I'm working.

Yeah.

So Ryan approached me about doing directing a john candy documentary, right?

And uh, I wanted to talk about this because john candy was one of my comedy heroes, grew up watching SCTV and so many people know him from uh, trains, planes and automobiles or uncle buck or um, splash.

But you know, I, I really saw him on SCTV and was just enchanted with this guy and I had the opportunity to spend some time with him.

When I was in college.

I orchestrated, uh, basically a scam to get john candy to come and visit the, the lampoon building and I got to go and get him.

Um, and chauffeur him around and I got to spend about a day and a half with him I think.

And it was magical because he was, he, he taught me a lesson.

He was everything I wanted john candy to be in person.

And you know, sometimes that's not the case.

You know, you, you, you, you idolize someone, you think they're great and you meet them and they're not that person and it's not their fault.

They're projecting something that we all like and then we want them to be that he was that times 10, he was the john candy that I was hoping he would be times 10 and he was great and I remembered talking to him pretty late at night having a chat with him and he asked me what I was thinking of doing and I said, I might like to try comedy and he looked like threw me like into my eyes and he said, he said, kid a lot, like, like johnny Larue, like, hey kid, and he said, kid, you don't try comedy, you do it because you have to.

And I walked away from that thinking he's right.

I mean, if I'm in, I'm all in, there's no trying it and huh, this isn't going, this isn't working out.

I think I will take the L S.

A.

T um instead, you're like, actually I will take this LSD and just make jokes instead.

Right?

Exactly.

My God, what are you going to be a lawyer?

That was my fault and it still is my fallback kind of lawyer.

Just whatever lawyer kim Kardashian is, that's what I'm going to be.

She's a lawyer and I'm a lawyer.

Don't give up on your secondary dream, That's the most inspirational thing.

Never give up on your fallback.

You don't try to be a kim Kardashian lawyer?

Never stop checking that.

That's what kim Kardashian would probably say to me, I said, you know, sometimes I think I might try being a lawyer, you don't try being a lawyer slash owner of the Spanx empire or skim sorry, sorry, did I say?

Yeah, are they different?

Of course there, they're two completely different brands, like Pepsi and coke, okay, okay, look, everyone's on me.

I know, I know I'm asking I made a mistake, I made a mistake.

It is, it's two different brands of like, you know, getting it in.

Is there, is there, Hey, can I ask a quick question.

Also, did we just come up with a different term for pornography as well?

Getting what is getting it?

Getting it right.

Get it tight.

Is their trademark that well, Erica Brown is always saying that she works, she works here and she pretty much runs everything here at the Konan empire and Erica Brown, who is the queen?

She says, get it right, get it tight.

Um, my question is, is there a skims slash Spanx for men?

I think there is.

I would like that.

It's just Spanx.

Oh, it's just, it's me wearing, There's just male Spanx Spanx.

Are there male Skims?

I'm sure there are.

Yeah, I guess I've got to got to have those.

Well, it's a little late now.

It's a podcast.

You don't need them now.

I do know there's some video here.

I hate to break it to you, but there's something.

Why do you say it so conspiratorially or kind of sexually like because you we have those weighted blankets and it makes people feel the idea of me being held closely all day in my various areas.

Various areas.

I'm not gonna buy them for you that you have to go and do that.

I can't go, You have to go, you're my assistant to do that.

You have to go and say, I'm here to buy some skim slash Spanx for Conan o'brien.

Hold on, we've got we've got verification verification.

No male skims.

Yeah.

Let's get this out to the Kardashians.

No, no, no, don't give it to the Kardashians.

You create a brand, my lawyering and you do spank.

I have to mention this.

I think we may have mentioned this before, but it just cracks me up.

You know, there's a lot of celebrities out there and Ryan Reynolds one, he's got like an aviator gin.

I believe I've got a company called hank's kerchief company.

Not only that, my jacket is literally lined with uh Hanks kerchiefs that that is a wonderful line has got the little logo and everything.

You know what I love?

Did you want to sell handkerchiefs or did you have to because of the name of the game?

I wanted to see the other options.

I wanted to sell.

I wanted to sell kerchiefs, I wanted to sell kerchiefs.

And then as I was sitting there about four minutes after I thought of the idea, I burst out laughing because I thought of the name and so many people, there was one group of people that were like, no, you really shouldn't do that.

That's hard to pronounce.

And I said it's easy.

Hanks kerchiefs and they're like, no, people are gonna think it's hank's kerchiefs and I'm like, you just said it not a problem.

