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  • Very warm welcome to the programme. I'm Mark Lobel.

  • And it's been confirmed that Apple's quarterly revenue was held back by falling sales of its iPhones and weakness in China.

  • But the company's stock was higher in extended trading after a huge share buyback announcement and dividend increase.

  • Our North America business correspondent Michelle Fleury has the details.

  • Apple faces a raft of challenges when it comes to its single most important product, the iPhone.

  • Sales dropped 10%.

  • Competition is getting stiffer.

  • Samsung, for example, took the lead in global sales for the first three months of the year.

  • As for Apple's third largest region, greater China, sales were down 8%.

  • However, that was better than expected and it went some way towards calming investors' fears that Apple is losing market share to Chinese phone maker Huawei.

  • During the quarter, Apple released its first new major product in years, the Vision Pro.

  • But the high-priced virtual reality headset is only selling in small numbers at the moment.

  • On the service side, well, that is the rare bright spot for the business.

  • Given the challenges that Apple faces right now, the company was keen to look ahead.

  • The tech giant, which hasn't released a new iPad since 2022, was scheduled to release a new model next week.

  • CEO Tim Cook said Apple has big plans to announce from an AI point of view during its iPad event.

  • That, as well as the company's annual developer conference in June, all spell some sort of big news on the AI front.

  • And the potential of that, as well as the announcement of the biggest share buyback in the company's history, appeared to satisfy investors.

  • The tech giant's share price rose on the news.

  • It certainly did.

  • Shares of Apple were already up 2% before the earnings report and then jumped 6% in after-hours training.

  • Let's discuss this now with Martin Bacadax, the London Bureau Chief of the Street.

  • So, Martin, the markets liked what they heard.

  • Yeah, they absolutely did.

  • I have to say, I think it's that share buyback that's driving the bulk of the movement that we're seeing after hours.

  • It's probably about 4% of the 6% increase we're seeing, and I'm sure that's the most important factor.

  • But nonetheless, I think the numbers were just not as bad as investors had feared, particularly in China, but also in other parts of the world as well.

  • And Apple has bought a lot of faith, I think, from investors over time, and they're willing to give them a little bit of wiggle room into May and then into June for that developers conference, when they will map out their AI strategy.

  • And that will ultimately be the most important component for the company going forward.

  • I want to discuss AI with you in a moment, Martin, but Microsoft is now the world's most valuable company, and Samsung, the top smartphone seller.

  • And I've been reading your writing.

  • So why do you still say Apple is the most important stock in the stock market still?

  • What about Nvidia, for example?

  • No, it's a great question, and I think, and there's been a lot of debate about it.

  • I think Nvidia has captured a zeitgeist over the past year or so with respect to its AI ambitions and its chip making.

  • But for the most part, Nvidia really only sells to a handful of companies, and they're mostly these megatech sort of Microsoft and Tesla and others.

  • Apple has its tentacles across the whole of the global supply chain from a technology point of view.

  • It also gives you a wonderful read on the consumer as well and his or her abilities to trade up to these expensive handsets.

  • And of course, there's a political dimension to Apple's not only profits, but revenues as well, given its presence in China and in other markets around the world.

  • It's a widely held stock.

  • It's in the major benchmarks, and it's one that we look to on almost a daily basis to understand the sort of the mood of the market, if you will.

  • So I'm still firmly convinced that Apple is the most important stock.

  • But there are companies that are absolutely giving it its head.

  • OK. I mean, it's got it's got a lot of fingers in lots of pies.

  • I'm going to refrain from asking you if it's bitten off more than it can chew.

  • But let's turn to the elephant in the room, which is its AI strategy.

  • We're looking at the iPhone 16 coming out, we're looking at its iOS 18 operating system, a lot resting on what it can bring to drive sales there and get people to change their phones.

  • They keep holding on to their iPhones for longer now.

  • They really do.

  • I think there's been a lack of sort of a compelling reason to upgrade in the last two or three cycles.

  • And that really has been a headwind for Apple sales.

  • But what we've seen with Samsung, for instance, is that they are noting a significant reason for upgrades that is linked to the AI capability.

  • Customers are telling them that that's a big reason why they're able to pay these ever higher prices because of what the functionality can bring and the way that it changes the dynamism of the phone itself.

  • So I think Apple, if they are able to do that, they will absolutely get a tailwind into this replacement cycle going into the autumn.

  • But of course, a lot is going to depend on what that functionality is.

  • Apple's not saying much, but what they are saying is that they're going to focus on data security and privacy.

  • That's worked very well for Apple in the past.

  • And given the concerns that many people have with regards to the way that they interact with AI and how that information will be used, I think Apple's probably striking the right note here.

  • Very interesting.

  • Martin Bakkadax from the Street, London Bureau Chief of the Street.

  • Thanks for joining us.

Very warm welcome to the programme. I'm Mark Lobel.

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