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  • What makes a nerd a nerd and not a geek and a geek a geek and not a nerd?

  • Let’s talk about that.

  • Good mythical morning!

  • Alright, yesterday we released a new music video on our main channel.

  • It’s called epic rap battle: nerd vs geek.

  • Thank you for checking that out, for commenting, for sharing that amongst all of your peoples,

  • especially if theyre interested in the worlds of nerdem and geekdem,

  • which as weve discovered in the research of the writing of the song and producing of the music video

  • are two distinct worlds which cozy up to one another.

  • Perhaps they overlap in some areas.

  • There’s quite a bit of crossover.

  • Well, let’s give you a little background first.

  • So this video was sponsored by tigerdirect.

  • Thanks to tigerdirect for letting us shoot in the store and giving us the stuff that we used in the video.

  • In Miami!

  • But the original concept that we talked about was the epic rap battle of nerdiness.

  • Cuz you know, we have the original epic rap battle, we have the epic rap battle of manliness

  • and then were like let’s do epic rap battle of nerdiness.

  • And then in the very early stages in developing the idea,

  • we started doing some research on like what makes you nerdy

  • and all of a sudden we saw these different articles about geek versus nerd and were like,

  • Oh! That’s even better cuz now there’s a battle between the geek and the nerd.

  • Well, I mean yeah, once it occurred to us that there was more of a story there

  • and the two characters being different and not being nerds kind of thing,

  • it made it more interesting.

  • I mean I certainly had a point of reference that nerds and geeks aren’t the same thing.

  • I know that. – Yeah I wasn’t saying that.

  • It seemed like a better thing to have a rap battle about.

  • Wasn’t that who’s more nerdy but the geek versus nerd that caught me.

  • But what I didn’t understand was how intricately you could parse the differences between the two.

  • And I’m using words like parse in order to be a little bit more nerdynot really.

  • Or is it geeky?

  • Oh, is it?

  • A guy named, this is the dude’s name, Ber Settles

  • Which is alsoyes he does- also a sentences. It’s also a sentence.

  • Ber you should never settle man. Don’t settle.

  • This guy’s a nerd.

  • Unless its your last name then just own it.

  • This guy’s a nerd, I think, because he developed, he actually went in and did this global search of twitter.

  • And saw how often certain subjects were associated with the word geek or the word nerd

  • And then he created a graph that has a bunch of words on there that well put on here

  • That shows, it’s basically a function you know, of things that becomes more geeky or things becoming more nerdy

  • on this scale and then whether or not things are nerdy or geeky.

  • And I think .. – Now first of all, I will say the fact that someone went through all this trouble, like you said

  • I’m pretty sure that makes him a nerd especially because the presentation of the chart,

  • it doesn’t look cool graphically.

  • That would be something that a geek would do.

  • A nerd would parse all this data and figure out how to segment it and compile it and all this type of stuff

  • that you do with data but then a geek would be the one who would make it cool looking.

  • And this one looks very nerdy, and it’s like illegible as you get into the more geeky,

  • maybe because he’s a nerd he’s like ‘I don’t care how geeky it getsthat’s when you can’t read it anymore.

  • Here’s what I want to do. Because we did some research and I know you have looked at this - right.

  • But I want to see if this stuff is still with you.

  • I’m just gonna name some of these things that are right along this line

  • whether it’s geek or nerd and I want you to tell me whether this is a geeky thing or a nerdy thing.

  • Well, start further out first. Okay further out.

  • Cellist.

  • Someone who plays the cello.

  • That’s a nerd. Now that’s interesting because I’ve never heard of the term band nerd

  • But I’ve heard of the term band-geek.

  • But when I think of someone who plays the cello,

  • I picture a nerd.

  • Well yeah, I mean youre right. This is the nerdiest thing on the scale

  • Again, this is so difficult because band geek.

  • What do they play?

  • They play brass?

  • Yeah yeah if I said tuba, you would go with geek. I don’t know.

  • No I wouldn’t.

  • I’m just, look listen, I’m just, I’m the messenger here.

  • Okay. What else?

  • Web comic.

  • Geek.

  • Of course. Here’s .. here’s something a little

  • Let’s go with genius.

  • Nerd.

  • Nerds, nerds are you know, they are typically very much centered at being smart.

  • Geeks are kind of, theyre smart but they have social sense

  • or theyre more socially aware maybe to a fault.

  • Microsoft.

  • Geek.

  • How did you know that? Because typically mac is the geek.

  • Oh, actually I meant to say nerd.

  • Well youre wrong. Microsoft is on the line but he has itit’s on the line- but he has it on the geek side

  • But it’s on the line, so that’s in the overlap.

  • Vegetables

  • What? I…

  • Like I mean foodies I think, you can be a foodie geek.

  • So I would say geek.

  • Vegetables are nerdy. I don’t know why.

