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  • Vanessa: Hi, I'm Vanessa  

  • from SpeakEnglishWithVanessa.com. Today,  I have a special guest, my husband, Dan

  • Dan: Hello

  • Vanessa: Today, we are going to be having a long  

  • English conversation, because over two years agoback in February 2020, we made this conversation  

  • and millions of you loved this and said that  it helped you to immerse yourself in English  

  • and have a fun time. Today, we are going to be  doing something similar. We'll be talking about  

  • at least 10, possibly more, topics. We'll be  giving our opinions and stories and ideas

  • Dan: Answers

  • Vanessa: Yes, whatever comes up  

  • along the way. There will be subtitles for key  phrases down here, but you can also click CC to  

  • get the full subtitles so that you don't miss any  words. All right, are you ready to get started

  • Dan: I'm ready

  • Vanessa: Let's do it.  

  • But wait, before we get started, like always, I  have created a free PDF worksheet for this lesson  

  • that you can download. Never forget what you are  about to learn. You can click on the link in the  

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  • of today's questions too. Dan

  • Oo. Vanessa

  • Okay. Are you ready for question number one? Dan

  • Yes, I'm ready. What is it? Vanessa

  • All right. Question number one ... Dan

  • What is the meaning of life? Vanessa

  • Oh, that would be a good start. Topic number one  is family. I'm going to be putting the timestamps  

  • for all of these topics in the description, so if  you want to rewatch any of these sections you can  

  • easily skip to them. My first question is about  family, and that is what is an interesting fact  

  • about your family history? Dan

  • Interesting fact. Well, I don't know too much  about my mom's side of the family. I know they've  

  • been in the United States for a long time, but  they just didn't really keep any records. On my  

  • dad's side, on the other hand, I have a, well, I  had a particularly detail-oriented grandmother who  

  • would remember everything about her childhood. She  went back and looked at, I don't even know how she  

  • found documents about where they came from. Her  family was in Germany, near, I can't remember,  

  • I think it's Hamburg, Hamburg. Grandpa was also  from somewhere in Germany, and both of them  

  • just happened to move to eastern Kansas, which  is if you've ever been to Kansas, it's just corn  

  • fields and that's it. It's not a very beautiful  place, but somehow they ended up in Kansas

  • Dan: My grandma would always give lots of details  

  • about growing up there on the farm and how they  didn't have electricity. She would go on about  

  • these stories about, this is how she would  talk, one time, me and my brother Bern,  

  • we went to the backyard and filled up  the tin bucket with hot boiling water,  

  • and he took all the hot water, Daniel. Vanessa

  • She remembered it was a tin bucket. Dan

  • Yeah, and it was cousin Bern, and it  was Uncle Freddie, people like that.  

  • I think her father's name was Freddie. Vanessa

  • Oh, that's her son's name. Dan

  • Yeah. I don't know how interesting  that is, but it's the only  

  • cultural knowledge I have about my past. The  other side of the family, they just, we lived  

  • in Virginia a long time ago, and my great  grandfather was a coal miner apparently so  

  • kind of interesting, I guess. Vanessa

  • Yeah. I think that's pretty cool though that  because in the US everyone has heritage from  

  • other places around the world and it gets lost  sometimes. In fact, that's what I was going to  

  • talk about too in a moment. That area in Kansas,  I remember your grandma saying that there were  

  • German-only churches. Dan

  • Oh yeah. Vanessa

  • So they would speak only GermanDid your grandma know any German

  • Dan: Very little. I don't think she knew a lot

  • Vanessa: I think that's kind of the generational thing,  

  • like her parents knew it. Dan

  • She's probably the last generation that spoke  German, or her parents were the last generation  

  • that spoke German. Vanessa

  • Yeah, but then for her she just understood  probably some German. That community was,  

  • for some reason, where lots of German people  moved to and that's where your family's from

  • Dan: Yeah. They went through a lot of  

  • really challenging cultural changes. There waslot of German mistrust and hate during that time,  

  • obviously, for reasons that we can understand. Vanessa

  • Political reasons. Dan

  • We were at war with Germany a lot, so I think  they were trying to scrub out a lot of the super  

  • German sounding things. Apparently our last  name was more German sounding at one point.  

  • I don't know how they said it, and speaking  German would certainly be one of those things

  • Vanessa: Yeah, so they tried to assimilate to  

  • life and that's similar to my ... Dan

  • Tell me about your family history. Vanessa

  • ...similar to the interesting point I wanted  to tell you about. My family history is that  

  • on my dad's side, my great  grandma and my great grandpa, they  

  • are from around the area of Naples, ItalyFirst, my great grandpa went on a boat,  

  • came to the US, married someone, had three kids. Dan

  • It was a good story. Vanessa

  • Then his wife died. Dan

  • Oh, that's the bad part. Vanessa

  • He had three kids and no wife and he's working,  I'm sure, a really difficult job. That was not a  

  • time when you could be a single father. Dan

  • This was in Pittsburgh, right? Vanessa

  • They were either in New York or Pittsburghbut by the time my great grandma came, they  

  • went to Pittsburgh. We're getting a little ahead  of ourselves. He wrote a letter to his mother who  

  • lived back in Italy, and he said, I need to find  a new wife. Can you help me to find a new wife  

  • from our hometown that will come here to live  with me and help take care of my three kids.  

  • His mom said, no problem. I'll find you a wife. I  got her. Here's her height. Here's her dimensions.  

  • Get a wedding dress for her. My great grandpa got  a wedding dress made in the US, the right size and  

  • everything for his future mysterious wife. We call  this a mail order bride. He basically ordered her  

  • in a letter like you would a package. Vanessa

  • I don't know what he did with his kidsbut he went to Italy, and as legend has it,  

  • one day he was in the house. They  were preparing things for the wedding,  

  • and he looked out the window and a woman walked  by, and he said, oh, that's the woman I want  

  • to marry. Dan

  • Who is that? Vanessa

  • Was that his mail order brideNope, that was my great-grandmother

  • Dan: Was it her sister? The original woman's sister

  • Vanessa: One of the legends is that  

  • it was his, well not his sister ... Dan

  • Adds to the drama. Vanessa

  • But my grandma clarified. This was her motherShe said, oh, he saw her outside the window

  • Dan: Just a random lady

  • Vanessa: Uh-huh. Well, this is all a little vague  

  • because this is going back quite some time. Dan

  • Excuse me, ma'am? Will you marry me?? Vanessa

  • Basically. She was taller than his other  supposed to be wife. He married her. Her name  

  • was Antoinette. He married her. She said, yes, I'm  going to move to the US with you, leave my family.  

  • She must have had a really tough situation, I  imagine. They were all farmers. I'm sure that  

  • was a really hard life, and that could give her  some hope for the future. In the wedding pictures,  

  • her dress is a little bit too short because  it was not supposed to be her dress. It was  

  • supposed to be the other lady's dress.  I'm glad that happened because otherwise  

  • I would not be here. Dan

  • That's Vanessa's origin story, really. Vanessa

  • Yeah. This lady, Antoinette, she moved to the  US. She had three kids and then her husband died,  

  • so she had six children in a new country. Crazy  story. She raised them. She's what we might call  

  • the matriarch of my dad's side of the family. Dan

  • Antoinette Manolfi. Vanessa

  • Everybody who is from that side of the  family knows her and reveres her. Oh,  

  • she was so amazing. Oh yeah, she just helped  us survive. We might say she was a survivor.  

  • She really went through a lot, and she  was the right person for the job because  

  • she made it work. Dan

  • Nice. Vanessa

  • Yeah. That's an interesting story about  my family. I'm sure everyone has those  

  • as well. I want to ask you the same  question. Let us know in the comments,  

  • what's an interesting story or an interesting  fact about your family history. We'd love to know.  

  • Let's go to question number two. This is about  childhood. I'd like to know what's something that  

  • you did as a child that you still do now. These  are kind of personal questions to start off with

  • Dan: Well, we laughed before  

  • this because she said everything. I am a little  bit, let's just say, youthful in my approach  

  • to life. That's the positive way to say it anywaySomething that I directly do, especially now,  

  • because I have kids, is catching critters. Vanessa

  • Oh yeah. Dan

  • Catching critters and keeping them. I would  say critters are generally small animals.  

  • When I was a kid, I spent, I would say 50%  of my life trying to catch frogs, lizards,  

  • grasshoppers, snakes, bugs of any  kind, and I would keep them in cages.  

  • I would use nets to catch butterflies, terrariumsaquariums, fish, anything like that. I caught and  

  • kept lots and lots of critters. There was probably  a five-year phase where we didn't do that very  

  • much. Funnily enough, even when we first got  married, and you're into this too, I don't know  

  • where she got this. Maybe it's infectious. Vanessa

  • We caught tad poles as kids. Dan

  • We would catch tad poles as just a married  couple. We'd go down to the pond and scoop  

  • in and get some mucky, gucky tad poles and watch  them change into frogs. It's the miracle of life

  • Vanessa: You know what? I have a  

  • distinct memory on our honeymoon, we were takinghike, and you saw, I think this was the first time  

  • I'd ever caught critters with you because,  I don't know, maybe when we were dating ... 

  • Dan: She didn't know what she was signing up for

  • Vanessa: Maybe when we were dating, we just  

  • weren't in those situations. I remember we were on  a hike and you were in a stream picking up rocks,  

  • and you were so excited. This is a good salamander  spot. There might be salamanders. Then you found  

  • one and I was so impressed. Dan

  • Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Vanessa

  • How did you find that salamander because I caught  tad poles maybe like every summer as a kid,  

  • but I never caught salamanders or whole frogs or  fish. We had nets and caught fireflies and stuff,  

  • but I think you take it to the next level. Dan

  • Yeah. Especially as a kid, I took it to  the next level. One time I caught a five  

  • foot snake. I didn't even know what kind  it was, I just reached into the bushes.  

  • I didn't grab it the right way. I was like  swinging it through the air. That was probably  

  • the dumbest thing I ever did honestly catching  critters as a child. It extends beyond that too.  

  • I've always liked keeping fish. I love making fish  tanks and the environments. Obviously you can do  

  • that for frogs and reptiles. I have big dreams  for my son because he's also very into this

  • Vanessa: Oh yeah.  

  • He is crazed about his net and catching stuff. He  just loves that. I mean it's treasures in nature

  • Dan: Soon enough,  

  • our house will turn into a menagerie of critters. Vanessa

  • I just have one rule. I would ... Dan

  • Scorpions. Vanessa

  • I don't mind keeping frogs and lizards and fish. Dan

  • Snakes? Vanessa

  • But I don't want to keep any snakes. Dan

  • Oh, come on. Vanessa

  • I know a lot of snakes are harmless ... Dan

  • They're cute. Vanessa

  • ... but I would rather the snakes live  under our shed than live in our house

  • Dan: That's more dangerous

  • Vanessa: Well, if they're not poisonous.  

  • If they're not venomous, then they can catch  rats and catch things and keep our chicken safe,  

  • that type of thing. Dan

  • That's what snakes do? Vanessa

  • Yeah. A lot of chickens ... Dan

  • They protect chickens. Vanessa

  • Yeah. A lot of people, and this  is getting a little deep ... 

  • Dan: Are chickens critters

  • Vanessa: I don't  

  • this so. When I think of a critter, I think of  crawling, like something that goes like k-k-k-k,  

  • like a little crawly thing. Dan

  • Am I a critter? Vanessa

  • That's a good question. I was going to say some  people, we have chickens, you might have seen  

  • this on our YouTube channel before, some people  purposefully have a rat snake or a black snake,  

  • a garter snake that lives in their chicken  coop, and they eat like one egg per  

  • two weeks or something. They don't eat that much. Dan

  • Is that good? Vanessa

  • They do it for protection. They're keeping rats  away. They're keeping other things away from the  

  • coop. There's a whole, let me tell you ... Dan

  • You want me to bring snakes into  our family, well, but outside

  • Vanessa: As long as they are outside,  

  • that's okay. I don't want snakes in my house. Dan

  • I have lots of good stories about snakes in  the house. One snake escaped in the house

  • Vanessa: Oh, don't tell me that

  • Dan: My mom found it under the couch months later  

  • and it was dead. Vanessa

  • Oh no. Yeah. Dan

  • It was one of those classic situations of  mom screams in the other room, and we're  

  • like what? What? Vanessa

  • You kids have that snake in here

  • Dan: Daniel,  

  • gee, what is this thing? That's what she'd say. Vanessa

  • Well, do you want to share also while we're  on this topic, your first memory, the frog

  • Dan: Oh my very first memory

  • Vanessa: Yes. This will drill in the point that Dan  

  • loves critters. Dan

  • Yeah. I caught a toad probably when I was  two years old and I was, for some reason,  

  • holding it off my deck and I dropped it down into  the bushes. I remember thinking, no, my toad. Then  

  • I went down to look for it and I couldn't find it. Vanessa

  • This is Dan's first memory in life. Dan

  • Yeah, literally one, at least as far as I know. Vanessa

  • Well, there you go. Dan

  • Yeah. That's the point of it? Vanessa

  • A lifetime of catching critters started  at a young age. Well, I think ... 

