say about brand is,

  • a lot of people when they talk about their brand,

  • they talk about what they sell.

  • So if you're Apple, one way of doing it is to say,

  • we sell computers.

  • And like, our new screens are larger and it's faster.

  • And they talk about bits and bytes.

  • And I remember Steve Jobs had this really important

  • talk where he says the way to win, this is 1997 when he

  • first came back, wasn't to talk about bits and bytes.

  • The way to win is to talk about what we value.

  • And our core value is we believe people with

  • passion can change the world.

  • And that was how we

  • introduced the Think Different campaign.

  • And so Apple before they had this huge renaissance, which

  • became the most valuable company in the world.

  • They did the Think Different campaign,

  • which is basically saying, this is what we believe in.

  • And if you buy an Apple computer,

  • you're also saying, I believe in this, too.

  • And there would have to be,

  • I think, a deeper core belief and

  • if that doesn't happen, you're a utility.

  • And the utilities get sold at commodity prices.

  • >> Go ahead.

  • >> How did you know how to communicate this idea?

  • >> How?

  • The question is how do you know how to communicate this

  • to the company?

  • The culture or the core values.

  • >> To the employees.

  • To the outside world.

  • >> The culture?

  • The values.

  • The brand?

  • >> How to communicate what Airbnb does

  • >> Well, so

  • the question is how do

  • we communicate what Airbnb does early in the days?

  • Well, we learned a lot because in the early days,

  • we communicate like a utility.

  • We actually said Airbnb is a cheap,

  • affordable alternative to hotels.

  • And we had a tagline of forget hotels,

  • save money with Airbnb.

  • And over time we felt like that was,

  • I mean this was in really early days.

  • And we felt like that was way too limiting.

  • That undercut the idea.

  • And so, we then eventually changed our tag line to

  • travel like a human.

  • Which we haven't kept.

  • But it was basically meant to say that we believe in

  • a certain kind of world and

  • we really feel like travel is mass produced.

  • You feel isolated, you feel like a stranger.

  • And we want to bring the world back to the place

  • where it's a little bit like a village again.

  • Where the service is coming from other people.

  • You have this feeling like you belong and

  • you're actually treated like a human.

  • You know, no matter how successful you are in life,

  • often travelling will remind you,

  • you're not that successful.

  • Go through TSA, stay in a typical hotel.

  • Sometimes you'll have some problems.

  • And so we really want to make people feel special.

  • And this was kind of some of the stuff we did in

  • the early days and we did a lot of storytelling.

  • I mean, I probably told the story of

  • Airbnb like 10,000 times.

  • And this is something that's kind of related to culture.

  • But one, somebody asked me

  • the other day like what's the job of the CEO.

  • And there's a number of things a CEO does.

  • But what you mostly do is articulate the vision.

  • So you articulate the vision,

  • you gotta develop a strategy and

  • you gotta hire people to fit the culture.

  • If you do those three things you

  • basically have a company.

  • And that company will hopefully be successful.

  • If you have the right vision,

  • the right strategy and good people.

  • So what we end up doing is

  • articulating the vision over and over and over again.

  • Whether you're hiring people or

  • recruiting them, talking to investors to raise money,

  • doing PR interviews, if you're speaking at a class.

  • You're always reinforcing the values.

  • You're doing it in email to a customer.

  • And so you just do it thousands of times.

  • And if you do something thousands of

  • times it will change and get better every time.

  • So it's just kind of, evolved.

  • >> Yeah, question. >> So

  • you are interacting with the host,

  • somehow you're in charge of the host and

  • reinforcing the parts of Airbnb?

  • >> Very, very good question.

  • How do we make sure

  • the hosts are reinforcing the culture of Airbnb?

  • So when, the answer to that is, we do a pretty good

  • job but not yet an amazing job at it.

  • When we first started Airbnb,

  • I kinda took the Craig Newmark school of thought.

  • Craig Newmark's the founder of Craigslist.

  • And I said, anybody should be able to use Airbnb.

  • You didn't have to apply.

  • If you wanted to rent your place,

  • you could rent your place.

  • And it turned out that many of

  • the people believed in our values because we

  • talked about it and we tracked them.

  • But there were people who rented on Airbnb not

  • because they believed in values, but because they

  • realized they can make a lot of money renting their home.

