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  • ♪ ♪ ♪ >> Stephen: HEY, WELCOME BACK,

  • EVERYBODY.

  • JOINING ME NOW IS THE ACADEMY-AWARD WINNING ACTRESS

  • YOU KNOW BEST FROM "12 YEARS A SLAVE," "US," AND "BLACK

  • PANTHER."

  • SHE CURRENTLY STARS AS JULIETA IN THE PUBLIC THEATER'S

  • BILINGUAL RADIO PLAY, "ROMEO Y JULIETA."

  • PLEASE WELCOME TO "A LATE SHOW," LUPITA NYONG'O!

  • LUPITA THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

  • >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME IN STRANGE TIMES.

  • >> Stephen: IT IS STRANGE TIMES.

  • SO HAPPY TO FIND OUT WE'RE TALKING TO YOU FROM KENYA RIGHT

  • NOW, TRUE?

  • >> YES, YES, I AM HOME.

  • >> Stephen: WOW, THANKYOU SO MUCH FOR STAYING UP LATE.

  • I KNOW IT MUST BE THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT FOR YOU WHERE YOU ARE.

  • EVEN THOUGH WE'RE ONLY DOING THIS AT 5:30, OR SOMETHING,

  • WHERE WE ARE.

  • AND THIS IS OUR FIRST ZOOM HAD OF IN FROM AFRICA, SO THANK YOU

  • FOR CHRISTENING A WHOLE NEW CONTINENT FOR US.

  • >> I FEEL GOOD ABOUT THAT.

  • >> Stephen: IN KENYA, THERE'S NO CHANCE ANYBODY THERE KNOWS MY

  • SHOW, IS THERE?

  • >> OH, THEY DO.

  • >> Stephen: NO, REALLY?

  • >> YES.

  • >> Stephen: REALLY?

  • YOU DON'T HAVE TO JUST SAY THAT ( LAUGHS )

  • >> YOU'RE A GLOBAL ICON.

  • ( LAUGHTER ).

  • >> Stephen: THANK YOU.

  • YOU'RE MY FAVORITE GUEST OF THE NIGHT.

  • MARTIN FREEMAN'S GOT TO GO OVER A HIGH BAR NOW.

  • WE LOVE YOUR FILMS, BUT YOU ACTUALLY STARTED ON THE LIVE ON

  • THE STAGE, AS A LOT OF ACTORS DO.

  • I UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU WERE 14 YOU HAD A CHANCE TO PLAY

  • JULIETTE.

  • WHAT WAS THAT EXPERIENCE LIKE?

  • HOW DID YOU GET THAT PART ON YOUR FIRST PROFESSIONAL

  • PRODUCTION?

  • >> YEAH, SO I MEAN, AT THAT POINT, I HAD DONE PASSES BY AND

  • SCHOOL PLAYS AND MY AUNT CONVINCED ME TO AUDITION FOR THE

  • ONLY PROFESSIONAL THEATER AT THE TIME, PHOENIX PLAYERS.

  • AND I AUDITIONED FOR THE MUSICAL PRODUCTION OF "CINDERELLA."

  • I DID NOT GET THE PART.

  • I DID NOT GET ANY PART IN THAT, BECAUSE THE DIRECTOR FELT I WAS

  • TOO YOUNG.

  • A FEW MONTHS LATER I GOT A LETTER SAYING HE WANTED TO SEE

  • ME, AND I WENT IN WITH MY MOM, AND HE OFFERED ME JULIETTE IN

  • "ROMEO AND JULIETTE."

  • AND I BROKE DOWN AND CRIED BECAUSE I GREW UP LISTENING TO

  • MY DAD RECITE SHAKESPEARE TO ME.

  • SO IT WAS LIKE A LANGUAGE OF LOVE.

  • I'VE ALWAYS FELT VERY CONNECTED TO SHAKESPEARE, AND HERE I WAS

  • GOING TO BE PLAYING THE LEAD IN THE MOST FAMOUS LOVE STORY.

  • I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT.

  • >> Stephen: YOU KINDLY SENT US THIS PHOTO RIGHT HERE.

  • CAN YOU TELL-- IF YOU CAN SEE THIS RIGHT HERE-- TELL US WHAT

  • THE PEOPLE AT HOME ARE SEEING RIGHT NOW.

  • WHO IS THAT?

  • IS THAT PLAYING LADY CAPOUELLETTE OR IS THAT LADY

  • PLAYING THE NURSE?

