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  • It's Sunday morning on CBS, and here again is Tracy Smith.

  • Shake It Off was a number one hit for Taylor Swift back in 2014, but she's hardly resting on her laurels.

  • Her hot new album is just one of the things we talked about when we visited her home in

  • Nashville for our Sunday Profile.

  • You might say this is Taylor Swift's happy place, at the piano in her Nashville home.

  • There have been so many songs I've written at this piano.

  • And it's off in the middle of the night?

  • It's usually in the middle of the night.

  • Or if I'm trying to get to sleep and I can't, and then I get an idea, I'm like, well, I'm not tired anyway.

  • And then kind of wander over here.

  • This is kind of a rare sight, not just because we were there.

  • Haven't serenaded someone in a while.

  • Hope you know that.

  • But because for the moment, she was actually sitting still.

  • And there never really has been another like Taylor Swift.

  • After only 13 years in the business, she's become a musical force of nature, with an armload of number one hits, more Grammy Awards than the Rolling Stones, and according to

  • Forbes, the distinction of being the highest paid celebrity on the planet.

  • By any measure, she's an amazing young woman, but there were times, she says, that being young and a woman worked against her.

  • You're always going to have people going, did she write all her own songs?

  • Talking about your personal life, talking about your dating life.

  • There's a different vocabulary for men and women in the music industry, right?

  • Give me an example.

  • Okay.

  • A man does something, it's strategic.

  • A woman does the same thing, it's calculated.

  • A man is allowed to react, a woman can only overreact.

  • And it seems her usual reaction is to get to work.

  • Taylor Swift writes or co-writes all of her songs.

  • What's more, her music videos are all her vision, from the pastel wonderland in me, to the giant dollhouse in her latest video, Lover.

  • Lover is also the title track of her critically acclaimed new studio album, her seventh.

  • She wrote the song on her piano at home and polished it up in the studio.

  • This is her video taken on her cell phone.

  • And once she recorded the music, Taylor, and her cats, went to Hollywood to make the music video.

  • And she invited us along to watch.

  • Okay, so when I come on to one of these sets, my heart is racing, I'm so excited, it's so cool.

  • Yeah, definitely.

  • You?

  • Absolutely.

  • And, action!

  • There's a love story here.

  • And like a lot of Taylor's work, it's an echo of her real life.

  • Born in Redding, Pennsylvania, Taylor Swift discovered her love for music as a toddler.

  • She set her sights on a career in country music, and eventually her parents and younger brother moved to Nashville to help her do it.

  • My brothers are real bro for doing that.

  • Yeah, they all upended their lives.

  • For sure.

  • It worked out well.

  • Yeah, I buy them lots of presents.

  • The rest reads like a fantasy.

  • Taylor Swift became a country music phenomenon, and in the last few years, a pop icon.

  • But the superstar is, by her own admission, as emotionally fragile as any other 20-something.

  • I'm still someone who is the first to apologize when I'm wrong, and I think, but I think I'm better at standing up for myself when I've been wronged.

  • So that's something that I think also comes with growing up.

  • Which brings us to Scooter Braun.

  • Yeah.

  • Earlier this summer, Scooter Braun, a talent agent with whom Swift says she has a contentious relationship, acquired the rights to her previous recordings, her masters, when his company bought Scott Borchetta's Big Machine label group for a reported $300 million.

  • Borchetta, who worked with Swift for years, says she and those close to her, including her dad, who was an investor, knew about the deal in advance, and that Swift had previously been offered the chance to buy her own masters.

  • She remembers it differently.

  • And so you didn't see it coming?

  • No.

  • So how did you find out?

  • I found out when it was online, like when it hit the news.

  • Nobody in your inner circle knew?

  • Nobody knew.

  • And you didn't smell it?

  • No.

  • I knew he would sell my music.

  • I knew he would do that.

  • I couldn't believe who he sold it to, because we've had endless conversations about Scooter

  • Braun.

  • And he has 300 million reasons to conveniently forget those conversations.

  • Now could you rerecord?

  • Oh, yeah.

  • Might you do that?

  • Oh, yeah.

  • That's a plan?

  • Yeah, absolutely.

  • Scooter Braun may not agree with her side of the story, but he did reach out to Swift in a tweet last week, calling her new album brilliant.

  • Oh, my God.

  • OK, I'm going to do it, I guess.

  • It's clear that she wants to control her music.

