I'vedefinitelybeenguiltyofliketryingtobewhat I feltlike I wasexpectedofme, hey, I'm Karapattersonand I playJessicaBaxterontheDisneyplusseries, Turnerandhoochand I amBrandonjayMcLaren, I playXavierWilsononthesameDisneyplusseries.
TurnerandHooch.
I'm reallyexcitedtohave a discussionaboutbeingblackartistsandprofessionalsandcreatorandallour, oursharedexperiences.
Soyeah, let's let's goahead, let's doit.
SoCara, howdidyougetstartedininenacting?
I alwaysloveditas a child, butmymomwas, shewas a singleparentand I wasn't abletobeexposedtohermuch, shewasn't abletoputmeinalltheclassesanddoallthatstuff.
So I didn't reallyget a chancetoreallyexploreituntilhighschool.
I wasreallykindofthinkingitwas a hobbybecause I didn't reallyfeelbraveenoughtosay I wantedtoreallybeanactor.
I wasjustlike, thisismyhobbyissomething I woulddoontheside.
Itwasreallysometeachersthattookmeundertheirwingandreallygavemethecouragetogoatitfullforceand I'vebeendoingit, everything I actuallystartedoutdoingcommercials.
Mymom, uh I was 12 andmymomtherewasanadontheradiosayingtheyneededethnickidstouhtoauditionforcommercials.
Somymomcamehomeonedayandshewaslike, yo I heardthisoutontheradio, doyouwannadoyouwanttoauditionforcommercials?
And I waslike, yeah, sure.
I dounderstandlikewhenyousayitdoestakecouragetobeabletotellpeoplelike, hey, like I wantedtodothisas a professionand I don't knowifthere's like, like, I don't know, like I knowlikemy, bothmyparentsareimmigrantstoo, soitwasreallyhardforthemtokindofunderstandthatlike, youknow, youknow, likethatwasdefinitely a partoflikeme, liketakinglongertosortofadmittomyselfandeverybodyelseand I wanttodothis, youknow, as a jobandmymomisfromTrinidadandmydad's fromGrenadaand I knowthattheyreallywantedtoaffordtheirChildrentheopportunitythattheyfeltthattheydidn't have.
Umandso I thinkthat's alsomaybethereasonwhytherewassokindofhesitantaboutmegoingintoacting, theywerejustscaredandthentheywantedtheyjustwanted, youknow, securityfortheirkid.
I think.
Absolutely, haveyoueverhadtochangeanythingaboutyourselftoget a role?
I hadtolearnhowtobemyselfbecausetherewas a differencebetweenhowtheindustrysawmeversushow I sawmyself, I'vedefinitelybeenguiltyofliketryingtobewhat I feltlike I wasexpectedofmeandbut I don't thinkthat I gotveryfardoingthat, itdoesn't gowellandwhen I'm like, listen, thisismyinterpretationofthischaracter, thisiswhat I bringtoitandreallyembracemyauthenticity.
That's when I'vebeenrewardedthemost.
Whataboutyou?
Haveyoueverfeltlikeyouneededto?
I mean, youknow, forme, likeoftentimeslikemymydreadshasbeenanissue.
I'vedefinitelynotgottenrolesbecause I refusedtocutmyhair.
Theywerelike, wellsorry, like, well I'm notcuttingit, youknow, But I thinkthat's gettingbetterandsometimesthatmeanssayingnotothings, youknowwhat I mean, thatyou'renotnecessarilycomfortable, butit's sofunnyyoubringuphairbecausethathasbeen a bigissueasfarasumin a bigtopicamongblackactressesasfaraslikethehairthatwebringto a rolebecauseofmytypewhenif, ifthecharacterwaslistedasbeautifulorclassyorelegant, that I couldn't wearmynaturalcurlyhair, I waslikestraighteningmyhairatfirst.
Sothatwas a partofwhen I wasreferencing, youknowthosetimeswhen I wastryingtobewhatpeopleexpectedofmeovertimeasasitwenton, I justrealizedlikewhycan't mynaturalhairbeconsideredbeautifulandclassyandwhyam I stressingmyselfout, I can't bemyfullselfanditputs a lotofthefocusontheexternalandjustyouknow, reallynitpickingmyselfandwegetsomuchrejection, wejusthavetoreallybevigilantaboutnotaddingontoitandrejectingmyselfbefore I even, youknow, getstarted.
Andyoucanneverlikeandit's likeit's suchanexerciseinfutilitytryingtofigureoutwhattheywantbecause a lotoftimestheydon't evenknowwhattheywantuntiltheyseeitexactly.