  • Dan: Yeah. How about you

  • Vanessa: For me

  • Dan: What do you still do besides catching  

  • lots of critters? Vanessa

  • I do catch tad poles still. That's fun. I  think the thing that first came to my mind,  

  • and I tried to think about just like the first  thing that came to my mind for each of these, is  

  • when I was a kid I loved to dig in the dirtMy sister and I had two best friends who lived  

  • right across the street, and we spent hours in  the backyard just digging in the dirt. We built  

  • things in the dirt. We had little inventions. We  made homes in the dirt. We did so many things.  

  • Now I dig in the dirt, but I call it gardening. Dan

  • I think we have the wrong YouTube channelWe just need to be covered in mud with like  

  • snakes and gardening. Vanessa

  • Maybe that will be YouTube channel ... Dan

  • Number two. Vanessa

  • Number two, Dan catches critters and  Vanessa digs in the dirt and gardens.  

  • I remember when I was in seventh grade at schoolwe had a class, I think it was Home Ec., which  

  • is like home economics. You learn about cookingand sewing, and those types of things. There was  

  • a hygiene section where you learned how to take  care of your hair, how to take care of your nails.  

  • I remember specifically ... Dan

  • How to take care of your nails? Vanessa

  • I know. Dan

  • There's a class about that? Vanessa

  • Well, it was like how to, I don't know, some  people maybe don't learn that at home, like how  

  • to trim your nails and stuff. This lady was one  of those people that as a middle schooler, most  

  • middle schoolers just roll their eyes at, likeoh, you think I'm going to do that? Oh, I'm not  

  • going to be like you, but she was our teacher. She  was telling us how to clean our nails and paint  

  • them in this type of thing. I remember asking ... Dan

  • Was it for ladies only? Vanessa

  • Yeah, we were split by gender, so there was boys  in one class, girls in the other just for Home  

  • Ec. I remember her saying how to clean  your nails and make them look nice. I  

  • remember asking in the class, I said, but  what if I always have dirt under my nails

  • Dan: You raised your hands and asked that

  • Vanessa: I asked that question. I was so  

  • naive. I always have dirt under my nails. I can't  get them clean like that. She looked at me like,  

  • what? Like I had three heads on my head. WhatWhy would you have dirt under your nails? You're  

  • a seventh grade girl. I think after that ... Dan

  • Be proper. Vanessa

  • ... maybe when I was in eighth grade or sohad a phase where I stopped playing in the dirt  

  • and did other things. Now I have come full  circle and well, I took a shower recently,  

  • so my nails are actually clean, but they're  almost always full of dirt. Just like our kids

  • Dan: I'm sure you put in more  

  • effort to get the dirt out now. Vanessa

  • Yeah. Kind of. Sometimes it works, sometimes  it doesn't, but I have the same mindset as a  

  • seventh grader of, well, my hands aren't  going to be completely clean because ... 

  • Dan: You really do

  • Vanessa: ... I was just playing in the dirt.  

  • What's the matter with that? Dan

  • If you look at Vanessa's wardrobe,  I have more clothes than her  

  • half the time. Vanessa

  • I don't really care about those kind of things. Dan

  • Yeah. She's not you're a typical girly  girl. Let's put it that way. A girly girl

  • Vanessa: That's okay

  • Dan: That's my sister.  

  • Maybe we'll talk about her later. Vanessa

  • Okay. All right. Well, let's go to our next  question. But before we do that, I want to ask  

  • you, what is something that you did in childhood  that you still do now? Let us know in the  

  • comments. All right. Let's go to question number  three. Question number three is about hobbies.  

  • I'd like to know if you could wake up tomorrow  and magically have any kind of education,  

  • talent, or skill set, what would it be? Dan

  • Education or skill? Vanessa

  • Yeah, this is very broad. Dan

  • Yes. Well, when I think skill, I mean, I  think that I would want to be, and this is  

  • a little stereotypical, an athlete of some kindparticularly a hockey player. When you are playing  

  • a sport and you really like that sport, you get  into the flow and you just live in that moment  

  • and you just have so much fun. I can remember  as a kid, one time I scored a goal to win the  

  • game in hockey, and that's just the greatest  feeling ever. Now, if you add to that, a big  

  • stadium full of fans cheering your name ... Amegotistical? I don't know. That would just be the  

  • ultimate thrill to score a goal and hear everybody  cheering. I would say, yeah, either an athlete of  

  • some kind or a performer. I think you get the same  kind of feeling if you are acting, if you're maybe  

  • a standup comedian and you're making people laugh. Dan

  • Even to a certain degree, I think  being a really great teacher,  

  • being a really great teacher probably gives you  that same kind of feeling of you're performing  

  • and bringing value and people are entertainedIf I were to have like, I wasn't thinking so much  

  • education, I was thinking more skills, so I would  wake up tomorrow and I'd be the best hockey player  

  • on earth. Vanessa

  • Wow. Dan

  • Maybe that'd be a little bit boring  just beating everybody right and left.  

  • I'm sure you still have to work thoughYeah, I'd have great athletic prowess

  • Vanessa: Cool

  • Dan: How about you? What would you  

  • want to wake up tomorrow with? Vanessa

  • Well, I said something a little bit stereotypical  too. I had my primary answer and then  

  • a maybe cheat answer. I think ifcould wake up tomorrow with a skill,  

  • maybe I said something a little more realistic.  I said, I'd like to be able to play the ukulele  

  • really well. Dan

  • The ukulele? Vanessa

  • I don't play the ukulele. I play the flute. I  don't know. I just thought if I could have a  

  • cool skill, I mean, that's something that I could  take outside. I could be playing while the kids  

  • are playing. Dan

  • This is a very humble dream. Vanessa

  • Maybe it is. I didn't want to think for  too long about this. I wanted to give you  

  • my initial response. Yeah, I think it would be  cool. A guitar is pretty big to take somewhere.  

  • A piano would be amazing, but it's not quite as  portable. I just feel like sometimes when you're,  

  • I had this image, like you're sitting around  a bonfire and the sun setting and you're just  

  • chatting with your friends, just having a ukulele  and playing some music, oh, that just brings the  

  • atmosphere to a very warm place. Dan

  • You could play Wheels On the Bus for our children. Vanessa

  • I could maybe play Wheels  On the Bus in five minutes

  • Dan: That's the first song that comes to my  

  • head. The version we listen to, It's like  do, do, do, do, and I just hear ukulele

  • Vanessa: Yeah. Well, if you  

  • play the ukulele and you have any recommendationslet me know in the comments, but my cheat answer,  

  • because I wasn't sure if it was a skillset orcharacter trait, but I said unlimited patience.  

  • If I could wake up in the morning ... Dan

  • That's an education. Vanessa

  • ... and oh, I guess you can learn patience. Ifcould have unlimited patience with my children,  

  • that would be amazing, and with myself. Dan

  • They'd get away with you too much though. Vanessa

  • I don't know. I think you can be firm and also be  patient. It doesn't mean you have no standards,  

  • but I think that I would, yeah, just be able to  be a little bit, I think you're always a better  

  • parent when you are more patient. Dan

  • They certainly test the patience. Vanessa

  • Yes. Unlimited patience would be awesome. What  about you? If you could wake up tomorrow and have  

  • any education, talent, or skill set, what would  it be? Would it be speaking English fluently,  

  • or maybe it would be something else. Let us know  in the comments. Let's go to question number four.  

  • Question number four is about travel. I'd like  to know where is the next place in the US that  

  • you'd like to visit? Dan

  • Oh, I've got to travel in the US? Vanessa

  • Yeah. I wanted it to be a little more  specific and it might be interesting to  

  • some of our international students  to learn about places in the US

  • Dan: I'm joking because there are a lot of amazing  

  • places in the US, but I really love international  cities like Europe and Asia. I just think they're  

  • so interesting. Vanessa

  • I know. Dan

  • But the US has lots of beautiful natural  environments, so I would probably travel  

  • to Washington or Oregon. Vanessa

  • You know what? Dan

  • You'd say the same thing. Vanessa

  • My first answer was the northwest, Seattlethat area, Oregon, and I crossed it off

  • Dan: Did you think that I was going to say that

  • Vanessa: No, I thought of somewhere  

  • I would rather visit first. Dan

  • Oh, I'm with you. Okay. Vanessa

  • I'd like to go there too. Dan

  • Yeah. The Pacific northwest because I've never  been there and it just looks so stunningly  

  • beautiful there, at least for part of the yearIt has really big mountains and really dense green  

  • forests, and it has the ocean as well. I really  love a landscape that has lots of rocky features,  

  • but also the ocean. That's one of my favorite  kinds of landscapes. I would probably go there,  

  • and it has really cool cities too. Seattle is  a really awesome city and you could jump up,  

  • I mean I've never been there, but it looks really  cool, and you can jump up to Vancouver as well  

  • and get that full Pacific northwest experienceThat's where I would choose. I could do lots of  

  • outdoorsy stuff. I could see a different side of  the country and even do some urban things as well

  • Vanessa: Yeah. That sounds like a fun place. In fact,  

  • one of my options too. Dan

  • Yeah. What did you choose instead? Vanessa

  • Well, I thought about that. Dan

  • Wait, let me guess. Grand Canyon. Vanessa

  • Close. Dan

  • New Mexico. Vanessa

  • A little more general. Dan

  • Arizona. Vanessa

  • I said I want to rent an RV and have a big  tour of the west, southwest, national parks

  • Dan: Oh this is a regional thing

  • Vanessa: Yeah, because there's so many  

  • amazing national parks in the west, southwestnot even southwest, but just the west of the US.  

  • I think that would be an awesome two month journey  where you say I'm going to book a bunch of camping  

  • places and you're not having to like tent camp.  I think that might be a little too intense for us  

  • for two months, but in an RV with ... Vanessa

  • ... Were intense for us for two months. Butin an RV, it would still be in cool locations,  

  • maybe closer to the national parksand you get to see a lot. Because,  

  • two months ago, we went to Coloradoin Colorado Springs and I'd never seen  

  • the Rocky Mountains or that area of the U.S.  And I was blown away. It is so beautiful. Yeah,  

  • I've been reading some books about that area  of the U.S., and historical fiction about the  

  • history there. And yeah, I'm fascinated. I think  that would be really cool to check out some of  

  • the history, check out some beautiful placesWe like hiking, so it seems like a good fit

  • Dan: Yeah. And it's very different  

  • from where we live now. Vanessa

  • Yeah. Surprisingly, so. Dan

  • Yeah. So, I chose the wettest part of  the country and you chose the driest

  • Vanessa: Yeah. Yeah. I think  

  • that was really shocking to me, when we  went to Colorado. It's super dry there.  

  • And I've been in dry climates before- Dan

  • And, Arizona is way drier. Vanessa

  • ... Oh, I bet. Yeah, there's deserts there. Dan

  • Mm-hmm. Vanessa

  • But I feel like, being somewhere  like that, even though the U.S.  

