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  • Transcriber: TED Translators Admin Reviewer: Rhonda Jacobs

  • So here's a thought.

  • The fossil fuel industry knows how to stop causing global warming,

  • but they're waiting for somebody else to pay,

  • and no one is calling them out on it.

  • I was one of the authors of the 2018 IPCC report

  • on 1.5 degrees Celsius.

  • And after the report was published,

  • I gave a lot of talks, including one to a meeting of young engineers

  • of one of the world's major oil and gas companies.

  • And at the end of the talk, I got the inevitable question,

  • "Do you personally believe there's any chance

  • of us limiting global warming to 1.5 degrees?"

  • IPCC reports are not really about personal opinions,

  • so I turned the question around and said,

  • "Well, if you had to fully decarbonize your product,

  • that is, dispose safely and permanently of one ton of carbon dioxide

  • for every ton generated by the oil and gas you sell,

  • by 2050, which is what it would take,

  • would you be able to do so?"

  • "Would the same rules apply to everybody?" somebody asked,

  • meaning, of course, their competition.

  • I said, "OK, yeah, maybe they would."

  • Now, the management just looked at their shoes;

  • they didn't want to answer the question.

  • But the young engineers just shrugged and said,

  • "Yes, of course we would, like it's even a question."

  • So I want to talk to you

  • about what those young engineers know how to do:

  • decarbonize fossil fuels.

  • Not decarbonize the economy,

  • or even decarbonize their own company,

  • but decarbonize the fuels themselves,

  • and this matters

  • because it turns out to be essential to stopping global warming.

  • At a global level, climate change turns out to be surprisingly simple:

  • To stop global warming

  • we need to stop dumping carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.

  • And since about 85 percent of the carbon dioxide we currently emit

  • comes from fossil fuels and industry,

  • we need to stop fossil fuels from causing further global warming.

  • So how do we do that?

  • Well, it turns out there's really only two options.

  • The first option is, in effect, to ban fossil fuels.

  • That's what "absolute zero" means.

  • No one allowed to extract, sell, or use fossil fuels

  • anywhere in the world on pain of a massive fine.

  • If that sounds unlikely, it's because it is.

  • And even if a global ban were possible,

  • do you or I in wealthy countries in 2020

  • have any right to tell the citizens

  • of poor and emerging economies in the 2060s

  • not to touch their fossil fuels?

  • Some people argue that if we work hard enough

  • we can drive down the cost of renewable energy so far

  • that we won't need to ban fossil fuels,

  • the people will stop using them of their own accord.

  • This kind of thinking is dangerously optimistic.

  • For one thing, renewable energy costs might not go down as fast as they hope.

  • I mean, remember,

  • nuclear energy was meant to be too cheap to meter in the 1970s,

  • but even more importantly,

  • we've no idea how low fossil fuel prices might fall

  • in response to that competition.

  • There are so many uses of fossil carbon,

  • from aviation fuel to cement production,

  • it's not enough for carbon-free alternatives to outcompete the big ones,

  • to stop fossil fuels from causing further global warming,

  • carbon-free alternatives would need to outcompete them all.

  • So the only real alternative to stop fossil fuels causing global warming

  • is to decarbonize them.

  • I know that sounds odd,

  • decarbonize fossil fuels.

  • What it means is,

  • one ton of carbon dioxide has to be safely and permanently disposed of

  • for every ton generated by the continued use of fossil fuels.

  • Now, consumers can't do this,

  • so the responsibility has to lie with the companies

  • that are producing and selling the fossil fuels themselves.

  • Their engineers know how to do it.

  • In fact, they've known for decades.

  • The simplest option is to capture the carbon dioxide as it's generated

  • from the chimney of a power station, or blast furnace, or refinery.

  • You purify it, compress it, and re-inject it back underground.

  • If you inject it deep enough and into the right rock formations,

  • it stays there, just like the hydrocarbons it came from.

  • To stop further global warming,

  • permanent storage has to mean tens of thousands of years at least,

  • which is why trying to mop up our fossil carbon emissions

  • by planting trees can help,

  • but it can only be a temporary stopgap.

  • For some applications like aviation fuel, for example,

  • we can't capture the carbon dioxide at source,

  • so we have to recapture it, take it back out of the atmosphere.

  • That can be done; there's companies already doing it,

  • but it's more expensive.