Andevenbeingrewardedbygettingthejobwithmynaturalhairthenthere's thehurdleoftheindustryneedstocatchuptothat I don't haveanxietygoingto a setbecausetherewouldneverbelikesomebodywhoknowshowtolikecutmyhair, I'd alwayshavetobringinmyownpersonorlikegolikeonmyowntimetolikemyownbar.
Andit's likeguyslike I shouldn't havetolike, like I shouldbeandwhat's nothereiswhenyouseewhitecostarsandthey'reabletojustsittherecoffeeandgetintocharacterandjustlikethey'renotand I'm inthemirrorwithmyHomegirlonFacetime, helpmewithmywigbecausethiswomandon't knowhowtodomyleaveout, right, youknow, whatever.
I likelikelookingintosomebody's eyesandbeingtruthful.
Like I liketheprocessoflikereadingum I likelearningaboutthecharacterandthosearethethings I thinkthatthatpropyouupwhenyouwouldnotbeworking, right, whenyou'reinbetweenjobs, whenyou're, youknow, you'vedone a billionauditionsandnobody's bitingwhatgetsyouthroughthosetimesorisifyoujustactuallyloveacting.
UmSoyeah, I thinkit's reallyimportantifyouhadonepieceofadvicelikepiggybackonwhat I justsaidforyoungandupcomingactorsandactressesofcolor, whatwoulditbe?
Well, I thinkjustlikewhatwe'vebeensayingisthenumberoneistoownwhoyouareandtospeakup.
I wassogratefultojustgetanopportunitythat I wouldjusttakeanything.
And a lotoftimes, youknow, it's sohardtogetthesejobsandthenyougetthereandsometimesyougetthere, youseelike, ohthere's someofthesamemicroaggressionsthathappenlikeattheofficejoboratmysidejobwaitingtablesandlikefavoritismandbiashappensandlike, and I'm stillexperiencingsomeofthatand I'm likeandyouthinkthatiseverythingwhenyou'redoingyourpassion, thateverything's gonnaberosesonceyou, all I gottadoisstartworking, butlike I knowyoucanbegratefulandyoucanstillspeakupforyourself, whatstoriescenteredaroundpeopleofcolorandfilmingtvdoyoufeellikeyouaren't seeing, I wouldn't mindseeingsortofmorelikemorelikethecelebrationofofofusandanduhandandlikeaccomplishmenttypestoriesinsteadofdivingintosortofthetrauma, whataboutyou?
I feellikemorepeopleneedtotelltheirstoriesifthatweretohappen, wewouldn't getthesametypesofstories, allthenuancesandallthethinkbeautifulthingsthathappen, youknow, as a personalcoloras a blackpersonbecausetheresilienceisimportant, notjustthethetrauma, thebounceback, wegottoseethebounceback, I feellikemyjobandthereasonwhy I dothiswithmylifeistocreate a bodyofworkthat I feellike I'm tellingupliftingandpositivestoriesabouttheblackexperienceandaboutthatand I specificallyamintentionalabouttellingstoriesthatshine a positivelightonblackwomen.
Yeah, I trytojustdomyparttocreatesomethingthat I canbeproudofandthenhopefullymyfamilyandkidsandgrandkidswillbeproudof.
Doyouthinkaboutlegacy?
Whatdoyouthinkabout, youknow, I neverhadbeforeuntilrecently, youknow I'llgototheseconsand I think I waslikethesecondblackpowerandyouhaveliketheleaderoftherangersand I gotothesecons, theselittleblackkidswillbelike, heyman, likeyouknow, I watchedyouwhen I wasnineand I didn't, I'veneverseenlike a black, like a blackpersonin a leadershiproleandthen I sawyouas a redrangerandso I'vealwayskindofcarriedthatontwo.
It's like I wanttobe, I wantto I wanttolikeopenpeople's eyesupandlooklikeme.
Likehey, like I canalsoexistinthosespaces.
There's roomformetheretoo.
That's importantforme.
Representationissoimportant.
Andthenthat's a bigreasonwhy I wassoexcitedthattheywrotethepregnant, mypregnancyand I wouldhopethatitwouldbeinspiringtootherblackwomenandotherblackactressesthatyourlifedoesn't havetostop.
So I thinkpeopleneedtoseethoseimagesandsaylike, whoa, itispossible.
Umifhecandoit, I candoit, youknow, Ohawesometoconnectwithyoutoday.
I am, I'm sogladthatwehavethisopportunitytoshareourexperiencestogether.
I'vedefinitelybeenguiltyofliketryingtobewhat I feltlike I wasexpectedofme, hey, I'm Karapattersonand I playJessicaBaxterontheDisneyplusseries, Turnerandhoochand I amBrandonjayMcLaren, I playXavierWilsononthesameDisneyplusseries.
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