  • And not everyone really was a great culture fit.

  • And these people actually did cause us a lot of

  • problems.

  • So, that was actually a bit of a lesson for me.

  • And I didn't think our host had to,

  • it didn't really occur to me in the early days.

  • The host had to completely fit the values,

  • that we met them, we attract people like us.

  • And so, over time, we've realized host or partners,

  • and so they need to believe in the same values we do.

  • And so now we have a program called the Superhost

  • program where they have to demonstrate values to

  • reach this kind of badge, which gets them kind

  • of priority customer support and distribution.

  • We are having this host convention where you

  • bring all the hosts in.

  • We're gonna be talking about and reinforcing the values.

  • We're moving towards the place where they have to

  • apply to list.

  • And we don't test them the way we test an employee but

  • we're starting to get more rigorous about it.

  • So the answer is, the answer is we were really late but

  • we now do it by gradually moving towards apply to list

  • and reinforcing it every step of the way.

  • >> Go ahead.

  • >> When Airbnb has made some great contributions to

  • the open source community.

  • Do you have any thoughts on how that contributes to

  • the culture of your development team?

  • >> Yeah.

  • I think, just in general, and

  • it may be related to two things about Airbnb.

  • We tend to be a pretty open culture, just in general.

  • We communicate a lot.

  • And we generally believe in the idea of like,

  • a shared world where people are giving back and

  • contributing, making communities and

  • industries stronger.

  • So, just my one philosophy on communication is,

  • we basically communicate and

  • talk about everything internally except for things

  • that relate to employee or customer privacy.

  • So, if it doesn't relate to those two things,

  • we'll basically talk about it.

  • As far as open source culture and

  • engineering, we wanted to make sure that we

  • had a really strong identification of the team.

  • And so we really felt like a lot of source codes

  • shouldn't be,

  • you know, we felt like every company needs a moat.

  • Some kind of

  • moat that protects you from your competition.

  • We thought some technology would be, but

  • we also felt like we wanted to be

  • able to get back from a technology standpoint.

  • And we preferred our moat to be that we provide the very

  • best experience in the world when you use Airbnb.

  • We have the biggest network effects.

  • And we thought that kind of took precedent over

  • having certain technology that only we could use.

  • And so we decided to try to share some of

  • that out to people.

  • And I think, again, it does relate to the values.

  • Now one other thing is I never one day recommended.

  • Hopefully, if you have a strong culture,

  • I didn't recommend we do any of that.

  • We hired engineers that we felt like fit the values.

  • And it just independently occurred to

  • them they should do that.

  • They felt like that was the right thing to do.

  • >> All the way in the back.

  • >> You talked about how during the conventions you

  • didn't have any money and

  • only a couple people visited your site.

  • What did you do to increase the number of

  • users that came to your site?

  • How did you scale that out?

  • >> So the question was, Brian had talked about

  • that there weren't that many visitors to the site

  • when they were trying to sort of get off the ground.

  • How did they get users to the site?

  • >> So this is actually not about culture but

  • I will answer it anyway.

  • So, you know a lot of people,

  • this is not even a culture question, but the best

  • advice I ever got was probably from Paul Graham.

  • And Paul Graham basically said,

  • I remember he had this line.

  • He said it's better, he may have even talked about this

  • at a talk, he said it's better to have 100 people

  • that love you than to have a million people that just

  • kinda sorta like you.

  • It's literally better to have 100 people love you.

  • And the reason why, if you have a million costumers or

  • a million users and

  • they just kinda don't care about you but

  • they kinda use your app and you're okay.

  • To get them to care is a really, really hard thing.

  • In fact, I don't know how to get a million people to

  • all of a sudden care.

  • What I do know is if you get 100 people that love you,

  • those people if they feel incredibly passionate,

  • each of them will tell 100 people.

  • And in fact all movements typically start, or

  • companies or ideas that are really powerful,

  • start with just 100 people.

  • So the reason this is so

  • critical is he gave us another lesson.

  • Which is if all you need to do

  • is get 100 people to love you.

  • Then what you need to do is things that don't scale.

  • So it's hard if you have a million people you

  • can't meet all of them.

  • But you can meet 100 people.

  • You can spend time with them.

  • So that's exactly what we did.