  • Awkward. – There’s a grey area.

  • Awkward I would say more nerd. Definitely.

  • Zombies.

  • Geek. Anything more pop culture-y I consider it being more geeky.

  • Doctor Who.

  • Geek. Cuz it’s pop culture..

  • Zelta.

  • Still geek.

  • Nope, he got Zelda as nerd and he has The Hobbit as the nerd

  • which, incidentally, we had the geek in our rap battle become Gandalf.

  • Because, it’s so right on the line,

  • Because we thought that you know, a guy who’s…

  • I don’t consider myself to be smart enough to be a nerd,

  • I respect nerds because theyre smart.

  • I’m just not smart enough. I can’t achieve nerdem

  • and I’m a big fan of Lord of the Rings.

  • So I think that, I mean, I don’t know if I’m a geek,

  • I’m just, you know, I’m just an everyday man. I’m out

  • Youre a hipster.

  • I think that the,

  • I think that the fact that there are some YouTube channels, we talked about this a little bit in our research too

  • that told this line, illustrates how much of a line this is.

  • Youve got Geek & Sundry, Felicia Day.

  • Which that makes sense, it’s like board games, pop culture type stuff that’s very much in geekdem. 

  • But then you got the nerdist channel, which is Chris Hardwick.

  • And when I think of Chris Hardwick, and the nerdist network,

  • I think of geek stuff, I don’t think of nerd.

  • Cuz he’s a cool guy. – I thinkThe guy, he knows how to dress.

  • Still very much pop culture, I would say definitely nerdist is geek,

  • They shouldve been called geekist, not nerdist, but I think they call themselves nerdist

  • because there were socially aware enough to know that if I called us nerdist,

  • It’s so uncool it becomes cool again.

  • So, as a socially aware geek, I’m gonna call us nerdist because it’s a better title.

  • which is why I think that your character clearly won the rap battle.

  • I think, and I’m totally comfortable admitting that.

  • Well we collectively wrote the whole rap, it’s not like.. – Right!

  • We only wrote our parts.

  • But I’m comfortable with saying your character won because it’s so much easier to pull for the nerd,

  • And there’s so much irony in the nerd rapping versus the geek ..

  • Cuz they own it. – Yeah.

  • A geek might tend to be so socially aware that it’s… you know it’s…

  • just kinda not being totally honest.

  • Now, here’s a nerd.

  • Hank Green. Hank Green is a bonified nerd.

  • And he knows it. - Yeah.

  • He’s super smart, like legitimately smart about all the things that he speaks to.

  • It doesn’t just a guy that’s just really into things, it’s a guy who totally knows what he’s talks about it

  • and its appropriate the nerd fighters are the people who are fans of the bloggers, actual nerds.

  • And, so we appreciate you guys sharing in the comments what are your thoughts.

  • You know, this is an open ended discussion in a grey area.

  • I know we may have entered a hornet’s nest with this one.

  • But we don’t wanna turn anybody against us, we love nerds, we love geeks,

  • and if you like the song, we wanna make the instrumental version available.

  • Were gonna do a contest, a little community building exercise, if you wanna take that,

  • and do a cover of Epic Rap Battle: Nerd vs. Geek you can do that.

  • And you can share it, make a YouTube video but then share it with us on the Rhett Link Kommunity,

  • We got a link down there in the description on how you can get to that.

  • And then your deadline is Sunday, October 27th.

  • You make your cover video and the best one is going to win a mythical prize pack

  • consisting of Mythical Show t-shirt, a Mythical Show signed poster

  • And an up to this point CD.

  • Our CD with 27 songs on it.

  • So take part in the instrumental Epic Rap Battle.- Don’t just do it for the prize though,

  • Do it to have some fun, you know? Fun it up over there in the Rhett Link Kommunity. .

  • You know what time it is.

  • This is Rob, and Thelia, and were coming at you from Saskatchewan, Canada.

  • And, it’s time to spin the wheel of mythicality.

  • If you don’t want to participate in the community building exercise and you just wanna buy this stuff,

  • It’s all available over at rhettandlink,com/store

  • You’d appreciate that. – All of these are signed, or just participate in the contest and buy something.

  • Let’s end this episode.

  • Rhett is shrinking and Link is growing.

  • Oh that’s starting to feel kinda weird man.

  • What? What’s happening. My shoulders

  • I’m getting taller, I’m getting bigger

  • Look at me. I’m growing.

  • I’m not moving closer to the camera I’m just getting larger.

  • This is not an illusion this is really me getting larger.

  • This is as small as I can get, if I got any smaller, I would disappear.

  • This is the noise I make when I’m getting larger.

  • You still have the mic on? Can I spin the globe? - Sure

  • And wherever it lands, we will make a music video before we die, in the location it lands.

  • Okay.

What makes a nerd a nerd and not a geek and a geek a geek and not a nerd?

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