  • is the same country, it feels so differentthat it does feel like you've gone almost into  

  • a different world when you visit different  climates like that and different geography

  • Dan: It is very  

  • easily could be many countries. Vanessa

  • Oh, it could very easily be. Dan

  • Maybe it should be. Vanessa

  • Many countries. So, I want to know for you, if  you live in the U.S. or if you got the chance to  

  • visit the U.S., where would you like to visitWhere's the first place that you would like to go  

  • if you got to come to the U.S.? Let us know in the  comments. And, let's go to question number four. I  

  • actually meant question number five. Dan

  • Whoops. Vanessa

  • So question number five, the topic is food. Dan

  • Yes. Vanessa

  • Something that we love. I would  like to know what is a food from  

  • your travels, our travels, that  you wish you could have again

  • Dan: Man, this is the hardest question,  

  • because we've had so many delicious meals in our  travels. And we just love different food as well

  • Vanessa: Yeah

  • Dan: And this is very tied up in nostalgia for me too,  

  • because we lived in South Korea for three yearsAnd, the meals were so different from America,  

  • and distinct, and we actually enjoyed them. Sonow I can't get them the same way. So, if you  

  • go to a Korean restaurant in America, you're going  to spend a lot more to get something that isn't as  

  • probably as quality as what you'd get there. Vanessa

  • It's a different atmosphere, all of that. Dan

  • So I had a tough decision to make. So, I chose  a meal called [foreign language 00:27:46]. 

  • Vanessa: Okay

  • Dan: Which means three layered flesh in Korean

  • Vanessa: Thick bacon, basically

  • Dan: It's bacon. It's thick bacon. But,  

  • you would cook this on a grill in front of you  in a restaurant with lots of people and you'd  

  • hit a little bell and it goes dingdong. And then  waitress says, " [foreign language 00:28:05]." And  

  • she fills up your water. It's more a whole  experience than just the food. But if

  • Vanessa: If you finish your side dishes, they'll bring you  

  • endless amounts of other side dishes. Dan

  • ... Yes. Endless side dishes. So, it's not really  just one thing, it's more of the whole experience.  

  • And it has a lot of nostalgia for us, because you  can't really get the same thing here. You can,  

  • but it's just not quite the same. Vanessa

  • Yeah. Dan

  • And it was always delicious, especially in  South Korea. Even us, relatively thin people,  

  • we lost weight when we went to South Koreabecause it's just way less rich food in general,  

  • compared to American diets. And, we didn't have  very much money, so we didn't eat this all the  

  • time. We just ate it sometimes. So, that was  always a winner. And, I have to add another one,  

  • because we have traveled in Europe as wellAnd, technically this meal is tastier,  

  • I'm thinking of... Can you guess? Vanessa

  • Cinque Terre. Dan

  • Yep. Vanessa

  • Cinque Terre. Dan

  • Yes. There was a seafood meal we ate in Cinque  Terre that had... I don't even remember what we  

  • ate, fish, pasta. Vanessa

  • I had a octopus. Dan

  • Amazing wine. Vanessa

  • And pasta meat thing. Yeah. Dan

  • Yes. Vanessa

  • Crazy. Dan

  • And, that was also a good vibe. Nostalgic  experience. Because, when I think back to it, we  

  • did a lot of beautiful hikes on that trip. And  then, we ended in the last little town and ate at  

  • that restaurant and it was really delicious. Vanessa

  • Yeah. Dan

  • So, it all worked out perfectly. Vanessa

  • Even if we go back there, it will be a different  vibe and different feel, because like you said,  

  • I think, food is really tied to nostalgia. Sothe atmosphere and you can't just eat the food  

  • separately from anything else. Dan

  • Bing bong. Vanessa

  • Yeah. We don't have bells on  the table to call the waitress

  • Dan: If you're Korean and watching this,  

  • you're like, "What's the big deal about that?" Vanessa

  • But for us- Dan

  • But for us, it's just so, "This is so funny and-" 

  • Vanessa: ... It was so great. And yeah,  

  • we love that experience. Dan

  • ... Yes. Vanessa

  • Mine is- Dan

  • So how about you? Yes. Vanessa

  • ... Very similar. In fact, yeah- Dan

  • Was it the same meal? Vanessa

  • ... No, I thought about saying, not specifically  some [inaudible 00:30:22], but just eating  

  • outside. It's basically on a sidewalk, there's  little plastic tables and you're cooking this  

  • type of thing that Dan's talking about. But, the  one that I thought about was also in Korea because  

  • there's a lot of nostalgia. Dan

  • Is it [inaudible 00:30:37]? Vanessa

  • I almost said [inaudible 00:30:39]. Dan

  • I thought that too. Vanessa

  • I almost said [inaudible 00:30:40]. Dan

  • It's not always the best foodbut the environment was perfect

  • Vanessa: Yeah. But what I said also because I like  

  • the food so much is a meal called dak-galbi. Dan

  • Oh. Vanessa

  • And, there was a restaurant specifically the  restaurant that we went to often in Incheon, which  

  • was the city we lived in for the first two years  in Korea. And, our first week living there, it was  

  • my birthday in September. And, we went there  with a bunch of new friends. And, I had never  

  • eaten something like this before, where we sat  at a table, and they had a burner on the table,  

  • and they had all the ingredients  there, and it was uncooked chicken,  

  • cabbage, rice cakes, all of these thingscarrots, the sauce. It was all in this thing. And,  

  • the person who was the server was helping to- Dan

  • She tossed it up. Vanessa

  • ... Helping to cook it. And we were  all just sitting there and watching  

  • it. It's very different from an American  hibachi experience. That's a similar  

  • experience or similar idea where someone is  cooking in front of you, but this was different,  

  • much more casual. Dan

  • Yeah. Vanessa

  • And I remember sitting there for my  birthday, surrounded by all these  

  • new friends, in a new city, eating this food that  I thought was so exciting, and they're cooking it  

  • in front of us. And it is amazingly delicious. Dan

  • Mm-hmm. It was very yummy. Vanessa

  • And, that place is, yeah, full of so many  memories. So, whenever someone came to visit us  

  • from the U.S., or we made a new friend, we would  always go to that restaurant. And then, the third  

  • year we lived in South Korea, we moved tocity called Suan, which is about an hour away.  

  • And, after that year, that restaurant closed. No. Dan

  • No. Vanessa

  • So, when this question says, something  you wish you could try again,  

  • this will always be just a wish. Dan

  • I'm sure that lady opened up  another restaurant, right

  • Vanessa: I hope so. I  

  • hope she is world renowned as amazing dak-galbi  restaurant, because we had dak-galbi also in Suan,  

  • and that was nice. That lady was super niceWe talked through Google translate a lot

  • Dan: Yeah. Their dak-galbi was good too

  • Vanessa: Yeah, but there something about  

  • that first place that really- Dan

  • It had the nostalgia. Vanessa

  • ... It has a special place in my  heart. So, that's what I would say

  • Dan: It is funny though,  

  • we would take Korean people there and  they'd be like, "Yeah, it's pretty good." 

  • Vanessa: But for us, that was

  • Dan: We're like, "This is so awesome." 

  • Vanessa: ... So fun. Yeah. Anyway, you can see,  

  • we get very excited about food. Now, maybe I know  why our children are also excited about food.  

  • They're crazed about food, so. Dan

  • It's because their kids. Vanessa

  • Yeah. But some kids are very picky. Dan

  • Well, that's true. Yeah, they do  like more food than average kids

  • Vanessa: Our kids love all this type of stuff  

  • just as passionately as us. All right. So I havequestion for you. What is a food from your travels  

  • that you wish you could have again? It might be  because it was good. It might be because of the  

  • vibe, and the atmosphere, and the memories, the  nostalgia, like what we talked about. Let us know  

  • in the comments what food you wish you could have  again, and we'll learn about food from around the  

  • world. All right, let's go to the next questionquestion number six. I think we're on six

  • Dan: Yeah

  • Vanessa: All right, question number six.  

  • Question number six is about nature. This  is maybe a little silly of a question,  

  • but that's okay. Dan

  • We like critters, so that's okay. Vanessa

  • Yeah, as you can tell. So, this question is, if  you could have any defense mechanism of an animal,  

  • what would you have? So if you could  have that type of defense mechanism  

  • in your body or become you- Dan

  • In my body. Vanessa

  • ... Yes. What would it be? So can we maybe  explain quickly what a defense mechanism is

  • Dan: Yeah, sure. So, a  

  • defense mechanism is something that an animal has  or uses a feature that protects it from predators

  • Vanessa: Yeah

  • Dan: Or is a way to either get the predator  

  • to go away or escape the predator. Vanessa

  • So maybe quills on a porcupine, something like  this. And we can even say humans have a defense  

  • mechanism. We might use that emotionally. Dan

  • Oh yeah. Vanessa

  • To say, "Oh, why is he always making jokes?"  It's actually a defense mechanism because  

  • he experienced a lot of trauma in his  life, and joking, and laughing helps him to  

  • not feel so vulnerable. Dan

  • Yeah. Vanessa

  • Or something like this. It's a more of an  emotional thing. So you can have a defense  

  • mechanism as a human, but I want to know, insilly way, if you could imagine having an animal's  

  • defense mechanism, what would it be? Dan

  • Mine would be... This is  a little bit of a cop out

  • Vanessa: Okay

  • Dan: Flying

  • Vanessa: Oh

  • Dan: Because now we don't really  

  • associate flying with just defense, but  it can certainly be used as a defense,  

  • so a bird will fly away when you come near it. And  we were talking about it earlier and saying that  

  • flying probably evolved as a defense mechanism for  an animal to get out of the way from a predator  

  • really efficiently and effectively. Vanessa

  • Yeah, I almost said flying too for this one. Dan

  • Yeah. Vanessa

  • It's a good one. Dan

  • So, I mean, but who doesn't want to fly? Vanessa

  • Yeah. Dan

  • I mean, of course then you  have to be really lightweight  

  • and you're probably not very intimidatingAnd then, you have to be a bat or a bird

  • Vanessa: You could be an Eagle

  • Dan: But, if I could still be me and fly,  

  • then I would choose that. Vanessa

  • Yeah, just imagine, you're walking down a dark  alley, I don't know why you're walking down a  

  • dark alley, and then somebody dangerous  steps out and all of a sudden your wings  

  • open up and you fly away. Dan

  • Ooh, they pop out of my back like an angel. Vanessa

  • That's it. Yeah, that's it. I think there's  some X-Men or superhero or something  

  • that does that. Dan

  • Oh, yeah, probably. We  don't know about that stuff

  • Dan: Bird man

  • Vanessa: Bird man. Is that a- 

  • Dan: Or Batman, squawk man

  • Vanessa: ... Eagle man

  • Dan: Eagle man

  • Vanessa: Okay

  • Dan: Raven man. Robin man.  

  • Robin. Vanessa

  • California condo man. Dan

  • Blue bird man. Vanessa

  • These are all the birds we know. Okay, well- Dan

  • And we're not into superheroes, so. Vanessa

  • ... Flying is a good one. I almost said thatAnd you know what? I think, I have something  

  • different I'd like to share. But, I think for me  actually flying is probably more realistic. Not  

  • like I can actually fly, but because if I'm faced  with danger, I'm probably more likely to flee

  • Dan: Oh, yeah

  • Vanessa: Than to fight. So, we call this fight or flight.  

  • When you're in a dangerous situation, either  dangerous physically or dangerous emotionally,  

  • we say, "Oh, your fight or flight kicks in."  

  • So, either you fight and you try  to win or you flee. So, that's- 

  • Dan: Run away

  • Vanessa: ... The flight part. You're not actually flying,  

  • but maybe you try to run away from that dangerous  situation. And I think for me, that's more true.  

  • I'm more likely to run away from danger. Dan

  • Lady folk, in general. Vanessa

  • But I said something dinner... DinnerDifferent. I said something different

  • Dan: Food is still on her mind

  • Vanessa: Oh, food. I said something  

  • different. I said, a horny toad, which is actually  a type of lizard. A horny toad has something very  

  • interesting that they do. They, when faced with  danger can stop their blood flow to their heart.  

  • Their blood fills up in them and they shoot  blood out of their eyes at their aggressor. What

  • Dan: Into their aggressor's eyes

  • Vanessa: At least at their aggressor. And the blood  

  • isn't venomous or anything like this, it's just  shocking. So, I thought it would be hilarious

  • Dan: That would shock me

  • Vanessa: If, "Oh, hi, I'm Vanessa. Nice Vanessa."  

  • And then, somebody is a bad person and I just  went bzz and shot blood out my eyes at them

  • Dan: Yeah

  • Vanessa: I think it would be so shocking  

  • that I could be saved. Dan

  • Sure. Vanessa

  • But, maybe flying is something I would  realistically be more likely to do.  

