For 90 of the 120 years of its existence, it has lingered in opposition.

It is, by extension, very good picking leaders.

Well, all right, who lose this'll?

Last 10 years has been some of the worst thank you and goodbye.

Yet the result has been the same, if not worse, in nearly every direction.

Nearly every compass point it is hollowed.

Our exit poll is suggesting that there will be a conservative majority.

I'm just sorry that way it has fallen to Kia Rodney Starmer, Labor's 19th leader, who wants to be only its seventh prime minister.

His is a party still wrestling with its recent past in a country it seems no longer toe understand.

Yet in many ways we know so little about Starmer, the man who would be prime minister.

I think he's grounded.

E don't think he's got a moral center that is obviously highly intelligent and believes in a set of values.

He is very loyally.

He's a bit a bit boring in how he operates.

He will become one of the greats.

I am that I'm absolutely convinced stuff But this inscrutable, even prim figure is, in fact, a gambler.

He has made a big gamble since becoming leader, each a contested assessment of his political situation on where the country's future politics will come to bay.

Whether you kier Starmer in some ways Ran is the heir to Jeremy Corbyn.

His first gamble internally anyway, has been to lead a ziff.

He were almost anything but he's competing.

To become leader of the party was pretty pretty good.

The fact that he put a wonderful video together seeing how left wing he actually waas the fact that he had represented the miners, anybody who didn't know who cares style awas would think that we've got somebody here was probably is left wing and a mawr diverted into socialism than what Jeremy Corbyn was.

But of course, that was never the kiss.

When victory was secured quickly, nearly all of the major Corbyn ites were removed from the shadow cabinet.

Elements of the left cried betrayal.

Yeah, I don't think you could put people in the shadow Cabinet based on their politics.

You have to put in there based on ability.

That's what key to stand carbonized old shadow cabinet didn't have ability.

Um, I also making those decisions, but there's nobody in the shadow cabinet now.

I wouldn't have wanted to see him.

God.

This has all been met with little resistance so far, but the left hasn't been extinguished far from it.

In the parliamentary Labor Party in particular, it's stronger than it's been for decades.

The left has to regroup, but the left is still very, very vibrant on will play a key role.

That's why I've said Takia, that his his argument about wanting a united party.

He's right about that.

But he shouldn't forget his left wing and I'm gonna be his friendly conscience along the way.

Tell me what democracy looks like on there are old wounds still festering, too.

Some who, far from seeing Starmer as the answer, blame him for the party's abject defeat.

Our options must include campaigning for a public vote on.

Nobody is rolling out remain as an option off course.

Kier Waas, one of the men, if not the men protagonist for moving towards a second referendum.

He did everything in his power politically to make sure that we moved towards a second referendum.

They had strong beliefs.

But frankly, they shouldn't have bean able or allowed to express those beliefs from the shadow Cabinet.

They should have expressed those beliefs from the backbench.

You can't underestimate either.

The anger felt still on parts of the left about storms roll in the party's Brexit psycho drama.

You've got to remember that here hard, a project of reserves coming into the labor classes.

I blame his mother for calling and care.

Andi.

I wasn't going to work with him to solve that project.

You were suspicious of him.

Yeah, because you were cognizant, aware of his ambition, who kiss farmers.

Ambition is fairly apparent, and I think it's noticed what having been mystery remain away up until he got ready for the party, Only much from care about remain now.

Well, I've got to see.

It is fairly ironic to hear the on the new leadership get Brexit doing.

It brings tears to my eyes, just tears or a bit of anger as well.

Who was probably tears around you.

The intra labor battle has certainly been quietened by Covitz grip on our politics, but it hasn't gone away on some expect that it will reignite once again When the HRC report into institutional anti Semitism in the Labor Party under Jeremy Corbyn is finally delivered, it is widely expected to be damning, and some expect Starmer toe act on its conclusions a mark, a decisive break with what's come before.

Obviously, though, if there are individuals you know who are named in such a report, the leader and the National Executive Committee would have no alternative but to take action against them.

This debate, as so often surrounding anti Semitism and labor, is one about language.

But when McCloskey sat down with me, he used language that could be considered on anti Semitic trope.

Does it give you any pause at all that I conducted an interview with Peter Mandelson yesterday, where he was nothing but full of praise for cursed Alma?

Whatever P.

I stopped listening to what Peter Mantles and said many, many years ago, I would suggest that Peter just goes into a room and counters gold not fully about what's happening in the Labor Party.

Leave that to those of us that are interested in ordinary working people.

Peter Mandelson had a Jewish grandfather.

Mr.

McClosky maintains that the language used is not anti Semitic Stormers is a wily politics, unsurprising them?

When asked his favorite labor leader, he answered with the wily ist of all Harold Wilson.

Mr Wilson, are you overall that the prospect of being prime minister of Great Britain in many ways I supposedly sheer physical task is easier than that of being leader of the opposition?