  • Joanie and I,

  • we would go door to door in New York City or in Denver

  • where the Democratic National Convention was.

  • Literally meeting with, staying with and

  • living with our users.

  • I use to joke that when you buy an iPhone Steve Jobs

  • didn't come and sleep on your couch but I did.

  • And that, that was really critical,

  • living with your users.

  • And by living with our users and spending time with them,

  • all we had to do is give them enough time, attention.

  • And get them to get to

  • the point where they were deeply passionate.

  • And if you work backwards from 100 people or

  • even one person.

  • Without even technology,

  • imagine what would be an amazing experience for

  • just this one person.

  • And walk through the journey from the time they,

  • whatever your service is, right?

  • And make it perfect for that one person.

  • Once you make a service perfect for

  • one person, it's actually really easy to

  • make almost anything perfect for a person.

  • It's not actually that hard.

  • The hard thing is then how do we scale this to

  • millions of people.

  • Where everyone gets in trouble is they try to

  • solve both at the same time.

  • So, the first thing we

  • do is get the perfect experience for one person.

  • We went door-to-door to do this,

  • we won over their love.

  • Then we use a separate part of our brain to imagine,

  • now how would we achieve that at scale?

  • And I'll give you one example before I

  • stop talking about this.

  • Right now on Airbnb you can,

  • if you put your home on Airbnb,

  • you can click a button and it kinda works like UBER.

  • And we did this before UBER,

  • a professional photographer comes to your house and

  • they'll photograph your homes for free.

  • We have 5000 photographers around the world, and

  • we photographed hundreds of thousands of homes.

  • So it's probably one of the largest on-demand

  • photography networks, if there was such a thing,

  • I guess probably the only one in the world.

  • And that started with Joe and I.

  • We were living, we were staying not living,

  • staying with this one host in New York City.

  • And her house is amazing, but

  • her photos were terrible.

  • And we said, why don't you just put up better photos?

  • And this is before, you know,

  • iPhones had great cameras, this was 2008.

  • And she said, well,

  • I can't figure out how to get photos from this camera,

  • onto this computer.

  • She wasn't very technically savvy.

  • And we just said well, we'll just take photos for you.

  • Or actually I said, what if you can press a button and

  • somebody just showed up at your door and

  • took professional photographs.

  • She said, that would be magic.

  • So next day, I knocked on her door and said I'm here.

  • And I photographed her home.

  • And then we sent emails to people saying,

  • we have this new magical photography service.

  • And if you want you can press this button and

  • a professional photographer will show up at your home.

  • Somewhere just press this button and

  • just send me an alert or Joe an alert.

  • And we'd rent a camera in Brooklyn.

  • In January of 2009 walking through snow,

  • photographing people's homes.

  • We did this by hand without any technology.

  • We managed it with just spreadsheets.

  • I wasn't gonna burden Nate with trying to

  • build something we designed before we had photography.

  • Then we started hiring contract photographers.

  • Then eventually we

  • got a intern to manage all the contract photographers.

  • Then we got a intern to become

  • a full-time employee managing other interns to

  • manage the contract employees.

  • >> And at some point, this is before we built anything.

  • And at some point there were too many,

  • like people to manage.

  • Like, there were like hundreds of photographers.

  • And then we finally built all of

  • the tools to manage all the photography.

  • But we did it only after we knew exactly what

  • the perfect service was.

  • >> How about one more question?

  • >> One more question.

  • >> So a lot of people say that when,

  • when the hardest part isn't the technology.

  • Here the marketing,

  • the communication is the hardest part there would be.

  • And a lot of people say it's not

  • the technology >> So

  • do you wanna repeat the question?

  • >> So the question is a lot of peop in this particular

  • situation with Airbnb, a lot of people think that this is

  • not necessarily a technology company, but

  • it's more of a marketing company.

  • >> Good question.

  • So I'll, well, I'll tell you,

  • I'll answer the question with a story.

  • >> Okay, let me, let me, let me, let me just,

  • let me preface that question by a set of questions.

  • Do you have, do you today have proprietary technology?

  • >> Yes.

  • >> Do you have a moat?

  • >> Yes.

  • >> Do you have network effects?

  • >> Yes.

  • >> Do you have pricing power?

  • >> Yes.

  • >> Do you have a good brand?