  • Oh, I probably would fly away instead of  fighting. But, shooting blood out of your  

  • eyes if you're in danger? Dan

  • It's not going to win you a lot of dates. Vanessa

  • No. Dan

  • "Hey, baby." Vanessa

  • "Look what I can do." Yeah, but isn't that crazythat it's actually a lizard, but the horn toad  

  • can shoot blood out of its eyes? How in the world

  • Dan: And how does that even help it

  • Vanessa: ... Did even nature decide to do this

  • Dan: I don't know

  • Vanessa: I mean, it must be  

  • in danger in some ways that it goes away, it makes  stuff go away because of that. Anyway, crazy, so

  • Dan: The animal is just so disgusted,  

  • it doesn't want to eat it. Vanessa

  • I know. "You got blood shooting out of your eyesWhat?" So, I want to know for you, if you could  

  • have any animal's defense mechanism, what would it  be? There are many crazy things out there. There  

  • are ants that shoot acid, there are porcupines  that have quills. This is a great way to expand  

  • your vocabulary in a fun way. If you would likeyou can type into Google amazing animal defense  

  • mechanisms. And you'll see many lists of cool  things that animals do if you like that stuff.  

  • So I want to know, let me know in the commentswhat would you like to defend yourself with?  

  • All right, let's go to our next question. Dan

  • "Caw." Vanessa

  • Question number seven is about holidays.  

  • The question is, what is your favorite holiday  tradition? And I have a feeling that we might  

  • have the same one. Dan

  • We had to have. Vanessa

  • So do you want to say it at the same time? Dan

  • Yeah. Vanessa

  • On three? Dan

  • Yes. Vanessa

  • Okay. 3, 2, 1, Dan

  • Christmas tree. Vanessa

  • Decorating the Christmas tree. Dan

  • Yes. Decorating the Christmas tree. Vanessa

  • Yeah. Okay. Why don't you explain first? Why  do you like decorating the Christmas tree

  • Dan: Man. There's probably  

  • a lot of reasons. One primary reason is that  this is a tradition that our family always did

  • Vanessa: Mm-hmm

  • Dan: So it has a lot of nostalgia tied up into it.  

  • And we don't have a lot of other traditions that  our family always did. So there's Thanksgiving,  

  • which is, you have a meal and you talk about  what you're thankful for. And that's another  

  • big one. But, maybe it's just because you  put presents under a tree that, as a kid,  

  • you just can't get enough of Christmas. Vanessa

  • And now? Dan

  • Yes. And now, I really enjoy picking outChristmas tree. We're really nature-y. So,  

  • we get a real Christmas tree and I like the  smell of the pine. It just hits all of the  

  • right senses and feelings. And then, you get  to decorate it. So, your kids are excited,  

  • and you get to hang up all the stuff, and put  up the lights, and there's a whole process. And,  

  • it's funny because it's probably the most  useless thing that we do, but it's one of  

  • the best things. Vanessa

  • Yeah. I think, even before we had  kids, this was a big deal for us

  • Dan: Of course

  • Vanessa: In our marriage,  

  • because yeah, it's something that you do with  your parents growing up. And then, for us,  

  • when we got married and we started doing  that with each other, it felt like,  

  • "Oh, this is our new life. This is usWe're doing this together." And you're

  • Dan: We're starting the new generation

  • Vanessa: ... Yeah, our new traditions. We're doing this in  

  • our own way. Yeah, it felt different. I said that  for me, because when I was a kid, we didn't have a  

  • real Christmas tree, we had a fake tree. But even  in that, I was so excited about it. First of all,  

  • I'll set the stage, my mom popped popcorn. So, we  ate popcorn and it smelled great. We listened to  

  • Christmas music. Dan

  • Always good. Vanessa

  • And then, we all sat in the living  room, and because we had a fake tree,  

  • there's different fake trees, but the kind we  had, there was a stem in the middle and it had  

  • different holes and you could hook the branches  in and the branches had different colored rings  

  • on them, so you could see the big ones are on the  bottom. But, because these were closed in a box  

  • the entire year, they were flat. So, we  would all sit around the Christmas tree,  

  • bending the branches to look realistic. So, we  would bend each of the little branches on it and  

  • then put it in. And we'd look at each other's and  say, "Oh, that one doesn't look good." Or, "Oh,  

  • that was really great." Dan

  • This is all blasphemy to me. Vanessa

  • Because you always had a real tree. Dan

  • It had to be real. Vanessa

  • And then we- Dan

  • If there's not a fire hazard in your living room,  

  • it's not Christmas. Vanessa

  • ... Yeah, that's a big reason why we hadfake tree is because when my dad was a kid,  

  • they had a real tree. Dan

  • Oh, yeah. Vanessa

  • Maybe for one Christmas, I don't remember  if it was for longer than that. And they had  

  • a train set going around it so they could turn  on the electric train and it would go around the  

  • bottom of the Christmas tree, not in the branchesbut just on the ground, and it caught fire

  • Dan: Oh

  • Vanessa: And my dad said one of his first memories  

  • is him as a little kid, getting a cup of water and  throwing it on the Christmas tree fire. This is  

  • huge hazard. And there's so many warnings. Dan

  • I mean, I don't think so much anymore. Vanessa

  • Yeah, this is a big deal. Dan

  • Christmas trees are safe. Vanessa

  • Christmas trees are not safe, because they say  now, I think it's more known now that you should  

  • always keep water, so you have the Christmas tree  that's cut and you put it in a little basin of  

  • water, and if there's not water in there, the tree  will dry out and it will catch fire really easily.  

  • But, if it's filled with water, then the tree  is hydrated and it won't catch fire as easily

  • Dan: But also, 60s electronics, versus

  • Vanessa: Okay. That's true

  • Dan: ... Today's electronics. They're not  

  • going to catch fire the same way. Vanessa

  • Yeah. Dan

  • Probably. Vanessa

  • Yeah. Dan

  • Christmas trees are safe and the best. Vanessa

  • Dan loves Christmas trees. So, I rememberyeah, we would do that, and then we would  

  • decorate the tree. And my mom always had one  ornament, which I now have that was the first  

  • ornament we put on the tree. Dan

  • Which one was that? Vanessa

  • It's the ball that has lots of  little beads on it. And it's got

  • Dan: Ball with beads

  • Vanessa: ... Ribbons, and knots, and stuff on it.  

  • We have it. Dan

  • Well, I love Christmas trees and  I can't remember this ornament

  • Vanessa: Oh, well it's in our house

  • Dan: That's good. It'll be refreshing  

  • this year to see it later. Vanessa

  • And, she put that on the tree and that  signified, we can start to decorate the tree.  

  • So yeah, we would decorate the tree together  and it was just a nice time to do that

  • Dan: How did you guys sit back and not decorate  

  • the tree right away? Our children are like,  "Bah, get all the stuff. Put it on right away." 

  • Vanessa: Yeah, we did the ornaments. We  

  • were busy doing the branches. Dan

  • Maybe because it's two girls versus two boys. Vanessa

  • I don't know. But, we did it and it was  fun. And I remember when we got married,  

  • that was my first real Christmas tree. We  went to a place and got a real tree and

  • Dan: That was your first

  • Vanessa: ... Yeah

  • Dan: Oh, we got the little one

  • Vanessa: We got a little tree. Yeah

  • Dan: That we planted later

  • Vanessa: Oh, yeah

  • Dan: That's another thing you can do  

  • sometimes in America, but it's more difficult. Vanessa

  • Yeah, you can get it with the root ball on  the bottom. The first year we were married

  • Dan: It's a lot heavier

  • Vanessa: ... Oh my goodness, it was  

  • so heavy. I remember it took three of us. Dan

  • It was three feet tall. Vanessa

  • Me, you, and your brother to take it  

  • out of the car and drag it into our house. Dan

  • Mm-hmm (affirmative). Vanessa

  • Because it was so big, but we wanted to plant it  later, we didn't want to just cut a tree down. So,  

  • we got this tree with a root ballbut ever since then, we've just gotten  

  • a cut tree, and put it in our house, and  decorated it. And yeah, it's a lot of fun

  • Dan: Always a happy time

  • Vanessa: Yeah. Well, I want to know for you, what is  

  • your favorite holiday tradition? It might not be  about Christmas. It could be about any holiday.  

  • But, I want to know about your experience. Let us  know in the comments, what's your favorite holiday  

  • tradition? And we'll go on to our next questionQuestion number nine is about sports and exercise.  

  • What is the most recent sport that you did? Dan

  • Well, this happened just about a week ago  actually. And it's the first time I ever did this  

  • outdoors. It was rock climbing. Is  this a sport? I guess, it's a sport

  • Vanessa: It's considered exercise

  • Dan: Yeah. And so, my brother-in-law is,  

  • let's just say, obsessed with rock climbing. Andhe's gotten pretty good at it lately. And so,  

  • he met us in between where he lives and  us. We live about eight hours away. And,  

  • we were in West Virginia, which has actually a lot  of good rock climbing. And we chose a spot and he  

  • had all the gear, he's got the ropes, he's got  the shoes, he's got the backpacks, he's got the  

  • harness, and all this stuff. And he actually...  Oh the helmet too. Don't forget the helmet.  

  • And, he geared me up to do it. And, I  was actually pretty nervous about it,  

  • and not because I'm afraid of heights actuallyhe's more scared of Heights than I am.  

  • I think it's funny that he likes doing this  so much. He says every single time he does it,  

  • he's scared. Vanessa

  • Oh. Dan

  • Yeah. Vanessa

  • Interesting. Dan

  • But I'm not afraid of heights, so I wasn't really  worried about that. I probably should have been  

  • more worried about it. Vanessa

  • What were you worried about? Dan

  • I'm a perfectionist, or a completionist. Soit really bothers me if I try something and I  

  • can't finish it. Vanessa

  • Ah, so you wanted to be  able to make it to the top

  • Dan: So, I knew I could probably do some easy stuff,  

  • but he's a lot better than I am. So, I knew  that he would be wanting to move on to something  

  • more challenging. And, I didn't really know ifwanted to have to just watch, or try it and only  

  • get partway. In the end, I did do that. So, the  first one was a easy one. I don't think it was

  • Vanessa: I'll show you a picture here of Dan  

  • making it all the way to the top. Yes. Dan

  • ... Yes. So, I do naturally have a good body type  for climbing. I'm lightweight. I climb a lot of  

  • trees. I like to hike and do all that stuff. So, I  can figure it out. But, the hand strength is just  

  • on another level to rock climb. Vanessa

  • Yeah. Dan

  • And so, I did the easier one and I made it to the  top. But, all the other ones, I made it partway.  

  • And, I actually remember, we were with  another guy too, his name was Jim. And,  

  • Jim was really inspiring, because... And don't  worry, this was totally safe. There was a rope  

  • tied to the very top. They call it top climbingTop rope? I don't remember the terms. There's a  

  • lot of terms in rock climbing. Vanessa

  • Yeah. Dan

  • And so, he was tied to the top and if you fall  that will catch you right away and it's not a  

  • big deal. Vanessa

  • Yeah. Dan

  • But, for me, if I fall one time doing that, I'm  like, "All right, I'm done." That's how I feel.  

  • But he fell probably 15 times on a climb and  just kept on trying, and trying, and trying,  

  • and he made it to the top and I was like, "Wow."  And, when he got down, I said, "I have to try  

  • a lot more than I would, because I just  saw him persevere." So, it's a very good  

  • perseverance sport. Vanessa

  • Yeah. Dan

  • So, I tried, and tried, and tried, and I got one  third of the way, because it was really difficult.  

  • It's called crack climbing. And there's just  a crack in the wall. And, you got to put your  

  • hands there. And, just- Vanessa

  • That's so hard. Dan

  • ... There's nothing except for a crack and  little tiny ledges. So, their experienced,  

  • so they got up the first part really easilySo, the girl who was with us, she said,  

  • "Yeah, that was tricky." But, I  was stuck on the first part for...  

