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  • Sticking your tongue out is the ultimate sign of rock and roll.

  • But why?

  • This man has something to do with it.

  • Meet John Pash.

  • He designed the most famous tongue in history.

  • I was at the Royal College up to 1970, doing three years at a design course there.

  • When I was in my last year, the college got a phone call from the Stone's office saying would a student go along and talk to Mick Jagger about forthcoming tour?

  • I think the tutor was quite a sort of fan of my work, so I got the gig.

  • Mick said he wanted something related to more touring.

  • We shared an interest in sort of 1930s, 1940s tour posters, particularly French ones.

  • I took a couple of weeks working on the poster and brought it back to Mick.

  • He said, "Well, I quite like it, but I think you can do better."

  • And you can imagine I thought, "Oh God, I've blown it."

  • John drew up another version and this time the band loved it.

  • His poster was a triumph and before long, another project was on the cards.

  • They had a sort of small logo in mind for their new record label.

  • I got a letter and then a call, asking if I'd go and meet Mick Jagger at his house in Shady Walk.

  • So I went along there and had a meeting with him.

  • He wanted something to stand alone, something like the Shell logo on the petrol stations at the time.

  • And he showed me a cutting that he found in the local news agent.

  • The image was of the Indian goddess Kali with her tongue sticking out.

  • And I think it was that moment that was the real spark.

  • It represented, I suppose, anti-authority, it's like kids sticking their tongue out.

  • It's rebellious. It kind of fitted what the Stones represented at that time.

  • I went home and got out my sketchbook and pencils and tried to draw a disembodied tongue.

  • I did three or four different angles of it.

  • One of the rough designs seemed to be much better than the rest of them.

  • That's the one that I was going to recommend to Mick when we had our next meeting.

  • Now, some people say to me that it was inspired by Mick Jagger's mouth, but in fact, it wasn't.

  • I always saw it as basically a woman's mouth because I wanted to use a very strong red, obviously to grab attention.

  • The tongue had its first big debut on the inside sleeve of the Rolling Stones' Sticky Fingers album,

  • but before long, it was stamped everywhere.

  • These rebellious red lips became a global icon.

  • I sometimes get emails from people, particularly one, which, some guy had, made his girlfriend have it tattooed on her bottom and sent me a photograph,

  • which I thought was going a bit too far but that's Rolling Stones fans for you.

  • It's obviously interesting to see how many people wear the t-shirts.

  • When I see somebody walking down the street and I'm together with my wife,

  • I just give her a nudge and that's enough to say, "Oh, yes, I've clocked that."

Sticking your tongue out is the ultimate sign of rock and roll.

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