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In midterms, you keep waiting for the rise of the establishment which you refer to,
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and you do have these people who, in the pack behind those two guys in the establishment lane,
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who look as if maybe they're ready finally to go somewhere,
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Chris Christie seems to have found his voice in the last couple of weeks.
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Jeb Bush, you got to figure that the most well known and the most well-financed candidate is eventually going to have a moment,
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maybe that starts with the debate here this week, and Marco Rubio is maybe poised to explode,
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so it feels as if there's bubbling just beneath the surface.
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It definitely feels that way, and I think that this debate may create become that juncture in the campaign,
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largely because of the content of the debate, and we're going to be discussing the economy and jobs and taxes,
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and if you look at the prior debates, when the conversation went into policy deep, Trump didn't do very well.
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Yeah.
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And Ben Carson didn't do very well, and the guys who have records, who know how to answer these questions
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that have, you know, built their careers, steeped in this debate, they do quite well.
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And so, if the debate conversation stays in those areas,
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I think it is an opportunity for one of the more experienced candidates to get a lift.
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Yeah, I do think we're going to have policy heavy, this Tuesday night,
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I think I can promise people that.
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Yes, and I'm looking for Rubio to really have his moment of the top four candidates,
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and I say four because there're four in double digits: Carson, Trump, Rubio and Cruz.
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Rubio was the one who we've seen, as Jeanne was saying in prior debates,
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putting out substance, he's the one who says, "look, the next president has to deal with the fact that the largest
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retailer in this country, Amazon, has no brick-and-mortar stores, is entirely online.
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How do we develop a workforce that can deal with that kind of world?"
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He talks about education, locational education, access to higher education, in a way that you don't hear a lot of from the other candidates.
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In a debate like we're going to have Tuesday night, those, that policy could really rise and fill the room.
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Well, let's talk a little bit about what the other candidates need to do, Jeanne, as we head into this debate.
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It seems to me that Ben Carson and this goes back to comments we've been making along the way,
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Ben Carson needs to show that he has some substance here.
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I think it's been policy light for him, this is not going to be an environment where he can get away with that necessarily.
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Yes, and they, he and Donald Trump keep promising things are coming, but if you look at the last debate,
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Ben Carson, struggled to answer a question about his own tax plan.
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He barely got to the end of that sentence, so we got to see if he has,
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you know, boned up and built out what his policy proposals are going to be.
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Because as I said, up against the more experienced guys, Carson and Trump don't do well with these conversations.