  • It felt like 20 minutes, it was probably more  like 10 minutes. They just got up that part. But  

  • it was literally just a little thin rock you had  to put your fingers in, barely any foothold. But,  

  • I saw Jim fall, and fall, and fall, andkept on trying and I finally did it. Yes

  • Vanessa: Wow. Man, that is not up my alley at all

  • Dan: Yeah. Brad asked me... Brad's my  

  • brother-in-law. He said, "Do you think Vanessa  would ever do this with you?" And I was like

  • Dan: Brad's my brother-in-law. He said,  

  • "Do you think Vanessa would ever do this with  you?" And I was like, "I don't think..." I can't  

  • imagine you wanting to do that. Vanessa

  • Yeah. I don't like heights like that, and I feel  like I can't just do something like that like you.  

  • I would need to go to the climbing gym and feel  comfortable with it, because at least for me,  

  • that takes a lot of upper body strengthyour abs, your arms, your fingers. I think  

  • maybe for you, you were able to make it to the  top of the easier one and halfway up or a third  

  • of the way up the other ones because you're not  afraid of heights and your strength is distributed  

  • differently than mine. Dan

  • Yes. Vanessa

  • But I think for something like that, I would need  to massively feel more comfortable with heights  

  • and go to the gym in advance. Dan

  • The girl who was with us was the best one there

  • Vanessa: Yeah

  • Dan: She was  

  • amazing. Vanessa

  • I bet. Dan

  • Yeah. Vanessa

  • I mean, you can practice that and do it. Dan

  • Women can definitely do it. Vanessa

  • Yeah. That's the cool thing. Dan

  • She was kind of like spider monkey, though. Vanessa

  • Going everywhere. Dan

  • She hadn't had any children yet. Vanessa

  • Yeah, maybe. Dan

  • Children does a number on  you. I speak from experience

  • Vanessa: Yeah? In any case, I think that seems like  

  • the kind of exercise or sport that I would need to  practice in advance before going outside to do it,  

  • and inside where there's, I don't  know, maybe more predictability

  • Dan: Mats

  • Vanessa: ... or practice, that would be better for me

  • Dan: I thought it was more fun outside

  • Vanessa: Yeah

  • Dan: Because I've done climbing gyms before,  

  • and it's okay, but outside's a whole  adventure. It did take forever though

  • Vanessa: Yeah. You have to hook up everything

  • Dan: We did four climbs and we were there all day.  

  • You're watching other people go, and also one  person has to be the... I forget what it's called

  • Vanessa: Belay

  • Dan: Belay. Yeah. One person's holding you,  

  • making sure you're not going to fall down, so  they actually hold you up from the other end

  • Vanessa: Cool

  • Dan: I don't know all the terms,  

  • but you can imagine it, right? Vanessa

  • Yeah. It seemed like cool camaraderie  too with everybody who was there

  • Dan: Yeah. That was probably the best part

  • Vanessa: As in we all went together,  

  • and then I went on a hike with Dan's sister  and our kids and Dan's parents. We were  

  • at the same place, but hiking instead. But we were  going back and watching them too. It seemed like  

  • everyone who was in this area climbing just was  chill. They were all the type of perseverant,  

  • motivated type of person, who's like, "I'm  going to climb this rock," a personal challenge

  • Dan: It's a culture, for sure

  • Vanessa: Yeah

  • Dan: Yeah. One guy walked up and there was a climb,  

  • they all have funny names, and he was like, "Did  you do chalk line? Cool, bro." It was totally

  • Vanessa: Trying to size each other up

  • Dan: Surfer vibes

  • Vanessa: Yeah. I could see that. Well,  

  • sounds like a fun time, even though it was hard. Dan

  • Oh, it twas very hard. Very hard. Vanessa

  • Bonding together. Dan

  • Yes. How about you? Have you  tried any sports recently

  • Vanessa: Yeah, I was trying to think about this,  

  • and the answer is not really, but- Dan

  • Baseball. Vanessa

  • I was going to say baseball. Dan

  • Really? Vanessa

  • Because our four year old, almost five year  old, maybe by the time you're watching this  

  • he'll be five, our five year old son has been into  hitting the baseball with a baseball bat lately.  

  • In June, we visited Pittsburgh when Dan went- Dan

  • Rock climbing. Vanessa

  • ... rock climbing. After thatwe went to a baseball field with  

  • Dan's sister and their cousins and some  family, little kids. We tried to kind of  

  • play a baseball field. Dan

  • Tried. Yes. Vanessa

  • There's bases, and we were all hitting. The kids  hit, we hit, and I've always liked hitting a  

  • baseball. I think it's pretty fun. Dan

  • That's when you realize how many  rules there are in baseball

  • Vanessa: Yeah

  • Dan: "Don't run with the bat." "First base is over  

  • there." "No, you have to stop on the base." "Waithe's going to throw the ball to you." It's like,  

  • forget about it. Just let him hit the ball. Vanessa

  • Yeah. It was really funny to see our son hit  the ball. He was just so excited that he hit it  

  • that he was holding onto the bat and he ran to  third base. Like, "No, no, no. That way drop the  

  • bat. Go that way." Dan

  • Yes. Vanessa

  • We were just having fun. Yeah, it was funand I like hitting. Yeah. I've always liked  

  • hitting a baseball. Even though it wasn't  organized, like an actual organized sport,  

  • I think that was still a sport. It  wasn't too much exercise, but it was fun

  • Dan: I have a funny story about  

  • baseball. Can I share it? Vanessa

  • Yes. Dan

  • When I was a kid. Vanessa

  • Go ahead. Dan

  • When I was a kid, I played baseball up until  coach pitch, which is where the coach is pitching,  

  • not the players. Then I started getting  scared of how fast the ball was coming.  

  • At least back then, that's how I felt. But one  time I was the first baseman, and in baseball,  

  • it's a very slow sport, right? For kids, you  just start getting distracted when they're not  

  • hitting the ball and you're just waiting out  there. So, I was pretending to be Darth Vader  

  • with earth fader with my glove over my face.  I was literally standing on first base going,  

  • and the player hit the ball  and hit me on the glove,  

  • and we totally missed the play and it was  because I was pretending to be Darth Vader  

  • on first base. Vanessa

  • There you go. Dan

  • That's my story. Vanessa

  • Wow. Dan

  • That's why I quit baseball. Vanessa

  • Oh, man. Dan

  • Actually, that's not why. Vanessa

  • Yeah. Dan

  • It's because I would practice with my  brother and he would throw really hard and  

  • I didn't want to get hit by the ball. Vanessa

  • Yeah. I mean, I don't blame you. Dan

  • Baseball. Vanessa

  • I wouldn't want to get hit by a baseball eitherIn the US, it's pretty common for kids to do,  

  • they call it little league, so there's different  stages, and one stage might be like a parent is  

  • throwing the ball to the kids, or it's sitting on  a tee, it's sitting on a little stand and the kids  

  • just have to try to hit the ball. Then the next  level might be another player is throwing it, or  

  • then the coach is throwing it as you get more and  more advanced. So, it's kind of working you up to  

  • being a better player. Dan

  • To the majors. Vanessa

  • To the majors. Well, that was your first  answer, right? You wished you could be  

  • a famous sports player. Dan

  • I'd take the best baseball player,  

  • or just really great. Vanessa

  • Cool. Okay. Dan

  • Yeah. Any sport. I love sport. Vanessa

  • Well, I want to ask you the same question. What  was the most recent sport that you've played?  

  • It could be an organized sport like baseballor it could be something that's just more  

  • exercise, like- Dan

  • Like rock climbing. Vanessa

  • ... rock climbing, but some people might  say it's a sport. Let us know in the  

  • comments what's the most recent sport you've  played, and we'll go on to our next question.  

  • Question number 10 is about electronics. This  is another hypothetical question. If you could  

  • invent any new electronic devicewhat would it be and what would it do

  • Dan: When I first  

  • was thinking about this, I thought gadgetslike a new toaster that never burnt the toast

  • Vanessa: Okay

  • Dan: But I think when I think of  

  • noble uses for electronics, I think of the medical  field. My electronic invention would be a tiny  

  • robot that kills cancer. Vanessa

  • Oh, okay. Dan

  • A cancer killing search and destroy robot. Vanessa

  • Wow. That's noble. Dan

  • I think they might be working on this. Vanessa

  • Yeah. I don't know much about that field. Dan

  • I think there is some kind of tiny robotfor lack of a better word, that can find  

  • certain diseases or cells in the body. You know,  I do not have a background in biotech at all,  

  • but I would almost guarantee somebody's trying to  figure out how to get tiny robots that can find  

  • and kill cancer in people. Vanessa

  • That sounds great. Dan

  • That would be probably the best  use of an electronic gadget

  • Vanessa: Mine is very selfish compared to that

  • Dan: Yeah, because  

  • nothing sucks more than cancer, I  think. This is just the worst thing

  • Vanessa: Yeah. Well, if you are in biotech or if you are  

  • a cancer related doctor or surgeon- Dan

  • Send me your number and I'll tell you my plans. Vanessa

  • Yeah. Let us know. Does something like this  exists? Is this something that's in the works?  

  • Yeah. Never know. Dan

  • Yeah. How about you? How many cancer destroying  things are you creating in your spare time

  • Vanessa: Oh, sorry. Mine's very selfish.  

  • I was thinking more personal. In our house, to  go to our deck, we have a sliding door. There's  

  • a glass sliding door, and then there's a screen  that you can just push through. It's a magnet,  

  • you can just go through it. But in the summer, we  try to keep the glass sliding door closed because  

  • there's air conditioning in our house and it's  super hot and muggy, humid outside, so we don't  

  • want that air to get inside. We want it to stay  cool inside. We go in and out a lot in our house.  

  • With young children, it's kind of tricky  to get them to keep that glass door closed.  

  • It's also kind of heavy. Dan

  • The sliding door. Vanessa

  • Yeah, for them to pull it open is okay, and then  they bust through the screen door and they're  

  • outside like, "I'm going to go do something,"  and they don't think about the glass door.  

  • And for me too, sometimes if I'm carrying  something, I have to open the door.  

  • My electronic gadget would be a button  that you can push that would open the door,  

  • and then automatically within 30 seconds, it would  close the door, so you have time to go through  

  • and it would close. It might be sensor  by your body, so if you're still  

  • in the doorway it wouldn't close, but  that way it would always close behind us

  • Dan: Couldn't you just use in the grocery  

  • store where it automatically opens? Vanessa

  • Yeah, something like that. Dan

  • A sliding automatic door. Vanessa

  • But people don't have that in their house. Dan

  • Oh. But it's only a matter of money. Vanessa

  • I mean, maybe we could get something  like that installed in our house now,  

  • but I was kind of envisioning, I imagine people  who are handicapped or in a wheelchair, maybe they  

  • have something like this that's automatic. Dan

  • Probably. Vanessa

  • I'm sure it's a big system you have to installIt's probably a lot of money or kind of a hassle,  

  • but I'm sure there's some kind of system. Dan

  • Well, we could go to a closed down grocery  store, and every time it opens, it says,  

  • "Welcome to Aldi." Vanessa

  • As in we would take Aldi's doors? Dan

  • Yeah. Vanessa

  • And put them in our house, and it would havespeaker that says, "Welcome to the grocery store,"  

  • every time we open our house's doors? Dan

  • It'd be the most charming thing  we could possibly add to our home

  • Vanessa: Maybe we could have it say,  

  • "Welcome home, Vanessa." Dan

  • Oh, yeah. Programmable. Vanessa

  • I don't think I would like my doors to talk. Dan

  • And it also takes off your hat

  • Vanessa: Wow

  • Dan: With an arm

  • Vanessa: Maybe it also feeds you food and gives you water

  • Dan: And it's a conveyor belt too,  

  • so you don't have to walk through it. Vanessa

  • And maybe it is also your brainso you don't have to think

  • Dan: And there's another arm that  

  • puts a soda in your hand. Vanessa

  • That's weird. Yes. I would like our glass sliding  door to be closed more easily so that it is not a  

  • personal hassle or an annoyance in our home. But  I must say that Dan's cancer fighting robots are  

  • probably a better idea. Anyway, I thought  about this question for about 4.2 seconds

  • Dan: And I thought of it for four minutes

  • Vanessa: Okay

  • Dan: To be fair

  • Vanessa: Yeah. So,  

  • maybe if I thought about it for four minutes  I would've come up with a better idea. Anyway,  

  • what about you? What kind of new electronic gadget  would you like to invent, and what would it do?  

  • Let us know in the comments and we'll go to our  next question. Question number 11 is about money.  

