Jacobsondoesn't needtodomuchtalkinginhisencounterwithgacyasitquicklybecomesclearthattheformerpogotheclownistryinghisbesttopresentalibiafteralibiforhisinnocenceisnotonethat I killed.
So I don't knownothingabouthim.
Gacyhimselfiscomposedforthemostpart, althoughthereis a momentwherehedemonstrateshisinfamousropetrickwith a shoelacethatechoesthemethodologyofhishorriblecrimesandyoujustturnthisand I saidbecauseit's anattorney.
I saidthat's theonlytime I everlearnedpreciselythekindofnotfoundontheropes.
NumbernineTedBundytimecanchangemanythingsabout a person, includinghowtheybehavewhilebeinginterviewed.
TheTedBundyfeaturedin a 1977 jailhouseinterviewfromKUTVnewsappearsmoreinlinewiththesuaveyetcoldbloodedreputationBundyhadamongothernotoriousserialkillers.
Youfeelthateverythingwillturnout a lotthatyouare.
Doyoustillfeelthatmorethanever.
Hesmiles a lotduringthepeaceanddisplaysbodylanguagethatappearsrelaxedandalmosthappy.
I'm notguilty.
Doesthat, doesthatincludethetime I stole a comicbookwhen I wasfiveyearsold, Bundykeepseyecontactwithhisinterviewthroughoutmostoftheirconversationandit's easytobecomelulledinto a falsesenseofsecurity, whichwasexactlyted's intention.
Ifsomeone's crazyenoughandnotenough, dosomethinglikethat, I can't stophim.
There's nothing I cando.
Fastforwardtothenightbeforehisexecutionandwesee a fearfulandpensiveTedBundy, a manseekingtoshiftblameforhiscrimesduringhisinterviewwithchristianconservativeevangelistJamesDobson, Thereareforcesthatlooseninthiscountry, particularlyagain, thiskindviolentpornography.
It's easytoseewhyduringsomeofRamirez's morenotableinterviewsovertheyears, includingoneconductedwithauthorMikeWatkiss, serialkillersdoon a smallscalewhatgovernmentsdointhelargeone.
Theyare a productofthetimesandthesearebloodthirstytimes.
RamirezissomewhattenseresponsestoWatkissquestioningimply a coiledrageandangerthat's alsoexemplifiedbythenightstalkersbreathingasheseemstobecomeannoyedwithWatkiss.
I'lltellyouwhat I gaveuponloveandhappiness a longtimeago.
Why I don't caretoexplainthat.
Lettheletthequotestandforitself.
Ramireziscomparativelymorerelaxedduring a piecewithInsideEdition, althoughthatinterviewalsohammershomethenightstalker's obsessionwithsatanismevilandtheoccult, I believeinthe, intheevilinhumannature, thisis a wickedwickedworldandin a wickedworld, Wickedpeopleareborn.
ThekillingofAmerica, everythingwenttowardskillinghimand I didn't, But I'm saying, Wow, it's uncanny, itwasalmostlikeitwasmeanttobethatwayand I said, Wow, thisgottastopKemper's impressiveintellectandwellspokennaturebeliesthebrutalityof a manwhocommittedhisfirstmurderattheageof 15 andithadbeenin a city, I wouldhavebeen a massmurdereratage 15.
I wouldhavekilleduntiltheygunnedmedown.
I wouldn't havebeenabletoreasonmywayoutofit.
Thekillerevenmakes a selfreferentialjoketohismodusoperandiofpickingupHitchhikersbyputtingon a pairofglassesandaskingthecamerawhethertheywouldgetinto a carwithhim.
Now, wouldyougetinthecarwiththisman?
Kemper's mentalstatecomesacrossasperpetuallyactive, like a bubblingpotofwaterabouttoboiloverwhilethedocumentariesexploitativenarrationpushesthecreepfactorofthisone.
Overthetop.
I amanamericanand I killedamericans.
I am a humanbeingand I killedhumanbeings.
I diditinmysociety, numbersix, JeffreyDahmer's, there's nobarelyrepressedragewithinthedemeanorofJeffreyDahmerashediscusseshishistorywithinterviewerstonephillipsand I actedonmyfantasiesandthat's whereeverythingwentwrong.
TheGreenRiverkillerwasoneofthemostprolificofallamericanserialmurdererswouldbemyfingerovermydriver's licensetohidemyname, ridgwaywasalsoperhapsoneofthemostunrepentant, a sentimentthat's placedfrontandcenterduringanyofhisinterviews, A pictureofmyson.
Thegrainyandblownout a v qualityofthisinterviewfootageonlyseemstoaddtothefeelingofgrimeandfilthleftoverbytools, gleefulaccountsanddeliveryjustlikethat, drinking a cupoftalksmokysafe.
Numbertwois a Segawaunlikethemajorityofourotherentries, hesays, Sagawaisn't technically a serialkiller.
However, thisinterviewfootagefromViceistoodisturbingnottomakeourlist.
Heraccusationsofsonictormentandfoodtampering, speaktoherparanoiaandmentalstateduringthistimeandthenoneday I didn't washmyfoodoffand I wassickforthreeweeks, almostdied, A statethatgraduallyreaches a feverpitchduringtheinterview, thanks a lot, I lostmylifebecauseofit.
I couldn't evenget a fairtrialfaceasshedirectlyaddresses.
believeme.
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