  • And this points to the single most important reason

  • why recapturing and safe disposal of carbon dioxide

  • is not already standard practice:

  • cost.

  • It's infinitely cheaper just to dump carbon dioxide into the atmosphere

  • than it is to capture it and dispose of it safely back underground.

  • But the good news is,

  • we don't need to dispose of 100 percent

  • of the carbon dioxide we generate from burning fossil fuels right away.

  • Economists talk about cost-effective pathways,

  • by which they mean ways of achieving a result

  • without unfairly dumping too much of the cost

  • onto the next generation.

  • And a cost-effective pathway,

  • which gets us to decarbonizing fossil fuels,

  • 100 percent carbon capture and storage by 2050,

  • which is what net-zero means,

  • takes us through 10 percent carbon capture in 2030,

  • 50 percent in 2040,

  • 100 percent in 2050.

  • To put that in context,

  • we are currently capturing and storing less than 0.1 percent.

  • So don't get me wrong,

  • decarbonizing fossil fuels is not going to be easy.

  • It's going to mean building a carbon dioxide disposal industry

  • comparable in size to today's oil and gas industry.

  • The only entities in the world

  • that have the engineering capability

  • and the deep pockets to do this

  • are the companies that produce the fossil fuels themselves.

  • We can all help by slowing down our use of fossil carbon

  • to buy them time to decarbonize it,

  • but they still have to get on with it.

  • Now, adding the cost of carbon dioxide disposal

  • will make fossil fuel-based products more expensive,

  • and a 10 percent storage requirement by 2030, for example,

  • might add a few pence to the cost of a liter of petrol.

  • But, unlike a tax,

  • that money is clearly being spent on solving the problem,

  • and of course, consumers will respond,

  • perhaps by switching to electric cars, for example,

  • but they won't need to be told to do so.

  • And crucially, if developing countries agreed to use fossil fuels

  • that have been progressively decarbonized in this way,

  • then they never need accept limits on the absolute amount that they consume,

  • which they fear might constrain their growth.

  • Over the past couple of years,

  • more and more people have been talking

  • about the importance of carbon dioxide disposal.

  • But they're still talking about it

  • as if it's to be paid for by philanthropy or tax breaks.

  • But why should foundations or the taxpayer pay to clean up

  • after a still-profitable industry?

  • No. We can decarbonize fossil fuels.

  • And if we do decarbonize fossil fuels,

  • as well as getting things like deforestation under control,

  • we will stop global warming.

  • And if we don't, we won't.

  • It's as simple as that.

  • But it's going to take a movement to make this happen.

  • So how can you help?

  • Well, it depends on who you are.

  • If you work or invest in the fossil fuel industry,

  • don't walk away from the problem by selling off your fossil fuel assets

  • to someone else who cares less than you do.

  • You own this problem.

  • You need to fix it.

  • Decarbonizing your portfolio helps no one but your conscience.

  • You must decarbonize your product.

  • If you're a politician or a civil servant,

  • you need to look at your favorite climate policy and ask:

  • How is it helping to decarbonize fossil fuels?

  • How is it helping to increase the fraction

  • of carbon dioxide we generate from fossil fuels

  • that is safely and permanently disposed of?

  • If it isn't, then it may be helping to slow global warming,

  • which is useful,

  • but unless you believe in that ban, it isn't going to stop it.

  • Finally, if you're an environmentalist,

  • you probably find the idea of the fossil fuel industry itself

  • playing such a central role in solving the climate change problem disturbing.

  • "Won't those carbon dioxide reservoirs leak?"

  • you'll worry,

  • "Or won't some in the industry cheat?"

  • Over the coming decades, there probably will be leaks,

  • and there may be cheats,

  • but those leaks and those cheats

  • will make decarbonizing fossil fuels harder,

  • they don't make it optional.

  • Global warming won't wait for the fossil fuel industry to die.

  • And just calling for it to die

  • is letting it off the hook from solving its own problem.

  • In these divided times, we need to look for help

  • and maybe even friends in unexpected places.

  • It's time to call on the fossil fuel industry

  • to help solve the problem their product has created.

  • Their engineers know how,

  • we just need to get the management to look up from their shoes.

  • Thank you.

Transcriber: TED Translators Admin Reviewer: Rhonda Jacobs

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