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  • When you think about the massive wealth of countries in the Gulf,

  • the first thing that comes to mind is oil.

  • Oil is about so much more than just what's coming out of the ground.

  • Oil is about money, it's about politics and it's about power.

  • As oil producers, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Oman, Kuwait, and Bahrain

  • are some of the wealthiest countries in the world.

  • Together they make up the Gulf Cooperation Council, or the GCC.

  • So, how did this influential organization come together, and is its collective wealth

  • at stake as the world attempts to move away from fossil fuels?

  • The Gulf Cooperation Council came together in 1981, and since then has arguably become

  • one of the most influential trade blocs in the world.

  • But I'd like to know what's next for the six monarchies in the GCC, and there's no

  • one better to unravel its influence than international correspondent Hadley Gamble.

  • She's based in Abu Dhabi and has covered the Middle East for a decade.

  • Hi Hadley, thank you so much for joining us.

  • Thank you so much for having me.

  • So, you've reported from countless breaking news and exclusive events in the region.

  • There's nothing I love more than to get out of the studio and be a part of the story.

  • Right now, Hadley, I want to go back to the start.

  • Why was the GCC set up in the first place?

  • It's kind of an interesting story.

  • The Gulf Cooperation Council was set up back in 1981,

  • the year I was born.

  • Originally, it was expected to be a way that they could collaborate on policy,

  • whether it's economic policy or even defense policy.

  • In the past, they hadn't really done that.

  • They had been working with variousat timescolonial actors.

  • The United Kingdom obviously was very heavily involved in the region,

  • the United States as well.

  • When you talk about the GCC, it was really pretty much a sleepy kind of organization

  • for several years.

  • First time that I saw it really taking shape in terms of big policy decisions

  • was back in 2011.

  • Of course, that was the Arab Spring.

  • During the Arab Spring, of course, there was a lot of trouble in Egypt, a lot of fear,

  • frankly about the overthrow of monarchies, of autocracies.

  • Hadley's referring to the spring of 2011, when the Arab world was rocked by pro-democracy

  • uprisings in countries like Tunisia, Libya, Egypt,

  • and GCC member states Saudi Arabia and Bahrain.

  • While the movement galvanized the council, it also drove a wedge between Qatar and the

  • it also drove a wedge between Qatar

  • and the other five GCC member states.

  • You have to remember that all of these guys, technically, are related.

  • There's still a familial tie from all the Gulf Arab countries.

  • It's an issue of respect and tribalism as well.

  • So even though, they're not all pulling the same weight when it comes to the money

  • and when it comes to the oil reserves,

  • there's a real history there that people don't forget.

  • So, informally, the GCC is like, the world's biggest family affair.

  • In a way, yes totally.

  • GCC countries, they have been some of the fastest growing economies in the world.

  • Yes.

  • Is that purely down to oil?

  • Absolutely.

  • I mean, these are still all hydrocarbon economies, with the exception of Qatar, and of course,

  • that's natural gas.

  • The GCC, notably Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Kuwait, contributes around 30% of global oil

  • production.

  • How have the GCC countries been affected since the oil price shocks, in 2014, 2015,

  • and the oil price war between Saudi Arabia and Russia in 2020,

  • brought upon by the pandemic-induced slowdown?

  • We're talking about countries that have serious sovereign wealth funds,

  • and they've had to really dip into those.

  • But part of it as well is they've had to go to the international community

  • and gone to international debt markets.

  • They've been willing to take on debt in order to go forward.

  • In 2020, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar, Bahrain and Oman

  • issued $42.1 billion in international debt,

  • a record for the Gulf states and a 25% increase from 2019.

  • But things might not be perking up.

  • In 2020, a report by the International Monetary Fund

  • projected that the GCC's financial wealth

  • of $2 trillion could be depleted by 2034.

  • Peak oil is something that we discuss so often on CNBC,

  • the prospect of it, when it will happen, if it will happen, of course it will.

  • It's been interesting to see the two narratives coming from the UAE and Saudi Arabia,

  • for example, how swiftly that they are trying to move to more carbon neutral policies.

  • They know that they have to do that to be sustainable in a global environment where

  • there's going to be a lot of pressure to go green.

  • A report by the International Energy Agency

  • in May 2021 noted that CO2 emissions from

  • the energy sector and industries have increased by 60% since 1992.

  • In fact, the report, which detailed the road map

  • to achieving net-zero carbon emissions by 2050,

  • was openly mocked by several OPEC leaders.

  • The Saudi energy minister, for example, publicly expressed his doubts.