  • >> THAT LADY IS PLAYING THE NURSE, AND THAT'S THE SCENE

  • WHERE I AM ASKING HER TO TELL ME WHAT SHE'S FOUND OUT FROM ROMEO.

  • >> Stephen: WHAT DID 14-YEAR-OLD YOU THINK OF THIS

  • TRAGIC ROMANCE?

  • >> WELL, I MEAN, IT WAS-- LEONARDO DICAPRIO HAD JUST COME

  • OUT IN THE FILM "ROMEO AND JULIETTE."

  • >> Stephen: WITH CLAIRE DANS.

  • >> YES, AND I WAS MADLY IN LOVE WITH HIM.

  • FOR ME, THIS WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO BE THAT MUCH CLOSER TO

  • LEONARDO DICAPRIO.

  • AT THAT TIME, LOVE WAS-- THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT LOVE WAS, THIS

  • THING WHERE A MAN COMES AND CLAIMS YOU AND TAKES YOU AWAY,

  • KNIGHT IN SHINING ARMOR.

  • YOU DIE FOR EACH OTHER.

  • YEAH.

  • NOW I SEE A VERY DIFFERENT THING.

  • >> Stephen: NOW, THIS IS-- THIS IS A FASCINATING PROJECT.

  • YOU'RE TAKING ON JULIETTE AGAIN AS PART OF THIS BILINGUAL RADIO

  • PLAY BEING PRODUCED BY THE PUBLIC.

  • AND DIRECTED BY YOUR FRIEND SAHEEM ALI.

  • WHAT DO YOU AS AN ADULT THINK OF JULIETTE NOW?

  • BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS HE WILL SAY ABOUT JULIETTE, WHEN

  • YOU'RE HER AGE, YOU'RE NOT OLD ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND JULIETTE.

  • WHEN YOU'RE OLD ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND, YOU'RE TOO OLD TO

  • PLAY JULIETTE.

  • >> EXACTLY.

  • THAT'S WHY RADIO PLAY-- RADIO PLAY IS GREAT.

  • IT'S A GREAT CHANCE TO DO IT AGAIN.

  • AND I DON'T THINK I WOULD HAVE DONE IT AGAIN IF IT WASN'T THIS

  • NEW, BEING IN THE MEDIUM OF RADIO, AND ALSO BEING BILINGUAL.

  • I REALLY WANTED TO TRY MY HAND AT WORKING IN SPANISH.

  • BUT, I MEAN, FROM THIS POINT IN MY LIFE, BEFORE I SAW WHAT

  • OPPORTUNITIES OF LOVE THESE TWO HAD, AND NOW I JUST-- I REMEMBER

  • WHEN I WAS GETTING READY FOR IT, I FELT LIKE OH, MY GOD, THESE

  • KIDS ARE SO IRRESPONSIBLE, YOU KNOW.

  • THEY MEET EACH OTHER AND BEFORE YOU KNOW IT, THEY'RE MARRIED THE

  • NEXT DAY AND THEY DIE THE NEXT.

  • LIKE, THAT'S A LOT TO GIVE UP FOR A DUDE YOU JUST MET.

  • SO, ANYWAY, I HAD TO PUT ASIDE MY PRAGMATISM AT MY AGE AND MY

  • FEAR OF HEARTBREAK TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THEIR DEDICATION TO

  • EACH OTHER.

  • >> Stephen: HOW DO YOU DO A RADIO PLAY WITH THIS MUCH, YOU

  • KNOW, CLIMBING AND KISSING AND FIGHTING AND POISONING?

  • HOW DO YOU DO THE PHYSICALITY OF "ROMEO AND JULIETTE," BECAUSE

  • THERE'S A LOT GOING ON.

  • >> TELL ME ABOUT IT.

  • I MEAN, DOING A PLAY OVER ZOOM WITH ALL THE TECHNICAL ISSUES ON

  • YOUR SHOULDERS AND TRYING TO CONNECT WITH ACTORS WITH

  • GLITCHES AND-- IT WAS A MAJOR HEADACHE.

  • AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD THE HARDEST-- ONE OF THE

  • THINGS WE GRAPPLED WITH WAS, LIKE THE KISSING, ESPECIALLY.

  • I REMEMBER ME AND JUAN CASTANO, WHO PLAYS ROMEO, HAVING REALLY

  • EXPLICIT CONVERSATIONS ABOUT OKAY, OKAY, WHO STARTED THIS

  • KISS?