  • I'd like to know what is something that you  can justify spending more money on and why

  • Dan: Yeah. Justify. I mean, probably speakers

  • Vanessa: We always talk about speakers

  • Dan: I'm kidding. I like audio stuff a lot.  

  • I would say maybe once a year I just start  looking into some audio equipment or some kind  

  • of electronics, usually. I'm like, "Vanessa, do  you think we could?" She's like, "No, we have 10  

  • speakers," or headphones or something. You know? Vanessa

  • We talked about this in past videos. Dan

  • Yes. This is not actually  my answer. I said property

  • Vanessa: Oh, okay

  • Dan: Yeah, because I know for sure  

  • we want to have another property. Vanessa

  • Like in the woods? Dan

  • Yes. We would like to own, it might  just be land, but maybe just a cabin.  

  • This is a little bit nostalgic for me because  my grandfather actually gave my parents  

  • or I guess gave us access to a very simple cabin  that we would go to in the mountains in Colorado,  

  • and that was our little escape  from the hubbub of normal life  

  • going to that cabin. Vanessa

  • No electricity, no plumbing. Dan

  • Yes, but it has to be like that. It has to be  off grid, basically. I mean, it had electricity

  • Vanessa: Oh, yeah

  • Dan: But it didn't  

  • have running water. Vanessa

  • Ah, that was a thing. Dan

  • I mean, I think I'd take  electricity. That's kind of nice

  • Vanessa: That is nice

  • Dan: I don't know. We'll debate the details later, but  

  • I know for sure I want to have some more propertyYou can always justify it by saying, "Well,  

  • this is an investment too. You can always resell  it." Usually with property you'll at least make  

  • back what you bought it for. Vanessa

  • Hopefully. Dan

  • Especially in this area, it's always growing,  

  • so I can make a lot of justifications for  why we need to own many beach homes. I mean

  • Vanessa: Mountain

  • Dan: ... mountain homes

  • Vanessa: ... cabins. Yeah. When you were a kid

  • Dan: Many

  • Vanessa: ... you would  

  • just go to the mountains with your mom  and siblings and play in the woods and  

  • catch critters. Dan

  • Yeah. There was acres of land there. There wasn't  as many critters as I would've liked there

  • Vanessa: Oh, yeah

  • Dan: But there was a pond and there  

  • were dragon flies and fish. Vanessa

  • Oh, that sounds fun. Dan

  • Yeah. Vanessa

  • I think that's a beautiful childhood too, being  able to do stuff like that. We go hiking a lot,  

  • but there's something special about staying there. Dan

  • Yeah. Vanessa

  • In the cabin and you go back to the same placemaybe different seasons, and get to know the  

  • seasons there. Dan

  • Yeah. Vanessa

  • That's cool. Dan

  • Yeah. The best thing about the cabin that we  had was it had a loft. It doesn't seem very safe  

  • thinking back to it, because my memory of it is it  was like a plywood deck hanging from the ceiling

  • Vanessa: Did it have a- 

  • Dan: It was hanging down, and you climbed a ladder up  

  • to it. It had plywood walls, but there were gaps  in the walls too, where you could just jump down,  

  • which we didn't jump down. But what we did was  because it was a one room cabin, if my parents  

  • were there with some friends or my grandparentsthey would play cards, and they would send us to  

  • bed, but we could hear everything, so we'd spy on  them and we'd drop stuff down on them and stuff

  • Vanessa: That sounds fun

  • Dan: Yeah. That was fun

  • Vanessa: Wow, so maybe we can recreate this  

  • rustic experience. Dan

  • We need a loft. Vanessa

  • Do you think it would be just as fun as  an adult? Because you were a kid doing it,  

  • do you think that- Dan

  • To sleep in the loft? Vanessa

  • Well, for us, because we're adults now, so  having this rural experience, would it be as  

  • fun for us as it would- Dan

  • I think it would be. Vanessa

  • ... as for kids? Dan

  • Yeah, because one benefit of being in a place like  

  • America and the United States is that you can  usually find some place that is very rural  

  • and quiet. Vanessa

  • Quickly and close. Dan

  • We live close enough to a highway  and stuff that it would be nice to  

  • just only hear the birds chirping. Vanessa

  • Yeah. I think that's really possible. I mean- Dan

  • And get away from electronics and stuff. It would  have to be an intentional, this is not a place  

  • where we have a TV, for example. Vanessa

  • Yeah. I think you can drive about 20 minutes away  from our house and be very much in the woods

  • Dan: Yes

  • Vanessa: But anyway, that's a  

  • specific discussion for another time. Dan

  • Yes. Vanessa

  • Cool. So, you'd like to have- Dan

  • More property. Vanessa

  • ... a cabin, and that would be a investmentan investment that you could justify.  

  • Well, I think for me, when I thought about this,  I thought more of something that we already do  

  • that we have justified spending more money on, so- Dan

  • Garden boxes. Vanessa

  • I spend too much money on the garden. That's true.  

  • These are the world's most expensive tomatoes. Dan

  • We are now a small scale farm. Vanessa

  • That's not what I was saying, but that  is true. I thought of something more  

  • in our daily life. I think this is different for  everyone depending on how much money you have. At  

  • some point in our marriage, we bought the cheapest  food. This is all that we could afford and  

  • that was it. But then as we made more money, we  wanted to intentionally buy better quality food

  • Dan: We prioritize it

  • Vanessa: Yeah. So, instead  

  • of just buying expensive food, we wanted to buyespecially we kind of made an intention to buy  

  • better quality animal products specifically. In  the US, you have a lot of options. You could buy  

  • organic carrots or conventional carrots, and  not so much that I'm thinking more about meat  

  • and yogurt and cheese and milk- Dan

  • Where the creatures are involved. Vanessa

  • Yeah, because in the area where we livethere's a lot of options for buying  

  • local grass fed beef, for example, where  there's a farm down the street and it's  

  • much more expensive than buying the cheapest  beef at the grocery store. But for us,  

  • as we've made more money, this has been  something that we justify spending more money on.  

  • If we didn't have money, then I would not spend  money on that, because that wasn't a priority

  • Dan: It would be hot dogs and canned tuna

  • Vanessa: I mean, maybe not hot dogs, but some beans  

  • or just rice, something very simple. Dan

  • Rice and beans. There you go. Vanessa

  • Yeah. You can live off of that. Lots of people  do. But for us, this has been something that  

  • we have been intentional aboutWhen we buy milk, we try to buy  

  • good quality, not just expensive, but either  local milk or something that's whole milk,  

  • grass fed, something local, these types of thingsWe have our own chickens, so those are certainly

  • Dan: They're free range

  • Vanessa: Beautiful quality eggs. But this  

  • type of thing, because I feel like it is directly  impacting the farming world and the animal's life.  

  • We are not vegan, we are not vegetarianbut I don't like conventional farms and  

  • factory farms, big scale farms. Dan

  • From the standpoint of the animals? Vanessa

  • From a lot of standpoints, the environmentanimals, all of that, maybe you're eating  

  • too much meat, but I completely understand that  if you don't have much money, you buy food. You  

  • just have to buy the food that you buy and you  have to survive. Then as you make more money,  

  • you make different choices about what you buyFor us, that's been increasing the quality of  

  • the animal products that we buy for a lot of  different reasons. But anyway, that's something  

  • that I can justify spending more money on. Dan

  • Yes. Better food. Vanessa

  • Yeah. That's something that we've chosen to  spend more money on over time. That is probably  

  • different for you. Let us know in the comments  for you, what is something that you can justify  

  • spending more money on, maybe in the future, like  Dan's answer, some cabin or property, you could  

  • justify spending more money on that, or maybe it's  something that you already spend more money on,  

  • like my answer. Let us know in the comments.  I'm curious. What are your financial priorities?  

  • Let us know in the comments, and let's go to the  next question. Question number 11 is about games.  

  • We like games. Dan

  • Games. Are they fun? Vanessa

  • Yes. Dan

  • I don't know. Vanessa

  • I would like to know what is a game that you  play that you're very competitive about. The  

  • word competitive means you want to winYou feel serious, you can still have fun,  

  • but you want to win. Dan

  • The real question for me is what isgame that I don't feel competitive about,  

  • because I have a game switch in my head. I  start playing a game and I'm like, "Strategy on,  

  • let's win this thing," and I feel very competitive  about it. I would say, especially any game that  

  • has strategy where you can actually make  decisions that will really impact the game,  

  • there's a lot of games that are just roll the dice  and it's random chance. It's a little easier not  

  • to be competitive about that. Vanessa

  • Yeah. Dan

  • Like when I played shoots and ladders  with my son the other day, 100% luck,  

  • which he didn't necessarily understand. He was  like, "Look, I'm going to jump over the slide." 

  • Vanessa: You can't jump over the slide

  • Dan: That's not part of the rules.  

  • But that was very interesting that he  thought about that himself. But anyway, yeah,  

  • the question is, what am I competitive- Vanessa

  • Yeah. Give an example of some gamesbecause maybe our students too would like

  • Dan: What am I super competitive about

  • Vanessa: Yeah. Maybe they'd like some  

  • examples that they could play. Dan

  • A recent example is there's a game called  Code Names, and it's one of the best games  

  • ever, I think. Vanessa

  • Actually, I have a YouTube video where Dan andplay this and I teach you how to play it and teach  

  • you vocabulary along the way. Dan

  • Is very challenging, it scalesso if your group is very smart,  

  • they'll play it very smart. If your group is  dumb, it plays to the level of the players.  

  • I've had to train myself not to get competitive  about this game, because for example, we first  

  • played this. We literally went to bed  that night and had an argument about it

  • Vanessa: "But why did you say this thing?" No,  

  • I meant that." "How could you not get this?" Dan

  • Yeah. It feels really bad  to lose that game, I think

  • Vanessa: Yeah

  • Dan: So, that one really got to me.  

  • The last time we played, I have to usually tell  myself I'm not going to get super competitive.  

  • I'm just going to have a good time, and iflose, that's okay. I have to prep myself because  

  • I really like to win games. Vanessa

  • Yeah. Yeah. Dan

  • Actually, I've gotten better with that over time. Vanessa

  • Yeah. I think Code Names is a good  one for English learners. One that  

  • we play often or we play maybe three  times a year is Settlers of Catan

  • Dan: Yes

  • Vanessa: You can play the simple version of sellers  

  • of Catan, or you can use the expansions. Dan

  • We go a little crazy. Vanessa

  • The original game, it might take one and a half  hours, but the way we play, sometimes it takes  

  • five hours, and it can be very intense. It depends  on who you play with. I've played this game with  

  • people who are so serious that they are not fun  to play with, as in if you set the dice down,  

  • they'll say, "Oh, your turn's over. It's my  turn now." "What? Give me some slack. Cut  

  • me some slack." But when we play with us, and  the people we usually play with is Dan's sister  

  • and her husband, Brad- Dan

  • That's the only people we play with now. Vanessa

  • Dan rock climbed with, yeah, when we play with  them, we're all competitive, but we're nice

  • Dan: We're lighthearted at the same time

  • Vanessa: Yeah. We have a good  

  • time still. Sometimes at the end of the gamewhen it's about two o'clock in the morning

  • Dan: We've gad arguments though

  • Vanessa: Okay. We've had big  

  • arguments, the four of us about it. But  when it's getting really late at night,  

  • everyone's really tired, and we know we have to  wake up early with all of our kids, so it gets a  

  • little more stressful. But that's a fun one. Dan

  • Yes. Vanessa

  • Those are neither- Dan

  • You feel competitive about that? Vanessa

  • I feel competitive about- Dan

  • You're a quiet competitor. Vanessa

  • I feel competitive about those games, butfeel most competitive when I play Carcassonne

  • Dan: Oh,  

  • just against me? Vanessa

  • Against you, mainly because- Dan

  • You beat me a lot too. Vanessa

  • That's why. Dan

  • I don't like it. Vanessa

  • Because I have probably a 50% chance of winning.  