In that wildness, there is something a little Wilsonian about Starmer.

But the thing Wilson had in spades an easy appeal in the party's old Heartlands is what some fear Starmer does not.

It explains his vault fast on what used to be the biggest issue off our lifetimes.

His biggest call.

We have to accept the fact Brexit is gone.

What we stayed in a really bad place in the sense of the dealer Johnson's trying to push forward is and what he promises, not what he signed, unfortunately, them.

But here gets that it's done.

We can't change that.

It's all down to Boris Johnson.

Now We have to win back Redwall seats, and to do that, we have to accept it's gone.

We need to get these seats back because they're working class seats.

They work that other people and we need to be there for them.

Another of storms gambles that these seats can be one back, in other words, that a center left party can stop the bleeding between the working class on the left that we've seen across the West in recent years, that you're able to do so by escaping the cultural walls, simply not playing that game and crafting a more traditional politics around competence versus incompetence.

He is the ultimate anti populist.

In other words, he's making a bet that this country is neither culturally nor is politically divided, as Jeremy Corbyn or Boris Johnson thinks we are.

There's nothing to gain from driving wedges between people.

It wouldn't make sense politically to do that.

But also it's just not the right thing to do on the whole essence of low party.

And actually, I think of Key, really is about bringing people together.

Thio find what we have in common on to forge a future together as a country rather than a divide and rule strategy, which is to say is the wrong thing to do.

And it is wrong politically, a swell.

And that's why Kia is not getting drawn into these so called culture wars because keys whole approach is about bringing people together rather than driving wedges.

Isn't the risk from that that a It has actually very successful around the world in terms of people who do want to drive wedges?

Some people say you can't take a water pistol to a knife fight.

The approach of the last four elections hasn't succeeded.

Many in the party disagree that this approach misunderstands the politics of now.

I think a return Thio the politics of managerial is, um, it's saying we can manage the current system better than the Tories weaken, do what they're doing in amore effective way.

It's still a socialist, but he is a realist, and he knows that we have toe appeal to all sections off the British population in order to be able to form a government.

So he's pragmatic in that sense.

But it's a gamble which is bigger Still, it assumes that in doing all you can tow reinvigorate support among the older, more socially conservative labor Heartland voters that you don't lose what was gained in the Corbyn years.

Eight politics off dominance among the young and the wider liberal left It is a gamble, therefore, which assumes that those people have nowhere else to go.

You all have heard that before.

New Labor used to say that about white working class whites actually got nowhere else secretary what they wanted.

I don't believe in this narrative about culture wars.

It's really a euphemism.

Wanted to talk about race and feminism and LGBT rights.

You can't outside that issues, right?

Racial justice.

You just can't.

Do you think Starmer has tried to do that?

I would like to think that he hasn't trusted because it's us.

It's impossible.

How do you think he performed, for example, of the black lives matter, protests and George Floyd toppling of the statue of Edward?

Cost of them.

So there waas black lives matter protests, which he called a moment.

There's no question some people thought he got back.

Relishes tone almost issues.

Oh, there are many decisions ahead.

The biggest gamble is perhaps yet to be made in policy.

His allies tell us that his approach will be new.

At the last election, no one had ever heard the word coronavirus.

We are now in a totally different world to where we were before so the 2024 manifesto will be addressing and tackling the challenges off the 20 twenties and 20 thirties, not of 2019.

Will it be radical?

Will it be inspiring?

Absolutely, It will be.

There is an obvious but in perfect analogy for what Starmer is trying to do.

A traditional figure with a pitch to restore the dignity of political institutions, of politics itself, to make politics boring again, of putting the politics of the last decade to bed.

I think the election of mine will certainly help strengthen Kier Starmer on the Labor Party in Britain because they are, in some respects operating on trying to travel along parallel tracks.

I think he is prepared to make it absolutely clear that he's not going to be.

The competent face of Corbyn is, um, that project has come on gone.

It's now behind us.

Kier Starmer is egg Paradox, a man who ran as a radical whose greatest strength is that he is sensible, a man of caution taking risks.

He is this decade's answer to the last a counter revolution to the endless politics off upheaval both within his party on without But what if there is more upheaval to come where Britain itself comes apart, where Boris Johnson is no longer the question to be answered.

If he's not forever to be the second most famous care in labor history, answers to some or all of these questions he will need.

It was good or reporting.

We're following the filming of that interview.

Unite has clarified the comments Mr McCluskey made about Lord Mandelson.

In a statement, Unite said Mr Mandelson's religion was not relevant to the comments made by Mr McCluskey.

Indeed, to the best of our knowledge, Mr Mandelson is not Jewish.

The ordinary meaning of the statement made by Mr McCluskey is one of his belief that in recent years Mr Mandelson has had more interest in increasing his own wealth and in fighting for social justice.

For working class people, the suggestion of any anti Semitic meaning to the commentary would be ludicrous.