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And in a second we'll be speaking to Gary o' Donoghue about the.

This huge dump of files that emerged late yesterday from Jeffrey Epstein.

Three million pages of documents and 180,000 images.

And we should say, as we record just before 2 o' clock on Saturday, that there are still journalists on both sides of the Atlantic, probably right around the world, beavering away looking through of these documents.

So we do not yet have a complete page picture of what the most important nuggets are.

But we do, do we not, Paddy, have a huge set of headlines emerging from these papers?

Well, yes, because one of the words you've just used is picture.

So the emails are damning, that they do not in themselves contain proof of wrongdoing.

They are damning in the public, the jury of public opinion.

But there are also pictures which have caused a great deal of consternation.

One of them showing Andrew Mountbatten Windsor on all, apparently on all fours over a woman lying on the floor.

And I think there will be many women around the world who see that image and feel quite upset, who feel sick to the stomach about seeing that image.

You can't imagine what the families and indeed the victims of Epstein will feel seeing that image.

You can't imagine also what friends and family also of Andrew Mountbatten Windsor will say feel seeing that image.

As you say, that doesn't give us any evidence of wrongdoing.

But the visuals of the kinds of behavior that was taking place, we don't know where it was, we don't know when it was, we don't know who the woman is.

But I think there will be many people who look at that, and

particularly women who just think that in itself is quite a disturbing image.

Andrew Mountbatten Windsor has, of course, already been sort of edged out of public life.

But I think this image is one that will go around the world.

It will be seen by everybody in the country.

It adds, of course, to that image where he has his arm around Virginia Giuffre.

He'd always said he didn't recognize that photograph, a smiling Glenn Maxwell in the background.

But I think reputationally we're not talking about wrongdoing.

But in terms of reputation and image and perception, though, that set of photographs, I think, will take their place alongside the picture of him with his arm around Virginia Giuffre, who he denied meeting.

I think it will be incredibly difficult for him to escape the perception that that picture gives.

But, Laura, one of the other things that comes out of it is an insight into the relationship between these famous people.

At Epstein, for instance, Sarah Ferguson has apparently written an email thanking him for the way he praised her in front of her daughters.

And I was thinking to myself, it's an insight into the grip this man had that people seemed to want to have his attention, his affection, his praise.

It's something about, we keep asking ourselves, what did he have that these people wanted to get?

And in some areas, perhaps the question is answered by something very straightforward.

And one of the stories that has come out overnight is that Lord Mandelson's partner, Reynaldo da Silva, was given money by Epstein to pay the fees for him to train as an osteopath.

Lord Mandelson has said he doesn't want to add anything to it since he spoke to us at great length a couple of weeks ago.

But for people like him in the public eye who've tried to move on again, you see this damaging perception of just how strong these connections were.

And it's very, very troubling, I think, in many, many regards.

Also, there are all sorts of unverified, unsubstantiated allegations from an FBI tip line about what President Trump may or may not have done.

Now, as you've said, being included in these documents, whether it's an email, a photograph, or from an FBI tip line that does not in itself confirm wrongd in any way, shape or form.

But there's just so much in here, so much sort of shade being thrown, if you like that.

Frankly, if you were one of the people who's been mentioned in it, and

you absolutely never did anything wrong whatsoever, and

Epstein sort of duped you and you were drawn into his web and you cut off contact after he was convicted, you might have a case to feel pretty sore about it, that you're being castigated by implication.

Gary, are you one of the journalists who's been up all night trying to wade through all of this?

Is still pretty early in the States, not quite all night, but

we spent a good amount of time yesterday trying to make head or tail of it because it's, you know, it's like, you know, it's like wading through syrup.

You know, you can't, you can't ever know quite where you are.

It's sort of, you know, you don't know which way to turn, what to focus on, which bits are important, which aren't.

And you end up sort of doing just sort of searches for names or places or, or sort of dates and things like that to try and try and sift a little.

There's no roadmap to exploring this stuff.

So with more sifting to be done, tell us your three main headlines.

I think there are stacks of references to people we already know had been referenced in the previous releases.

So there are thousands of documents here that mentioned Donald Trump, for example.

Some of them are just articles, press articles that are in this dump.

Some of them are casual mentions in email.

Some of them are sort of pretty personal things.

There's one from Epstein where he's corresponding with a New York Times journalist.

And there's another one where he is sort of describing how unpleasant he thinks Donald Trump is.

And then there's all the ones you've been mentioning about Andrew.

There's this one curious document that's got quite a lot of focus, which is this sort of collation of tips to the FBI, literally like crime stoppers.

It's literally the, you know, the number, this National Threat center that people have been ringing sounds posh, but

Can you imagine having a number, say 1-800-IT is exactly it, but

it's literally ring up and spew what you think.

And there's a whole bunch of these things that relate to Trump.

Now, for some reason, these were collated, these random tips were collated last year and put together.

And some of them are horrid, I mean, really horrible, but there's absolutely no evidence for them whatsoever.

And indeed, the, the investigators at the time said they weren't credible.

Now you might think, well, you know, if you, if you believe in a cover up, you think, well, they would say that, wouldn't they?

But this was already in the context of everyone knowing the heinous nature of Epstein's crime.

So it's not like, you know, they were trying to do a massive cover up.

They were just trying to, you know, establish the credibility of these particular stories that they were getting on these phone calls.

But that will in some way fuel the continuing conspiracy because in some ways, information, even this vast amount of information that will never satisfy the core group who believe that the rich and powerful have kept things from them.

There's another aspect to this as well, which is some of the victims have been named publicly in this release of document.

And one of their lawyers who represents them was furious, saying even in some cases where there's been a line through the victim's name, except you can still read the victim's name.

So another aspect of this is there's another moment when the victims feel that they have been treated shoddily.

And Gary, there still are more documents.

I mean, it's hard to imagine they've got 3 million now already out in the public domain.

But from a political point of view in the U.S.

you know, some Democrats are still saying the government still hasn't published them all.

And there's, I mean, there's a couple of things there.

One is Todd Blanche, the deputy AG he actually acknowledged yesterday we will, we will have made mistakes in this release.

And they have an actual email address where you can email in if you think some your identity has been disclosed in a way it shouldn't have been disclosed.

And you're right, Gloria Allred has been, has been furious about that on behalf of some of the survivors that she represents.

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