KENNETH: What's up, everyone.

This is Disney+ Deets, where we break down everything

you need to know about your favorite Disney+

movies and series.

I'm Kenneth!

MARCELLUS: And I'm Marcellus.

And not to toot our own horns, but we're

pretty much the biggest Disney+ fans out there.

KENNETH: No, let's do it!

Toot toot!

Beep beep!

That's right!

MARCELLUS: Let's get into it!

[INTENSE MUSICAL BUILDUP]

[INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC IN BACKGROUND]

MARCELLUS: Today, of course, we're going all

into the nitty gritty of what you need to know

and what you maybe didn't know about

none other than "Tim Burton's The Nightmare Before Christmas."

KENNETH: Marcellus, this is a classic.

MARCELLUS: Oh, yeah.

KENNETH: I have been a fan of this since it was in theaters.

MARCELLUS: Well, um, you're pretty up there in age,

so I'm sure you remember it all.

Haha!

KENNETH: You know what?

No one asked you, but I was 14.

OK?

Anyway, what's the thing that we need to know, sir?

MARCELLUS: Well, Ken, the first thing you need to know

is that this movie is based on a poem written and illustrated

by the Tim Burton.

It was late one fall in Halloweenland,

and the air had quite a chill.

Against the moon, a skeleton sat, alone upon a hill.

MARCELLUS: He wrote it in the early '80s

while he was an animator at Disney.

KENNETH: That's right.

He worked on "The Fox and the Hound,"

"Tron," and "The Black Cauldron."

MARCELLUS: Now streaming on Disney+.

KENNETH: Nice plug, Marcellus.

[APPLAUSE] MARCELLUS: I'm proud.

KENNETH: Look how Tim Burton that is.

MARCELLUS: That's the iconic shot.

KENNETH: We were just brought into the world

and the magic that is "The Nightmare Before Christmas."

MARCELLUS: Oh my gosh.

KENNETH: Marcellus, are you right-handed or left-handed?

MARCELLUS: I'm right-handed.

KENNETH: OK, so then you can imagine how hard it was

for them to draw with their nondominant hand, which

is exactly what the artist had to do to give

the film its unsettling look.

MARCELLUS: That's why it feels so creepy.

KENNETH: Exactly.

Kind of like how you comb your hair in the morning.

MARCELLUS: (LAUGHS)

I-I deserve it.

I probably draw just as poorly with my left hand as my right,

so maybe I could've helped.

KENNETH: Nope.

Keep your day job.

MARCELLUS: Thank you for believing in me.

(KENNETH LAUGHS)

MARCELLUS: But anyway, it's crazy to think

about how many individual frames it takes to pull

something like this off. KENNETH: Mm-hmm.

MARCELLUS: I know it had to be a lot.

KENNETH: Almost 110,000, to be exact.

MARCELLUS: Oh, I would just stop.

KENNETH: Let's just talk about how much

work actually goes into a movie like this.

MARCELLUS: Let's talk about it!

[SCREAMS]

[GASPS IN FRIGHT]

KENNETH: So they basically shot the movie on 20 sound stages

at the same time.

MARCELLUS: Uh-huh.

KENNETH: They had about eight camera crews,

20 to 30 lights was lighting up each scene.

MARCELLUS: Wow.

KENNETH: And then it was like 13 artists working at a time.

OK, at the end of one week, that was just one minute of film.

MARCELLUS: A week? KENNETH: That's it.

MARCELLUS: That's how long it takes for my family to cook

Thanksgiving dinner, Kenneth. KENNETH: I remember.

I was there. [MARCELLUS LAUGHS]

MARCELLUS: But, just like my family,

these are very patient people.

The detail is everything, and that's

what really blows my mind.

The costumes, the sets, and all of the facial expressions.

These characters blink, and they have to do that by hand.

KENNETH: Absolutely. MARCELLUS: And it's so perfect.

It looks so fluid. KENNETH: Mm-hmm.

MARCELLUS: And it looks like they're really moving.

And I also love the little fact of how small their feet are.

I don't know if anyone caught that.

KENNETH: (LAUGHS)

Why you worried about the size of they feet?

MARCELLUS: I just love it!

KENNETH: OK, Marcellus, look.

These models are amazing.

MARCELLUS: Yeah!

KENNETH: Like, Jack Skellington apparently

had around 400 different heads.

MARCELLUS: Wow.

KENNETH: And Sally had 10 heads, each head making 11

different facial expressions.

And that's how they capture her emotions.

MARCELLUS: Can't do the math on that.

KENNETH: Oh, I did.

It's 110 faces.

Now I can't even make 110 different facial expressions.

But my mama sure could when she was mad at me.

MARCELLUS: I know exactly what you're thinking.

[KENNETH LAUGHS]

MARCELLUS: But look at this.

Look at the characters in this shot.

They made over 200 puppets for this movie,

and not just Jack Skellington, but all of them

literally had their own hinges.

That's what makes them so posable.

KENNETH: Everything that moves in this movie

has to be so thought out.

You see right here, Santa's list?

MARCELLUS: I see it.

KENNETH: It looks like it's just a little sheet of paper,

but it's actually two sheets of paper

with tin foil in the middle to make

it easy to shape, like a little tin foil sandwich!

MARCELLUS: Oh, you are making me hungry,

and you know I love sandwiches, and it's lunchtime.

[KENNETH LAUGHS]

KENNETH: I know. Oh, oh, oh, oh.

MARCELLUS: That bathtub also scares me,

because when I was younger, we had a bathtub with legs

like that, too, and I thought it could walk.

[KENNETH LAUGHS]

KENNETH: You didn't want to take a bath.

MARCELLUS: I did not want to take a bath because--

KENNETH: You thought it was going to walk out.

MARCELLUS: Yes, and I'm looking at this,

and I'm like, oh, my gosh.

Triggered!

KENNETH: I'll bet your mama was like, boy,

if you don't get in that tub! - Lock!

- Shock! - Barrel!

MARCELLUS: Oh!

I love the trick-or-treaters.

Do you know who the voices are?

KENNETH: I know you're going to tell me!

MARCELLUS: Catherine O'Hara, who voices Sally--

KENNETH: Hi, Sally.

MARCELLUS: Also voices Shock.

- And we thought you didn't like us.

MARCELLUS: Barrel was voiced by Danny

Elfman, the film's composer.

- Whatever you say, Jack.

MARCELLUS: And Lock is Paul Reubens.

- Wouldn't dream of it, Jack. [TRICK-OR-TREATERS LAUGH]

KENNETH: First of all, Catherine O'Hara--

love her. MARCELLUS: Brilliant.

KENNETH: Paul Reubens, love him.

MARCELLUS: Mmm.

KENNETH: And I am amazed by Danny Elfman.

MARCELLUS: Right?

We have to talk more about Danny Elfman.

KENNETH: Absolutely!

Danny. Elfman.

Legend.

MARCELLUS: Danny Elfman is, of course,

the film's composer, and the singing

voice of Jack Skellington.

So usually, musicals like this start with the finished script

and then they fit the songs in.

But in the case of this movie, the music actually

helped influence