  • If anybody is watching this, thank you so much.

  • In fact, when it's time to release one of her new songs, she does it personally, talking to her fans live on Instagram.

  • But I'm really excited about sharing this with you, because you've really been there for me, and you've made my life what it is.

  • This personal connection has earned her a loyal following.

  • But her openness comes at a price.

  • She's followed just about everywhere she goes these days, by people who are crazy about her, or just plain crazy.

  • Where is home for you now?

  • It's a very good question.

  • I try not to ever really say where I am the most, because since all my addresses are on the Internet, people tend to show up uninvited, like, you know, dudes that think we have an imaginary marriage.

  • You mentioned that you keep wound dressing with you?

  • Yeah, I've had a lot of stalkers show up to the house armed.

  • So we have to think that way.

  • And she's come under attack in other ways.

  • You need only glance at the tabloids to see some very well-publicized feuds.

  • And she often hits back at her haters through her music.

  • For instance, in You Need to Calm Down, she calls out anti-gay protesters and online trolls.

  • I'm curious, because I feel like almost every album you have a song where you address the haters, at least one song, sometimes more than one song.

  • I probably do have that habit.

  • I imagine that I might have that habit, yeah.

  • Why is that?

  • Why sing to the haters?

  • Well, when they stop coming for me, I will stop singing to them.

  • You know, people go on and on about, like, you have to forgive and forget to move past something.

  • No, you don't.

  • You don't have to forgive, and you don't have to forget to move on.

  • You can move on without any of those things happening.

  • You just become indifferent, and then you move on.

  • Do you believe in forgiveness?

  • Yes, absolutely.

  • Like, for people that are important in your life who have added, you know, who have enriched your life and made it better, and also there's been some struggle and some bad stuff too.

  • But I think that, you know, if something's toxic, and it's only ever really been that, what are you going to do?

  • Just move on.

  • It's like, just move on.

  • It's fine.

  • In doctor's office lighting, I didn't tell you I was scared.

  • Taylor Swift's music is always personal, sometimes intensely so.

  • There's one song on the album called Soon You'll Get Better that it's, I can't even really hear, I can't even listen to it.

  • She won't talk specifically about her inspiration, but it comes at a time when her mother Andrea, who was battling cancer, suffered a relapse.

  • It's really interesting because I don't think I have written a song quite like that before, and it's just sort of like, it's just a tough one.

  • I can imagine, but I can also tell you, having listened to it, that it's universal.

  • It's just not something that we deal with until we have to, until we see it, until we experience it, until someone close to us is going through something like that.

  • And so writing about it was really emotional, and I'm just going to stop talking about it now.

  • I understand.

  • Oh yeah, feel the temperature?

  • It's warm.

  • It's fine.

  • Andrea is a lot more comfortable here, where she can plunge into her work.

  • This glass tank will become a symbolic fishbowl in the music video.

  • I very often times remark that my life is like a fishbowl, and that like, if I were to like fall in love, you know, somebody's choosing to be in that fishbowl with me.

  • To jump into the fishbowl with you.

  • To jump into the fishbowl with me and live in that world just with me, and you know.

  • It's not as depressing as it sounds, I promise.

  • It's just a figurative, it's just symbolic.

  • Talk about fishbowls.

  • She's been dating British actor Joe Alwyn for three years.

  • Seems he's up for a swim.

  • Couldn't you just computer generate this and not jump in?

  • I don't know.

  • Couldn't we have done this on the, well, yeah, we'll never know.

  • Alright.

  • We could let our friends crash in the living room.

  • At the moment, Taylor Swift is, well, fully immersed in today.

  • Beyond that, she says she doesn't know and doesn't want to.

  • Do you think about, you know, what am I going to do in 20, 30 years?

  • No, because that puts me into what I call like a panic spiral.

  • Like I cannot do that.

  • I've never been able to do that.

  • Why?

  • It just freaks me out.

  • When I zoom out too far, I freak out.

  • Do I know where I'm going to be or even want to be in 20 years?

  • Absolutely not.

  • Like, not taking a single day for granted.

  • So how far ahead do you look?

  • Six months.

  • That's about it.

  • Just because I have to plan shows and stuff.

  • But I don't know what I'll do after this album, and I think that's great.

  • I tell myself, like, it's actually really ungrateful to just assume that you have 20 years.

  • Like, be stoked that you have today.

It's Sunday morning on CBS, and here again is Tracy Smith.

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