Important note I want to make There's a morals character clause in the current Hall of Fame voting.

The commissioner at the time was Kenesaw Landis, the first MLB commissioner who made sure African Americans could not play Major League Baseball.

So so much for morality and character with that clause and will be insider.

Jeff Passan joining us now, Jeff, Great to have you with us, and I understand that you have a very strong position on the Hall of Fame, So I want to hear from you first.

Is it a big deal to even get into the Hall of Fame?

At this point?

I think the fact, Molly, that the Hall of Fame was dominating trending topics on Twitter last night illustrates that it is still a big deal to people.

And yet my personal position as someone who has voted in the Hall of Fame and who gave up his Hall of Fame vote because he thought that the entire process had been completely corrupted is that the whole thing's a museum the Hall of Fame exists to tell the history of baseball in the history of baseball has all kinds of unsavory characters.

It has warts.

It has low moments.

It has high moments in the idea that Barry Bonds, arguably the greatest hitter since Babe Ruth, that Roger Clemens, one of the great pitchers off all time, and even Curt Schilling, who statistically is probably a borderline guy but for me would have been in based on his on field play alone.

The fact that they're not going to be in there is whitewashing the history of baseball.

And I hate that idea that people that fans, that those who go to Cooperstown, New York, aren't mature enough toe walk into this building that is so full of sanctimony and say this isn't some special miraculously place that got dropped by the baseball gods onto this little burg in New York.

This is a museum, and museums are meant to tell us what have happened in the past, and what has happened in the past is ugly and is dirty and is complicated.

Um, climax.

The Hall of Fame is a very big deal.

The Hall of Fame is a very big deal.

As Jeff points out, whether you like it or not, it's a huge deal to get into the Hall of Fame.

And let me just say this.

The voting should be uncomplicated.

In fact, just put me in charge.

I have this whole thing figured out.

It's really very simple.

For those who would say anyone who's ever cheated is disqualified.

That's ridiculous.

Gaylord Perry, the spinner in me, right?

Like stop it.

You guys threw spitballs and admitted it their whole career There in the Hall of Fame.

Everyone shut up about that.

It's very, very simple.

It's not.

The cheating disqualifies you.

It's that if you cheated and it changed you, it could be demonstrated.

It changed you from something you weren't into.

Something you became and what that was was a Hall of Famer.

Then you're not in the Hall of Fame.

But if you were already a Hall of Famer when you cheated, then you are in the Hall of Fame.

So Barry, like Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa, should never get a whiff of the Hall of Fame because without cheating, they would have never gotten close.

Now Barry Bonds, when he started in was a first ballot Hall of Famer and a top three or four left fielder who ever lived.

He is in the Hall of Fame.

It's a no brainer.

Roger Clemens was a borderline Hall of Famer when all of a sudden he went to Toronto when he seemed to be declining and then won the pitching triple Crown.

Two years in a row and everything.

But I think eso you?

You want to say no to Roger claims.

I think it's silly.

I think Roger Clemens is also a Hall of Famer because he pitched quite a bit longer after that, at whatever level.

He wasn't done with his career when he was already borderline and Curt Schilling.

If this is complicated for people, I don't know why whatever you think about his politics or irresponsible things, he said, or whatever.

Curt Schilling was a runner up Cy Young Award three times and a top five finish er, another time, he struck out more than 303 100 guys.

Three times he was one of the best strikeout to walk ratio is in his prime of all time.

He won 20 games in an era where it was still not that easy to dio, um, multiple times.

And not only that, if you think he was borderline, which he was minus the postseason than to ignore the most highly leveraged games there are is silly.

And he's one of the greatest pressure pitchers who ever lived in a long postseason career, where he had 13 decisions, went 11 and two with a sub one whip and almost a sub to er a barely over to er A.

He did that in the teeth off the steroids era teams he pitched for, largely because he pitched for them, won the world.

Siri's more than one different franchise.

Curt Schilling is obviously a Hall of Famer.

So is Barry Bonds.

And by the way, so is Roger Clemens.

This ain't that hard.

It's not that hard.

And let me tell you something else, too.

Let me be very, very direct and clear.

I don't like Curt Schilling a little bit.

I don't like it at all.

You look at some of the things that you look at some of the things that he says the way that he acts, the things that the people that he has said things about, including myself and others.

My God, let me tell you something right now, The only thing that has stopped me from going after him is the fact that I worked for the worldwide leader because ain't nobody scared of his sorry behind as a person.

I don't like him a little bit, but I'm man enough to acknowledge this man is a Hall of Famer.

There is no excuse and Max you throughout all the number 3 300 strikeout seasons.

The strikeout to walk ratio is top notch.

I mean, this dude is like five and old all time in clutch situations.

In big time games, he's undefeated.

You consider the way that he has performed This Hall of Fame process is an absolute positive joke, and it's classless is he can be.

I'm certainly not going to reciprocate by exuding the same or displaying the same kind of classless nous that he has.

Nothing that he does off the field should take away from what he has done on the field.

What he has done on the field is Hall of Fame quality.

He should be in the Hall of Fame.

It's an absolute joke that he is not in the Hall of Fame.

And what Molly pointed out that the very beginning with Judge Landis, the first commissioner of baseball who played a significant role in keeping blacks from participating in the sport.

How in the hell do you have a morals clause in the baseball Hall of Fame when, when, when the very start, the process, the starting process off.

All of this omitted blacks.

How do you do that?

And then sit on a moral high ground and hold on a century?

Now, for crying out loud?

It is.

It is.

It is.

It is utterly ridiculous, is hypocritical.

And I want to applaud passing for for giving up his Hall of Fame vote.

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