  • A lot of games, depending on what they are, ifplay them with just Dan, I either won't win often  

  • or it'll be like 30% of the time I'll win. But  with Carcassonne, I win about 50% of the time

  • Dan: It's not just luck

  • Vanessa: It's not just luck. There's a lot of  

  • work and strategy. If you miss up a move, you  can lose the entire game, and your three hour  

  • experience is lost. I like Carcassonne a lot  because of that. It's fun to me, I can win

  • Dan: We can play one on one

  • Vanessa: We can play just us,  

  • and I think that's a good... there's not many- Vanessa

  • Play just us, and I think that's a good ...  There's not many good strategy games that you  

  • can play with just two people. It's based off of  a city in France, Carcassonne, the same name. And  

  • the game looks like that city. Dan

  • You build city walls and roads and stuff. Vanessa

  • Yeah. It's quite fun. There's  also expansions on that.  

  • That can make it longer. Dan

  • Theo would love that game. Vanessa

  • I think he could play it. Dan

  • Yeah. We got to play that with my son. Vanessa

  • Yeah. That'd be fun. Anyway. Dan

  • He's going to like games too. We're  going to get in a lot of family arguments 

  • Vanessa: About being competitive. Actually. He played  

  • Settlers of CATAN Jr. Dan

  • Yeah. Vanessa

  • Which is the kid's version. Dan

  • He did amazing. Yesterday. Vanessa

  • Yesterday, for the first time  and you were playing with him

  • Dan: I helped him a lot, but he still got it

  • Vanessa: Cool. That's a new  

  • phase in parenting. When we can- Dan

  • He's not even five yet and he still sat through  turns and listened to the rules and he looked at  

  • the little chart and figured it out and stuff. Vanessa

  • That's cool. Dan

  • Yeah. Vanessa

  • That sounds fun. I would- Dan

  • It was impressive. Vanessa

  • I like little kid stuff, but I really like- Dan

  • Big kid stuff. Vanessa

  • ... playing baseball with your kids or playing  Settlers of CATAN with your kids. Stuff that I  

  • enjoy too. Like for example, we're going to an  aquarium for our five year old's birthday. I like  

  • aquariums and this isn't something that's just for  kids. It's for us too. And it's for his birthday.  

  • So a new stage of the ... Dan

  • The giant critter museum. Vanessa

  • That's Dan's favorite. Dan

  • Yes. Vanessa

  • Anyway, that was a little detour. So I want to  know for you, what game do you feel competitive  

  • about? Or maybe you are a non-competitive  person. You play a game and you're like,  

  • "I can win. I don't have to win. It's okay." Or  maybe you are super competitive. Let us know in  

  • the comments what's a game you feel competitive  about and we'll go to our next question. Question.  

  • Number 13 is about celebrities or maybe they  don't have to be celebrities. Interesting people

  • Dan: Famous people

  • Vanessa: This is a common

  • Dan: Infamous people

  • Vanessa: ... question, common conversation question  

  • to spice things up. I'm having a special  dinner party. Who is someone dead or alive  

  • who you would like to invite? Dan

  • Yeah, I feel like I've answered  something similar to this recently

  • Vanessa: Oh, okay

  • Dan: And I give this answer a lot,  

  • so I'm very current. I just want to know  what's going on in the world now. So I would  

  • just invite the current president. Okay. So Joe  Biden, I would actually take Donald Trump too,  

  • just because I can't believe these people exist  and are so annoying and dumb. I want to see what  

  • they're really like. Are they really as ridiculous  and empty as they seem? Are they faking it? I want  

  • to ask them tough questions and see if Joe Biden  just falls asleep in the middle of dinner, or if  

  • Donald Trump just ... I guess he seems pretty ...  Yeah. He'd probably just blow if he ate something.  

  • But yeah, I want to get into their heads or try  to, and just see how ridiculous they are in real  

  • life. Because again- Vanessa

  • You're just curious. Dan

  • I live my life and then I see these are the people  running the country and I just can't put that  

  • together and it makes me feel upset usually. Vanessa

  • They don't seem like real people. Dan

  • Yeah. They're not. Vanessa

  • So having a dinner conversation with somebody can  bring out the real them, the real inside look

  • Dan: Sure. Oh yeah. That's another key  

  • element. I'd get them really drunk. Vanessa

  • Okay. Dan

  • Got to spike their drinks a little bit  more. And this is not what I'd really do,  

  • but this is the hypothetical world where I get  Donald Trump at my dinner table or Joe Biden

  • Vanessa: Okay

  • Dan: Joe Biden would just fall asleep. I'm  

  • convinced. He's old and just not with it. Vanessa

  • Okay. Well. Dan

  • But he'd probably share a lot of  information if you got them tipsy

  • Vanessa: That would be very interesting

  • Dan: Yeah. Just how close are your fingers  

  • to the nuclear buttons, Mr. President? Vanessa

  • Do we want to know? Dan

  • No. Vanessa

  • Well, I feel like for my answer to this  question, I chose to go much more personal.  

  • And that's usually when I think  about this question, I always  

  • think that more. Dan

  • This is the difference between you and me. Vanessa

  • Yeah. Because if I met with the  current or past presidents of the US,  

  • I don't know what I would do with that  information. Okay, so this is what they're  

  • like now, what do I do? Dan

  • Share it to the world. Vanessa

  • But I think- Dan

  • Nobody'd believe you. Vanessa

  • I would be very interested from a personal  standpoint to meet, on my question number one I  

  • mentioned Antoinette Menifee, my great grandma who  came from Italy. I would be very interested to sit  

  • down and have a conversation at dinner with her. Dan

  • That would be very interesting. Vanessa

  • What kind of woman is she  that she met a random man,  

  • moved to another country, left her familynever saw them again and raised six children in  

  • the US? And here we are. Dan

  • I have a question. Vanessa

  • I'd be very interested. Dan

  • Would you go back in time or would she come  to current time in this hypothetical universe

  • Vanessa: She would come to current times

  • Dan: So you want to show her the future

  • Vanessa: I wouldn't show her  

  • anything. I would just be eating dinner with her  and she would have her entire life experience.  

  • Okay. So I don't want her to be like, so  maybe it doesn't matter 90 years old when she  

  • can't remember things, but I don't want her  to be 30 years old and she hasn't had a lot of  

  • experiences yet. So this is a magical question. Dan

  • 60? Vanessa

  • I don't know. Dan

  • How long did she live, anyways? Vanessa

  • I don't know. I met her when I- Dan

  • You did? Vanessa

  • There's a picture of me on her lap as a baby. Dan

  • Oh. Vanessa

  • So she lived at least till like 1987,  1988. I don't know how old she was,  

  • but I'm sure she was- Dan

  • She was probably pretty old. Vanessa

  • She had a lot of life experiences and I'm always  curious about what life was like back then. And  

  • I think it would be a personal touch to be  like, "Oh, this was someone who is part of me  

  • and some roots." Anyway, that's  my answer. So I'm curious for you,  

  • if you had a magical dinner party, who would you  like to invite someone dead or alive? Let us know  

  • in the comments. I'm curious to see what you  have to say and let's go to our next question

  • Vanessa: The 14th question is about  

  • pets. What kind of pet would you like to have? Dan

  • What kind of pet? If I could have any pets. Vanessa

  • If you could have any pet. Dan

  • In the world. Vanessa

  • Yes. Dan

  • That I don't already have. Vanessa

  • Well, we have chickens. Dan

  • We have cats and chickens. Vanessa

  • Tadpoles that turned into frogs, catsDo we have anything else at the moment

  • Dan: Well, okay.  

  • I can think of one ... Vanessa

  • A caterpillar. Dan

  • ... that does not really fit our family. Vanessa

  • Okay. Dan

  • And it is a smart dog that doesn't bark too much. Vanessa

  • Our child hates barking dogs. Dan

  • Well, I hate barking too. Vanessa

  • Yeah. Dan

  • But I really like dogs to a degree. Certain dogs  I really like, because I just feel like humans and  

  • dogs, they really are man's best friend. But when  I think about how much work a dog takes and it's  

  • like almost taking on another family member. Vanessa

  • Oh yeah. Dan

  • And it just doesn't really fit. Not to mention  

  • our oldest son is extremely afraid of dogs. Vanessa

  • Yeah. Dan

  • And he really, really does not like them. Vanessa

  • Yeah. If you have any tips about how to help  kids feel more comfortable with dogs without  

  • traumatizing them, I need some help. Dan

  • Yeah. Vanessa

  • Let me know in the comments. Dan

  • We're working on. It. It's a work in progress. Vanessa

  • Yep. Dan

  • But also, I don't think you  like dogs as much as I do

  • Vanessa: Yeah

  • Dan: I don't think you would put  

  • it on a bucket list. It's almost a bucket list  thing for me to have a dog someday. A cool dog,  

  • like a Border Collie or an Australian ShepherdSomething that's noble, smart, fast, cunning and  

  • difficult to keep. Because border collies are  notorious for needing lots and lots of exercise

  • Vanessa: Yeah. If we were farmers,  

  • maybe. We worked on a farm. Dan

  • We're getting there. Vanessa

  • But we have a big garden. We worked on a farm in  the south of France and they had a Border Collie  

  • that was so fun and so smart. Dan

  • You could see the intelligence in that dog's eyes. Vanessa

  • Oh yeah. That dog was amazing. But that  dog was living in the perfect place. It had  

  • endless stimulation, endless exercise. Dan

  • Never went inside. Vanessa

  • That dog could work there. Yeah. It was greatBut I think it's also smart to know what animals  

  • don't fit your life. And for us, at least  at the moment, we have a lot of smart, fast  

  • running around creatures in our house  called children. So we're at our capacity

  • Dan: Yes. Yeah. And there's also more  

  • dogs that I actually dislike than like. There's  a lot of dogs I'm just like, "No, thank you."  

  • Small yippy dogs, no. No, thanks. No. Vanessa

  • It's not your style. Dan

  • Not my thing. Vanessa

  • Yeah. Dan

  • It'd need to be bigger, smarter, noble, cunningThese are the words that come to my mind when I  

  • think of a cool dog. Vanessa

  • Okay, yeah. A dog that helps you in  some way too. A working dog, maybe

  • Dan: Sure. That's not even necessary.  

  • Just one that can catch a Frisbee. Vanessa

  • Oh, that sounds fun. Cool. Wellour kids are getting there.  

  • Did you have another one? I thought  you said you had a second one

  • Dan: Oh, well, so I also said some fish

  • Vanessa: Oh

  • Dan: Like a giant fish

  • Vanessa: What's giant mean

  • Dan: This is

  • Vanessa: Like a whale

  • Dan: Both of these are unrealistic.  

  • Because you said any pet. Vanessa

  • Yeah. It's okay. We can dream. Dan

  • When you get into the aquarium world. Let me  tell you about the aquarium world. You can get  

  • pretty detailed and intense about it. And there  are some really cool fish. There's one, I think  

  • it's called a arowana. Vanessa

  • Okay. Dan

  • I want to say, and they can get like this big. Vanessa

  • What kind of tank do you have to have? Dan

  • They're shiny and they can be gold or redbut they'll literally sell for $10,000. 

  • Vanessa: What? And you probably have to  

  • have a tank the size of this room. Dan

  • And you need a big tank. Probably  not the size of the room

  • Vanessa: Oh my goodness

  • Dan: I wouldn't want to spend money on it.  

  • I'd never bring myself to spend money on it. Vanessa

  • You can't justify spending money on it. Dan

  • If somebody just gave me the supplies  and the fish, I'd set it up and be happy

  • Vanessa: Okay. That's a good dream. Yeah. Like my dream

  • Dan: Yeah. How about you

  • Vanessa: I said

  • Dan: A dinosaur

  • Vanessa: No, I said a cow

  • Dan: Oh

  • Vanessa: Yeah. I think it would be cool to have a cow, but

  • Dan: Daisy

  • Vanessa: The only way I would have a cow is if basically  

  • I was just the owner and someone else came every  day to milk the cow. Somebody prepared, took care  

  • of the cow. I don't want to take care of it. Dan

  • And in this scenario you're a noble woman. Vanessa

  • Yes. Dan

  • Living in her manor. Vanessa

  • Yes. And I would say, "Go take care of my cow  down there." Basically. I just want lots of milk.  

  • Lots of milk- Dan

  • Free milk. Vanessa

  • ... to make ... It's not freeThere's a lot of work into a cow

  • Dan: Okay. Not so free

  • Vanessa: I have to pay the person  

  • who takes care of the cow. Dan

  • You're not touching udders. Vanessa

  • Having endless amounts of yogurt, cheese, milkthat's from your fresh dairy cow. That's cool.  