  • So I think it's more of their disbelief that we're going to not need the basic,

  • traditional sources of energy in the short to medium term.

  • Countries like India and China cannot exist without them,

  • and if they are the engines of global growth,

  • then the rest of the world will feel it if they aren't fed.

  • With the transition to green energy in the last few years, especially since it's evolved

  • into a race against time not just for all of these Gulf Arab countries,

  • but also in between these Gulf Arab countries as well.

  • Perhaps the Qatar Development Bank CEO,

  • he said it best when he asked:

  • What would we be able to produce if oil and gas did not exist?”

  • I think that when he's saying we have to have something beyond oil to offer the world,

  • he's speaking for every Gulf Arab economy, and it's not something that they don't know,

  • whether it be the volatility in oil prices, when they crashed out and went under 40.

  • Or even during the global pandemic when they hit almost zero, I mean this was a situation

  • where we had negative prices for the very first time, and it was one which nobody could

  • have predicted but certainly galvanised this push to diversification.

  • They're working very hard though on these diversification strategies.

  • They've not been unaware that the world is changing, but when you have, you know,

  • 80 plus years of oil wealth basically dictating how your economies are running, it's a fast

  • and solid moving freight train

  • that you've literally got to put the brakes on and then reverse.

  • What Hadley is emphasising here is that economic diversification from oil is inevitable.

  • And each Gulf country has charted a different course to getting there.

  • For example, there's Saudi Vision 2030 – a strategic framework

  • to reduce the state's dependency on oil.

  • The vision 2030 instituted a couple years ago, with the ascension of the Crown Prince

  • Mohammed bin Salman in Saudi Arabia really changed the game in a sense because it brought

  • the opportunity for an IPO of Saudi Aramco, something that nobody thought was going to

  • be possible and which they managed to pull off.

  • The listing of Saudi Aramco on the Saudi stock exchange valued the world's biggest oil

  • and gas company at $1.7 trillion and raised $25.6 billion at the time.

  • That amount fell short of the $100 billion investment Aramco executives were hoping to

  • count on to help diversify the economy away from oil.

  • For decades, education beyond religious education was not emphasised in countries

  • like Saudi Arabia and the UAE.

  • That has changed over the last 20 years or so.

  • Education is something that they've got to put a lot of emphasis on in the coming

  • years to get that group of technocrats and entrepreneurs, frankly, that they really need.

  • They've got to go very, very fast, because what they are attempting to do is to get people

  • off the public dime in terms of government jobs and have them creating their own businesses,

  • working in private companies.

  • For example, tourism inside Saudi Arabia,

  • that's one of the big things that they're investing in.

  • They want to create jobs by doing this, they want to open up the country by doing this,

  • something that you've never seen prior to Mohammed bin Salman and King Salman.

  • How quickly that's changed, how fundamentally the Crown Prince's policies have changed

  • things for young people, most of the population is under the age of 35.

  • It's an incredibly ambitious project, because it's not just about the economics of it,

  • it's also about the culture of it, it's about the social aspect of it as well,

  • allowing women to drive, they want more women in the workforce,

  • they know that they need that in order to be economically sustainable.

  • There has been a big shift in the UAE, in their priority, towards hydrogen.

  • Yeah, green hydrogen.

  • I mean, this is something that we've been talking about quite a bit as well

  • over the last few years.

  • This is something that the country takes very seriously, and that they're taking very

  • seriously to the international community.

  • In Dubai, a green hydrogen facility was piloted in 2021,

  • to produce eco-friendly hydrogen using renewable energy.

  • It's the first of its kind in the Middle East and North Africa.

  • Will economic diversification mean that the development initiatives within the GCC,

  • do they need to evolve?

  • Will it lead to the very notion of the GCC itself becoming obsolete?

  • They know that when they all stand together, they're stronger than individually.

  • So for the GCC countries, if we're thinking about whether or not they'll continue within

  • the GCC construct, I would say that, absolutely they will because they're still going to

  • have conflicts within GCC countries that they need to resolve.

  • The member countries have disagreed on a number of affairs,

  • including foreign policy and competing economic visions.

  • They're all family, but you know, there's always disagreements within the family.

  • The Omanis are incredibly pragmatic; they have been the ones who in the past have done

  • the secret negotiations with Iran.

  • The conversations that Oman was secretly, quietly leading

  • between the United States and Iran.

  • Now, did the Gulf Arab countries generally take very kindly to that, well of course no.

  • Another notable conflict was the Qatar crisis that lasted three years, ending in January

  • ending in January 2021.

  • GCC members Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Bahrain, along with Egypt, severed diplomatic relations