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  • - I definitely always was a performer.

  • My family has like a running joke

  • of calling me Havana the musical

  • because I sort of was dancing and singing

  • and putting on little one woman productions

  • by myself ever since I was born.

  • Hi, I'm Havana Rose Liu and this is On The Rise.

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  • I still have a hard time calling myself an actress

  • I think partially because I'm so new to the craft

  • and I had never sort of aspired to have this be my career.

  • I don't know,

  • I think I have too much imposter syndrome

  • about sort of feeling like I can't like claim to the title

  • of what it is to be an actress

  • and sort of I don't know all what that means,

  • what the label means.

  • So I sort of don't call myself that, but I act (laughing).

  • I have a very supportive family

  • in terms of following creative endeavors.

  • I feel really lucky to be able to say that.

  • And I think especially

  • during this past sort of like seven months

  • I've been in and out of limbo of not really having

  • any of the projects I worked on out in the world.

  • I have a Sunday family dinner

  • with my extended family that lives in New York.

  • They have been very patient with me

  • and kind with all of my sort of like insecurities

  • and in the waiting period.

  • So I have nothing, but sort of thanks for them.

  • I don't think I ever really like aspired to be an actor

  • in any capacity, but I do feel as though

  • sort of everything I have studied up until this point

  • has sort of perfectly folded into the dough

  • of being an actor.

  • I started doing visual arts primarily

  • and that taught me a lot about the visual medium

  • and I think composition and symbolism

  • and then dance also taught me performing in a different way

  • also stage presence and sort of like also honestly emotion.

  • So I think in some way I never knew I wanted to act

  • but all of those different things

  • and having some level

  • of deep interest and training in those things

  • has sort of been a perfect through line

  • into now realizing that acting is what I wanna do

  • if I wanna do all those things in one.

  • My relationship to acting is sort of,

  • kind of like if you would imagine

  • like a romantic relationship

  • is the metaphor I could give for it, which is the...

  • Like we went on a few dates over the past

  • like three years and I felt like,

  • I don't know maybe I was like playing kind of hard to get.

  • And now I'm like at that phase where

  • you like kind of can't ignore the elephant in the room

  • that like maybe you're in love with somebody.

  • And that's kind of how I feel with acting at this point.

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  • "No Exit" is a fun,

  • fast,

  • flashy,

  • oh, I'm getting like stressed thinking about it,

  • but it's I got a young woman named Darby who I play

  • and she is on route to a family emergency

  • when she gets caught in a blizzard

  • and has to stop in a sort of rest stop.

  • I think I had the most interesting February

  • because "The Sky Is Everywhere" came out

  • and "No Exit" came out all within the same month.

  • And they're two such polar opposite roles.

  • "The Sky Is Everywhere",

  • I play a young woman named Bailey who,

  • it's not a spoiler, dies pretty early on in the film.

  • And she is essentially

  • like the embodiment of, I think, light and bravery.

  • Whereas I think Darby is colored

  • by maybe more blues, grays greens and purples.

  • You know, the contrast between those two films

  • has been like just created a very polar month with such

  • vast highs and fast lows.

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  • I definitely don't think of myself as having made it.

  • I literally just don't even know what that even means.

  • I think like make what, you know, what is it?

  • Also I've made things, I've made some movies

  • I've made some pieces of art, but like,

  • I don't know making it, I hope to make more things.

  • I think for me I've had so many beautiful highs

  • in my career this far,

  • I feel really lucky to be able to say that.

  • One particular moment that was really powerful

  • was when I had the premier for "No Exit"

  • and it was the first time I had been able to do anything

  • in person for any of this job.

  • And it felt like sort of this odd shift

  • of having this world I had been living in

  • or this sort of experience I'd been having

  • had been sort of this internal dialogue with myself

  • and this well kept secret.

  • And then it felt like the first time

  • where I was looking in other people's eyes

  • and they were looking at me

  • and we had the same narrative over what my life had been

  • in the past three years.

  • And I think that that was a very odd shift

  • of feeling reality come and meet

  • this sort of magical ever tumultuous world of filmmaking

  • that I had been a part of.

  • I think honestly, one of my biggest role models is like,

  • I have a number of them,

  • but really one of them is my grandma on my Chinese side.

  • I am consistently very touched

  • and taken aback by how open and supportive

  • and really just like open-minded I think she is.

  • And I think she had such an extreme sense of bravery

  • and immigrating to this country,

  • and I think that that level of bravery

  • is something that I try to pull from.

  • She's also kind of an opera singer.

  • And I think like her embracing of the arts

  • and of just sort of every aspect of my life,

  • my queerness, my choices,

  • I mean, she sat through this bloody film

  • and didn't cover her eyes the whole time.

  • It's just moments like that

  • that I think she really stands out to me

  • as somebody to aspire to be like in some way.

  • So I'd say that she's a role model for me.

  • My nana, yeah.

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  • I think my first celebrity crushes were like animated

  • because I was young

  • but I think probably I think Spinelli from "Recess".

  • I think I thought she was like,

  • just really cool at the time

  • I was like, "That's like a cool person.

  • I wanna be like that person."

  • And then realized later, like I was probably queer

  • and then probably Danny Phantom as well

  • 'cause he was so cool, but they're animated people

  • so I don't know if that counts.

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  • I'm currently in a phase of watching a lot of documentaries.

  • I love films that do so to sort of work reality in some way.

  • And so I think for me, sometimes I can get a little

  • ungrounded in being in filmmaking sometimes.

  • And so for me, documentaries also like are

  • the real human kernels that we're really building off

  • of like true human story.

  • At least that's how I perceive the work.

  • And so for me, it's been really nice to ground down

  • into some of those.

  • But I have been rewatching "Schitt's Creek"

  • with my little brother.

  • It's been so fun.

  • That show, I know it's a comedy and I laugh a lot

  • but I also like really leap watching "Schitt's Creek".

  • There's something so touching

  • about the way that they all grow.

  • And I don't know, I just find myself like laughing

  • and like pouring tears.

  • And so it's been fun to watch with my little brother

  • cuz he thinks I'm a little bit kooky.

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  • I think anytime anybody has any kind of platform,

  • I think that there is like a conscious responsibility

  • that one needs to have about how to use it

  • and how to sort of consider what that means.

  • I think for me right now, that specifically has to do

  • with the last three years we've had

  • and my community of Asian Americans really suffering.

  • Some of the power of media really is that we have found

  • that representation in media does change

  • people's perceptions of a whole group of people.

  • I think it's sort of like,

  • should be a part of like being a human

  • to have consciousness over other human beings

  • and the impact that you have.

  • And for me, like that responsibility extends outwards.

  • So every time I do a role

  • I donate a portion of the proceeds

  • from that role to an organization that directly relates

  • to let's say an issue in the film

  • or an issue that my character faces.

  • Filmmaking is such a communal act

  • and in many ways like that community

  • and collaboration doesn't just exist on set

  • or sort of within the confines

  • of who's involved directly with the script

  • but also the communities that are actually living out

  • those stories that you're telling.

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  • If you had told me three years ago that I would be here

  • I would've like probably,

  • cowered and like giggled and like run away.

  • I don't think I would've been able

  • to conceptualize this for myself at all.

  • I don't know, I just don't think

  • that it makes sense for me personally

  • to ever put a secure image of who I think I wanna be

  • or sort of what I want my life to look like

  • and hope that the universe takes me to good places.

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