  • But it's also extremely hard. Dan

  • They poop all over your yard. Vanessa

  • Well, I don't even need to keep it in my yard. Dan

  • So do the chickens. Oh. Vanessa

  • It would be on my farm

  • Dan: Oh

  • Vanessa: It would be  

  • in someone else's farm and  I would just own that cow

  • Dan: On your manor

  • Vanessa: But there's actually,  

  • I was thinking about this the other day, we stayed  at an Airbnb that was a farm and they have some  

  • cows and horses and chickens and they have a milk  sharing program where you can buy part of the cow.  

  • So you're not actually like I buy the leg of the  cow, that kind of thing. They're saying, if you  

  • buy part of the cow, the ownership of this  cow, you will get a certain amount of milk  

  • per month from that cowSo it's what I'm thinking.  

  • You don't have to do any work, but you get the  milk. Yeah. And you pay for it. But it's local  

  • and it's going back to justifying, spending  more money on high quality animal products

  • Dan: We could just do that

  • Vanessa: We eat a lot of yogurt and I hate  

  • to buy all the yogurt. We buy a bulk big yogurt  container, but we go through so many of those.  

  • We eat yogurt a lot. Our kids eat yogurt a lot. Dan

  • Our kids love yogurt. Vanessa

  • Yeah. I think that if we had something  like a milk sharing program, we would,  

  • or I would be more inclined to just make some  yogurt in the Crockpot or something and have  

  • that at home. Anyway. Dan

  • That's a very Vanessa answer. Vanessa

  • That's a dream. Dan

  • A cow that you don't want to take care of. Vanessa

  • No, I don't want to take care of it. Dan

  • Those people that had the cow at the  Airbnb, they looked really tired

  • Vanessa: They said

  • Dan: They had three cows,  

  • two cows? Vanessa

  • They said the word we would use to describe having  a cow is relentless. They said rain or shine,  

  • sick or not. Dan

  • You got to milk them. Vanessa

  • Christmas or Thanksgiving, any day, twice a daythey have to go to the barn and milk that cow

  • Dan: Yeah. And it's just two people there

  • Vanessa: Yeah. They didn't hire anyone to  

  • help them, so they never get a vacation, which  they could hire someone to help occasionally

  • Dan: I will just say

  • Vanessa: Anyway. Not my style

  • Dan: I saw a twinge of regret in her eyes  

  • when she was talking about this decision. Vanessa

  • Yeah. They loved those cows and they took  good care of them. But they're like, "Oh,  

  • this is relentless." Dan

  • Yeah. Because in their previous life, they  weren't ... Well life. Jobs or careers,  

  • they weren't farmers at all. Vanessa

  • Yeah. Dan

  • They made a conscious decision to go back to  

  • farming. Vanessa

  • Yeah. Anyway, that's my answer, a cow. Dan

  • That could be you. Vanessa

  • That could be me. We'll seeAnyway, what about you? What pet,  

  • if you could have any pet in the world, or any  animal really, it doesn't even have to be a pet,  

  • what would you have? Let us know in the commentsAnd we'll go to our final question. Are you ready

  • Dan: Ready

  • Vanessa: Let's go. The final question. Question number 15.  

  • We've made it this far is about booksSomething that's a love of my life. The  

  • question is- Dan

  • And not as much mine. Vanessa

  • Yeah, so I'm very curious what  you have to say about this.  

  • What is a book that you would recommend  everyone read because you loved it so much

  • Dan: Yeah. My answer's definitely a cop out here

  • Vanessa: Yeah

  • Dan: Because I don't read that much. And  

  • the most I ever read, we had a book club and it  basically required me to read. And I like reading  

  • a lot. I just don't do it. I find myself listening  to something or watching something first.  

  • So my cop out answer is some parenting book. Vanessa

  • Oh, okay. Dan

  • So the one that comes to my mind is called  Peaceful Parenting, but I don't think it  

  • specifically has to be that. It just has to be  something that is not too modern, but not just  

  • handed down generationally, like, "I just do what  my parents did." Something intentional, training  

  • people basically how to be better, kinder, gentler  parents for their children. How to talk to them  

  • better. There's a lot of strategies and tips you  can get for talking about or talking to children.  

  • And the book also needs to have like a lot  of what's that child psychology informing it  

  • scientifically because the more you learn about  children, the more you learn that they are  

  • developing at different times and rates and  you might think they can handle something,  

  • but in reality, their brains literally can't  handle it. So that gives you more patience

  • Vanessa: Yeah

  • Dan: Because there's a lot of people,  

  • a lot of parents who just think their kids are  stubborn or just want to yell at them for things,  

  • but they don't really get the full picture  about the child's development and their needs

  • Vanessa: Yeah. Yeah

  • Dan: So that's my answer even though  

  • it's not really one specific book. Vanessa

  • Don't worry. Dan

  • I have other books that I really enjoyed, but  maybe aren't as relevant to people. One that came  

  • to my mind is called Educated. Vanessa

  • Oh, that was an interesting book. Yeah. Dan

  • But that feels really relevant to me because I was  homeschooled. And so this girl was homeschooled,  

  • but in a really bad environment. And so it's that  story basically of being extremely sheltered. And  

  • basically even in that terrible environmentthere's almost pros and cons to it.  

  • It almost made her stronger in some  ways, even though it was awful

  • Vanessa: That's an interesting story

  • Dan: That was a very interesting book to me

  • Vanessa: Yeah. I would say for the parenting books,  

  • I have an Amazon link. Dan

  • She's got a list for you. Vanessa

  • I do. It's a Speak English With Vanessa Amazon  book storefront. So I've chosen a bunch of books  

  • that I recommend because I've made a lot of videos  about books on this channel. So in the description  

  • of this video, you can see the Amazon link for  my book recommendations and there's different  

  • folders. There's children's books, there's  beginner English books. If you've never read  

  • a book in English before, this is what I recommend  reading there's intermediate books, there's  

  • nonfiction books. Vanessa

  • And in that children's book section are books for  children, but also parenting book recommendations  

  • that have really impacted us and have been  useful in our lives. For example, a book called  

  • Hunt, Gather, Parent. There's another book  called Peaceful Parent, Happy Kids. And if you  

  • have more than one child Peaceful Parent, Happy  Siblings is amazing. We've read a lot of these  

  • styles of books. And I think it's just changing  your mindset about how to respect your child,  

  • but also still be the authority. Dan

  • Yeah. Vanessa

  • Anyway, like Dan said- Dan

  • It's a tough balance. Vanessa

  • ... some psychology as well. So there's a  lot of recommendations. If you click on that  

  • Amazon link and you would like to dive into the  world of a better relationship with your child

  • Dan: Especially if you got kids out there

  • Vanessa: Oh yeah. Or you are interacting with children.  

  • Anyway, it's very insightful. My recommendation  was also on a similar nonfiction route. Because  

  • I've read a lot of fiction that's personally  made me feel passionate about different topics.  

  • And I love reading fiction and diving into  different worlds, especially historical  

  • fiction where you're learning about something in  history. But I would say the book that made me  

  • within the last two years, the  most passionate, can you guess

  • Dan: Something about Native Americans

  • Vanessa: No, I do read a lot about native Americans  

  • though. Is a book called Digital Minimalism. Dan

  • Oh yeah. I thought you were talking fiction. Vanessa

  • Yes. Which is- Dan

  • Or nonfiction. Vanessa

  • Oh, this one is not fiction. Dan

  • This is nonfiction. Vanessa

  • It's ironic because we are here  sharing this on social media

  • Dan: Yeah

  • Vanessa: But if you feel like you  

  • look at your phone too much, or if you feel like,  "Why did it seem like life was so much more simple  

  • in the 1990s?" Dan

  • It was. Vanessa

  • This is a wonderful book to read, Digital  Minimalism. It confirmed everything that I  

  • suspected or that I thought about, especially  about phones, but about media in general

  • Dan: Technology

  • Vanessa: But it gave a better  

  • plan for what to do because you can't just  cut out YouTube from your life. I need

  • Dan: I don't know about that

  • Vanessa: You can't cut out Vanessa's videos. When I need  

  • to, for example, do something with the gardenwhat do I do when I don't know? I Google it. I  

  • watch a YouTube video. It's very useful in many  ways, say for education or even for entertainment,  

  • but this book helps you to have a good plan so  that you are the one in control of your media use.  

  • It's not just social media. It could be watching  the news all the time. It could be listening to  

  • podcasts all the time, whatever it is. I feel  like this book helped me to create a better  

  • plan for myself so that I felt more in controlSo I highly recommend this book because I feel  

  • like it's ubiquitous that everyone, especially if  you're watching this on YouTube in some way ... 

  • Dan: Struggles

  • Vanessa: ... uses technology more than they would like

  • Dan: Yeah

  • Vanessa: And technology's not a bad thing

  • Dan: It's a modern problem

  • Vanessa: Yeah. It's just something that can easily  

  • get out of hand, which is a great expression. Dan

  • So do you have any fiction books though? Vanessa

  • Oh yes. But that is ... Dan

  • Recommendations? Vanessa

  • ... a whole nother rabbit hole. Dan

  • Yeah. Vanessa

  • I would recommend if you want to read- Dan

  • We didn't mention fiction. Vanessa

  • Yeah. Dan

  • You got to say one thing at least. Vanessa

  • Well, I do recommend watching my videos  about fiction book recommendations

  • Dan: She's got a whole video  

  • about it right here. Vanessa

  • I have four videos. Dan

  • Or is it here? Vanessa

  • Three videos I think so far about book  recommendations. If you would like to  

  • watch my video about books to learn about  America. So they're American books about American  

  • culture or they're books that are popular  about the US. There's books I mentioned about  

  • beginner English books. If you've never readbook in English before I made a video about those.  

  • Nonfiction books, I think I did an advanced  book video as well. There are a lot. So I  

  • will put those links in the description. Please  dive into that if you're interested in reading.  

  • It's something I'm passionate about, so  I'm always happy to share more about it.  

  • And I'm glad this last question was something  that is so exciting for me. Yes. Well,  

  • thank you so much everyone for  joining us today for this very,  

  • very long conversation. Dan

  • Yes. We hope you enjoyed it. Vanessa

  • Yes. I hope that you enjoyed it. I hope that you  can dive into it a little bit deeper if you would  

  • like to download the free MP3. I mean not MP3,  PDF. It's been a long morning making this video.  

  • If you would like to download the free PDF  worksheet for this video, there is a link in  

  • the description. You'll get access to all of the  questions, some of the key sentences that we said,  

  • and if all goes well, next week I will be makingvideo specifically focusing on some key vocabulary  

  • from this video. We'll expand. I'll be explaining- Dan

  • Dive into our ramblings. Vanessa

  • Yes. Explaining some of the key expressions that  we talked about in this video. Not all of them,  

  • but the ones that I deem the most importantSo stay tuned next week. You can download the  

  • PDF today and then join me next week to dive into  the vocabulary a little deeper. Well, thanks Dan

  • Dan: You're welcome

  • Vanessa: This has been a journey this morning

  • Dan: Many questions

  • Vanessa: Many questions

  • Dan: Many answers. Did we solve the meaning of life

  • Vanessa: Oh, that's a  

  • good question. Let us know. Do you think we solved  the meaning of life? What is the meaning of life

  • Dan: I think we did as best we could

  • Vanessa: If you made it to the end of this video,  

  • I would like to give you a little ... Dan

  • High five. Vanessa

  • A high five, and also a little surprise. Dan

  • Oh. Vanessa

  • If you made it to the end of this video  in the comments, I want you to write  

  • blue water bottle. And when I see that in the  comments, I'll know you finished this video  

  • because you wrote blue water bottle. Dan

  • You saw the blue water bottle. Vanessa

  • Oh, it's here. Okay. Well that's our little  secret nugget at the end of this video. Thank  

  • you so much for joining us. And I will see you  again next Friday for a new lesson here on my  

  • YouTube channel. Bye. Dan

  • Bye. Vanessa

  • The next step is to download the  free PDF worksheet for this lesson.  

  • With this free PDF, you will master today's lesson  and never forget what you have learned. You can be  

  • a confident English speaker. Don't  forget to subscribe to my YouTube  

  • channel for a free English  lesson every Friday. Bye!

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