Yeah, that's not a problem because I didn't know that and I thought that you didn't want to, but because it fits your name, you had to be like that.

Maybe you have to do O'brien's potatoes.

I do whatever, you know?

Yeah.

You want to know what brian's potatoes do you like potatoes, corn in?

I can't have them.

They make me that you so no, you eat so many potatoes and then you need your special Conan O'brien Spanx.

Yeah, exactly, exactly.

Well anyway, market demand, but you do Spanx, but just call them straight up hank's.

Yes.

Listen, I will listen, I will, I will invest in the company.

I think that you are the front man for the we call them Hanks and it is male Spanx.

Um, they can't sue you because that's your name.

You've had that your entire life and I will be an investor.

I also want to be in on the design.

Have a lot of ideas about where it should hug and hold okay all the areas, people getting bummed out.

You say it in such a creepy way.

I'm trying to hear you.

Yeah, I'm empowering myself to talk about my body, but you don't understand when you say it were then forced to think about it.

You know what I mean?

And visualize it.

I'm visualizing it and I'm telling you, we're doing this, we're doing this, we're doing it, We're doing it.

We can't release this podcast until we've, you know, Oh, trust me, this is never going to be released.

Yeah, I mean, but anyway, back to what we were saying, I'm so glad that you're doing this documentary on john Kenny because he was important to me.

I mean I'm sure you're going to, but people like marty short, they have great stories all I mean, all of them, I'm actually most excited about the ability to be able to talk to as many people that john worked with and was close with because everybody sort of feels the same.

There's not, there's not really anybody who goes that son of a bit.

I hated that guy, like he really, truly is a complete outlier because there is not a soul on earth that didn't believe jOHn candy and that, you know, hey, I always believed him in, you know, whatever I saw him in, he was the guy that was just as lethal in a supporting role as he was in a lead role, you know, I mean, he could be the polka, you know, king of, you know, the midwest and just kill for, you know, two or three scenes, but he could also be uncle buck, you know, and he really was just, you know, and by the way, you know, he would go off and make these, you know, he's part of that generation because I, I really look at, you know, SCTV and SNl that being like the first like young second graduating class of tv comedy that then you saw graduate and matriculate over time and get into movies and yet he would go off and do these big movies and yet there's also like a handful of Canadian films I've never seen that he went and did because he would always go back home and do Canadian.

He has like a big farm.

Yeah.

And so he, there's just this wealth of, of, of stuff out there and and he was just so great in everything and what makes it so tragic is that?

Well, I mean there's a lot of things that, that, that make it tragic, but like he really was on the cusp I think of becoming like a really Beloved dramatic actor and I think he was like one roll away from that actually really becoming the case because the blueprint is all there.

I remember very clearly uh started my talk show in uh September of 1993 and I'm on set um because I used to always think one of the people I can't wait to have on is john candy because that's going to like close the loop, you know what I mean?

I'll be able to tell him remember I talked to you years ago and you told me this and here I am and I remember someone coming in and we were in rehearsal and someone told us that john candy had passed away and I just deflated, you know, and I couldn't believe it because it was such a loss, He did a sketch.

He was in a sketch and SCTV sketch, That's one of that seared my brain.

It seared my brain.

There was a sketch, it was a promo for a television show, a western called yellow belly.

And um, and john candy plays yellow belly and the whole song is, he's such a coward.

It's like yellow belly, the coward.

And he's so, he's dressed as this sort of cavalry soldier and he's shaking and quaking and he's afraid and he's walking down the street and a woman and her daughter like wearing bonnets walk by and the daughter, I think I'm getting this wrong, I'm sure.

But what I remember is the daughter sort of whispering to the mom like mom, who is that man?

And she goes shani, it's yellow belly and john candy turns and shoots them both in the back.

My God, it's I was watching that, I was watching that with my brothers in, I don't know, 1977 in, in Rhode island in MS Kwan Market, Rhode island at my grandfather's house, huddled around a black and white tv and my mind exploded through my skull that you could do that.

And then the song goes yo and the gamma rays origin.

Seriously?

No, I mean that the idea was so wrong and so funny and he was so good in it.

Uh, and so when I finally got to meet him, I just said, I'm sorry Yellow Bell.

And he was like, chuckled, chuckled about yellow belly.

That's amazing.

But I'd love to talk with you for the doc.

I make no promises that you'll make the cut as long as you meet my fee.

Yes, I'll meet your fee.

I will all the brown M and M's.

I've read the contract, I've read the contract.