  • HOW DO WE FEEL ABOUT IT?

  • IS IT A PECK?

  • IS IT A MOUTH-OPEN KISS?

  • IS IT A FRENCH KISS?

  • HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT IT?

  • YOU KNOW, ALL THESE THINGS THAT YOU JUST WOULD NOT HAVE TO TALK

  • ABOUT IF YOU JUST HAD THE CHANCE TO PRACTICE AN ACTUAL KISS.

  • SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO GET CREATIVE IN THAT WAY SO THAT WE

  • COULD BE TELLING THE SAME STORY.

  • >> Stephen: HOW DO YOU DO THE KISS?

  • WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO MAKE THE SOUND?

  • >> YOU HAVE THESE TWO FINGERS HERE.

  • I PERFECTED THIS.

  • IF YOU WANT A CLOSED KISS, YOU CLOSE YOUR FINGERS, AND THEN...

  • AND KISS IT LIKE THAT.

  • AND IF YOU WANT, LIKE, A SOGGY, WET KISS, YOU KEEP IT OPEN.

  • ( LAUGHTER ) I CAN TEACH A WHOLE MASTER

  • CLASS.

  • >> Stephen: JST LIKE 14-YEAR-OLDS PRACTICE.

  • >> BASICALLY.

  • >> Stephen: YOU'VE BEEN BUSY DURING THE PANDEMIC.

  • BESIDE ALL THE OTHER PROJECTS, YOU'VE ALSO BEEN AN EXECUTIVE

  • PRODUCER OF THIS CARTOON CALLED "SUPER SEMA."

  • WHO IS "SUPER SEMA," AND WHAT'S HER SUPER POWER?

  • >> SUPER SEMA IS A YOUNG KENYAN GIRL WHO IS REALLY INTO STEM,

  • AND SHE USES STEM-- STEM TECHNOLOGY-- STEM THOUGHTS,

  • IDEAS, TO SAVE THE DAY FROM AN EVIL MAN CALLED TABOR.

  • AND IT'S-- I'M SO PROUD OF IT.

  • IT'S-- WHEN I FIRST SAW IT, I JUST WEPT BECAUSE I JUST NEVER

  • HAD THAT KIND OF REPRESENTATION WHEN I WAS YOUNGER.

  • AND I'M SO HAPPY THAT SHE EXISTS TO EXCITE PEOPLE, YOUNG KIDS

  • ABOUT STEM.

  • >> Stephen: DID YOU-- DID YOU HAVE ANY SUPER POWERS WHEN YOU

  • WERE YOUNG?

  • >> OH, I THINK MY SUPER POWER IS MY IMAGINATION.

  • I USED TO COMMIT TO MY IMAGINATION.

  • I REMEMBER -- >> Stephen: LIKE IMAGINARY

  • FRIENDS OR SOMETHING?

  • OR...

  • >> WELL, YES, I DID HAVE IMAGINARY FRIENDS, TO BE VERY

  • HONEST.

  • ( LAUGHS ) I HAD FULL-BLOWN CONVERSATIONS

  • WITH PEOPLE WHO WEREN'T THERE.

  • I THINK MY MOM WAS QUITE-- QUITE CONCERNED FOR MY MENTAL HEALTH.

  • BUT I REMEMBER ONCE I WAS PLAYING HIDE AND SEEK WITH MY

  • SISTER, AND I REALLY COMMITTED TO IT.

  • IT WAS IN THE NIGHT.

  • AND I HID IN BETWEEN THE DINING TABLE AND THE CHAIRS.

  • AND I HAPPEN TO FALL ASLEEP THERE, AND THEY LOOKED FOR ME

  • ALL NIGHT AND DIDN'T FIND ME ( LAUGHS ).

  • >> Stephen: OH, MY GOD.

  • >> YEAH, SO I-- I MEANT BUSINESS.

  • >> Stephen: WOW.

  • THEY PROBABLY THOUGHT YOU'D RUN OFF WITH YOUR ROMEO

  • ( LAUGHS ) >> Stephen: WELL, THE RADIO

  • PLAY OF T "ROMEO Y JULIETA"

  • IS AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD THIS THURSDAY FROM THE PUBLIC THEATER

  • AND WNYC STUDIOS.

  • LUPITA NYONG'O, EVERYBODY.

  • WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH MARTIN FREEMAN.

♪ ♪ ♪ >> Stephen: HEY, WELCOME BACK,

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