  • >> I think so.

  • >> Are are you a monopoly?

  • >> I'm not gonna answer that.

  • >> But, but I think similar to the question

  • just forgetting about all of that.

  • It, companies that have network affects and

  • sort of get off the ground based on.

  • >> Yeah. >> The fly wheel is going.

  • >> Yep. >> People just think that

  • you're lucky.

  • >> Yeah, let me, let me.

  • It's a totally fair question.

  • And people have said it.

  • So, I wanna answer it.

  • You guy that runs the Sequoia Capital now,

  • his name is Doug Leoni.

  • >> Yep.

  • >> One day, I think it was a year, year and

  • a half ago, Doug Leoni says, your job sucks.

  • >> And I was like, what the hell does that mean?

  • Like this is like,

  • you've got the worst job of an CEO in my portfolio.

  • And I said, tell me why.

  • And this is what he said.

  • He says, well, let me, here's how I think about it.

  • First of all, you're a technology company.

  • And he thought we were a technology company and

  • I would say, at our heart,

  • in many ways we are a technology company.

  • And so, we have all the challenges of all my

  • other portfolio companies.

  • But beyond that, you are in 190 countries.

  • And so, you have to figure out how to be international.

  • We have to hire people in

  • countries all over the world.

  • We're literally in every country but

  • North Korea, Rio, Syria, and Cuba.

  • You're a, basically a payments company.

  • We handle billions of

  • dollars through our system every year.

  • And we had to get

  • money transmitter licenses in the state of California.

  • So we actually are a payments company, and

  • we have serious fraud and risk to, to, to warrant, and

  • needs to be locked down like Fort Knox.

  • He said, that's, that's usually where companies end.

  • But you've gotta worry about all the other crap.

  • And he says, trust in safety.

  • You know we have 425,000 people staying in

  • other people's, under, in other people's beds,

  • in their sheets.

  • >> Think about a woman from Texas staying in

  • the Middle East or vice versa.

  • The cultural conflicts that could happen and

  • misunderstandings and,

  • you know, you have 425,000 people a night.

  • It's like being the mayor of Oakland.

  • Now, imagine if you're the mayor of Oakland,

  • all these things happen in Oakland tonight.

  • >> So you've got trust in safety.

  • Now, we have regulatory problems.

  • You know, we are in 34,000 cities.

  • Every city has a different law, different rules.

  • And many of them were written in a different

  • century, before you had any of this technology.

  • So you've got to deal with that.

  • Then you've got issues like search and discovery.

  • So, Google's got this brand about being really

  • important about search.

  • The thing about search,

  • though, is usually if I have a question, if Google can

  • give me 40,000 results, but it's probably clear that

  • there's like one or two best options for everybody.

  • So if I wanna know a question to an answer,

  • these are usually my best answer.

  • We have 40,000 homes in Paris.

  • There is no best home in Paris for

  • anybody in this room.

  • So we have to be really,

  • really great at matching people and technology.

  • We have to be a company that's just, you know,

  • another example.

  • Facebook, for example, is a digital product.

  • Their product is their website.

  • Our product are these experiences you

  • have in the real world.

  • So, we're not just an online product.

  • We have to be an offline product.

  • And we need to transition from when you're in

  • your app, through cities.

  • And these are just some of the examples why technology,

  • design.

  • So basically, the long and

  • short of it is we have to be world class at technology.

  • We have to be world class at design.

  • We have to be world class at branding, because we've got

  • to convince people this isn't crazy.

  • You're not gonna die when you use it.

  • We had to convince governments,

  • this is good for neighborhood.

  • What happens if the internet moves into

  • your neighborhood?

  • That's what people call it.

  • It's a good thing, hopefully.

  • And you've got to make sure trust in safety is really

  • world class, that we handle all these payments and

  • not have problems with risk.

  • And I can kind of go through, and

  • this is not even to do with culture.

  • I didn't even mention culture.

  • So, that's how I describe it is like,

  • I think great companies are companies that are probably

  • really strong at everything.

  • But you know, we have,

  • we try to hire the very best engineers and

  • technical talent in the world and

  • I definitely don't see us as a marketing company.

  • >> Thank you.

  • >> Thank you. >> Thank you, guys.

  • >> All right, thank you sir.

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