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  • We start with an unusual observation.

  • There is a huge variance in how much we feel we have to say for ourselves around some people compared to around others.

  • Certain people make us feel boring, others do not.

  • We tend to evaluate people on how interesting they are, but we're thereby liable to miss a more acute and relevant issue: How interesting does a given person make us feel?

  • Why in the company of some people do our minds quickly fill with stories while around others, we experience ourselves as blank, dull and close to inert?

  • Why when some people ask, "So what have you been up to lately?" do we positively brim with a multitude of topics, whereas with others faced with the very same question, we'll struggle to remember that we've ever even existed?

  • To explain the phenomenon, we have to credit our unconscious minds with a faculty we might never have known we possessed.

  • Throughout our interactions with people, we are continually picking up on small clues as to how much our interlocutor is understanding and appreciating of what we're saying.

  • When we mention a given issue, how much do their eyes light up?

  • How much can they follow?

  • How much of our reality can this person accept? How much shocks them?

  • How much can they take in their stride?

  • How much of what is knotted and complex in us can they safely receive?

  • How much of our reality would we need to hide from them to spare them, and therefore us an alarmed or censorious response?

  • From the answers to these multiple data points, we come without typically even realizing we've done so to a broad and active conclusion.

  • How much of me this person is likely to get?

  • And rather simply, the more the answer is a lot, the more we will have to say, and the more the answer is not so much, the more a cautionary instinct will form inside us telling us to remain quiet.

  • This simultaneously helps to explain how someone gets to be a companion around whom people feel they have a lot to say.

  • They do this by opening many rooms in their own minds.

  • Or if you like by saying a lot to themselves.

  • Of course, this is far from simple. Many rooms of our minds contain very frightening things indeed.

  • Areas of properly daunting loss, pain, horror, and chaos, which we can be forgiven for never wanting to go anywhere near.

  • Yet, a person will feel interested precisely to the extent that they have become a brave and relaxed wanderer inside their own mindsthat they have become familiar, and one could almost say at ease, with things that are sad, dark, agonizing, and potentially shameful.

  • When they're at home with their own anxiety, grief, strangeness, and silliness.

  • So, by a beautiful principle of reciprocity, they will be at home with ours as well.

  • Where they have gone, we can follow because they have talked to themselves, we will be able and keen to talk to them.

  • What they have felt safe exploring in themselves, we will be able to safely unpack around them.

  • This gives us guidance as to how to become a more interesting person for others by becoming the best possible travelers inside ourselves.

  • We need to open as many doors to our psyches as we can.

  • For this will simultaneously surreptitiously let out a signal to others that we will be a safe recipient for all of their smaller, more private, less often mentioned observations and feelings.

  • Other people will have much to say to us once we have had the courage to say a lot to ourselves.

We start with an unusual observation.

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