That's right. I said it.

You know all about the never Trumpers, that rump group of republicans who have loudly spoken out against former president Donald Trump and what he has done to the GOP.

Now, meet the never-again Trumpers.

That's how former House speaker Paul Ryan described himself in an interview with ABC News that aired recently.

Here's what he had to say.

I'm proud of the accomplishments of the tax reform, the deregulation of criminal justice reform.

I'm really excited about the judges.

We got on the bench, not just the Supreme Court, but throughout the judiciary, but I am a never-again trumpet, why?

Because I want to win and we lose with Trump.

It was really clear to us in 18 in 20 and now in 2022.

Ryan who left Congress in 2019 has grown increasingly outspoken about his feelings about Trump and the future of the republican party.

In late October he told Fox business Network this.

That new swing voter in American politics is the suburban voter and it's really clear the suburban voter doesn't like Trump, but they like republicans.

So I think anybody not named Trump I think is so much more likely to win the White house for us.

And back in June at an event for South Carolina GOP Rep. Tom Rice, who voted to impeach Trump in 2021, Ryan was deeply critical of those within the GOP who didn't vote that way.

There are a lot of people who say they're going to vote their conscience.

They're going to vote for the constitution.

They're going to vote for their convictions.

But when it gets hard to do that, they don't do it.

He said at the time.

Sidebar: Rice went on to lose the Republican primary in his district to a Trump-backed challenger.

Ryan's position on Trump is an interesting one.

It gives the former president credit for what he accomplished in office while suggesting he is neither the present nor the future of the Republican Party, which is where I think some of the more serious challenges to Trump in 2024 will wind up landing.

Florida Governor, Ron DeSantis, for example, would do well to echo Ryan's viewpoint.

Give Trump credit for what he did as president while making clear that his political appeal has shrunk to the point where it would be a mistake for republicans to again nominate him.

At the core of Ryan's position as a never-again Trumper is something that I've often wondered doesn't get more attention, Donald Trump's win-loss record.

The Trump famously bragged that we are going to start winning again and we are going to win so much.

But the truth is that since the 2016 election, he's been much more closely associated with well, losing.

In Trump's time in office, Republicans lost control of the house and lost control of the Senate.

Republicans did wind up retaking the house majority in 2022, but their victory was far narrower than many expected.

And Democrats managed to hang on to their own narrow Senate majority, with several Trump-backed candidates falling short in key races.

That decided lack of winning seems to be a clear weak spot for Trump as he looks to rally support behind his third presidential bid.

And De Santis already appears to be moving to exploit it.

Following a crushing re-election victory this month, the Santis said of his critics, "I would just tell people to go check out the scoreboard from last Tuesday night."

Scoreboard.

Maybe De Santis is part of the never-again trump movement, too.

I think so, and that is the point.

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