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  • My next guest is also in this book.

  • This is gonna be the thread through the whole thing, okay.

  • I thought you were reading this book.

  • Please welcome Jay Larson.

  • Jay how are you?

  • [Jay] I'm great.

  • I didn't know if Austin was done dropping any more credits,

  • you know what I mean?

  • He's gonna pop up as a picture in picture,

  • like when they play, you know, the less important game,

  • that's a blowout

  • and he's gonna be just dropping credits in there.

  • 'Cause he's booking things as we speak.

  • He just booked right now.

  • Are you working?

  • Are you staying busy? Oh yeah look at this.

  • [Jay] I saw you asked Austin if he's done any commercials,

  • I directed a commercial during this whole thing.

  • Yeah, and then just for future reference,

  • if you could take all

  • of your questions based off of Austin credits,

  • it's gonna help us do a great thread for the show.

  • [Jay] That's you know what I mean?

  • I like unity and concise.

  • Yeah, okay.

  • So you directed a commercial pandemic wise,

  • which is it's already difficult enough to do a commercial

  • cause it's a hodgepodge crew.

  • People that have not worked together.

  • [Jay] Yeah.

  • Are we, are you doing this remotely

  • Or are you onset?

  • No, we did on set, we did two days.

  • One day on set in a church

  • and then another day out at a golf course.

  • Are you getting rapid tested before

  • or are they just winging it?

  • Got tested day before we had someone on set.

  • You got your temp checked three times throughout the day.

  • Everyone's in masks, social distance,

  • masks off for shooting.

  • But you're in a mask the whole time?

  • Yeah.

  • How does that work, cause you like to,

  • when you direct you like to scream an actor's faces.

  • [Jay] I get in people's faces big time, bro.

  • You have a breakfast so you're, you're on your game.

  • Don't eat my raisins.

  • [Jay] Get away from craft, sir.

  • Kevin Nealan was our lead.

  • And so like, I have such respect for Kevin Nealon,

  • like trying to give direction, I'd be like,

  • Hey Kevin, what if we, and he's like,

  • Oh yeah, you're gonna love this.

  • You're going to love what I do here.

  • And then everyone would just be laughing,

  • you're like, yeah, yeah, let's let's move on.

  • Don't got to do anything.

  • Yeah it was great.

  • Are you going to do more of those or was it such a weird

  • experience or was just like,

  • let's just wait or you like work?

  • [Jay] I had no problem with it.

  • I'm on a, I write on a show

  • and I wrote and directed five sketches for

  • the show during the pandemic as well.

  • I think if everyone is just cautious and you're smart

  • and you're safe.

  • I mean, you're seeing commercials with people in masks,

  • so clearly they're making content or shooting commercials

  • during Covid, you know what I mean?

  • Unless Jeep grand Cherokee knew about this and they

  • released the virus.

  • Are they behind it?

  • Is this something Lee Iacocca, you know,

  • was ahead of the game on,

  • I know that might be an old school reference for you and

  • maybe some of the audience,

  • but I'm educated and I'm informed,

  • you know what I mean?

  • Yeah, you're informed.

  • It is, it does change the relationship onset a little bit.

  • It's a little less collaborative and that everyone's afraid

  • of each other.

  • And also the writing room can be weird.

  • I've been in some writing rooms now where you don't know if

  • your joke that pitch bombed

  • or it's zoom bombed and it just crashed.

  • [Jay] Yeah, or there was just a delay.

  • What if it, it crushed?

  • But the delay was so long, you missed the tire response.

  • Yeah, and then you already back out,

  • like if someone pitches a joke, it's like, oh yeah,

  • so then he fills up the back of the truck with a bunch of

  • toasters and then that falls.

  • But yeah, I don't think we have the budget for that.

  • So we'll just, yeah, we'll move on.

  • [Jay] Yeah, well we can, we can rip on the guys maybe,

  • maybe later.

  • Yeah, I'm in a writer's room,

  • I have been the entire pandemic and it's like crazy.

  • We have some people in Florida and some people in LA.

  • So we were, you know,

  • like working out times and just making it work.

  • You just get so comfortable on zoom,

  • just being like, well,

  • let's just make it work.

  • I think moving forward,

  • industry-wise writer's room and even

  • some sets will be a little bit more remote because we've

  • proved that it can be done.

  • [Jay] I hope not. I hope that listen,

  • I'm all about being safe and we've been like completely safe

  • with our kids and like groceries.

  • I haven't eaten out anywhere,

  • but I also believe that like when we get control-

  • I say DJ Khalid, yeah.

  • You know what I mean?

  • Once we get control of this,

  • that we should,

  • writer's room you need to be next to people,

  • with people, riffing,

  • like getting a sense for them seeing them, like that's like,

  • there's such a,

  • it's such a part of the creative process that I think like,

  • I hope maybe there will be some rooms that will,

  • I think we should use it as like an advantage to be able to

  • be remote if someone needs to be.

  • But otherwise I think being in a room together,

  • like really benefits the writing.

  • Yeah, absolutely.

  • Because it is an energy thing where you need to throw out a

  • bunch of bad ideas to get to the good one.

  • And you can only really feel safe

  • doing that when everyone's doing that,

  • and you're all in the same room and you can pick up on

  • certain social cues,

  • like you'll read comments with this,

  • I could live habits like, Oh, this podcast boring.

  • And it's like, well,

  • it's just different than being on stage having to

  • deal with this delay.

  • I also think when you're in a zoom room,

  • you're constantly like the clock is constantly ticking.

  • Like when is this ending?

  • Whereas when you're in the writer's room,

  • so you might just like accept joke because you're like,

  • well, this thing has got to end some point.

  • Let's just get that joke done.

  • Whereas in a writer's room you could like be like,

  • all right, let's just wait on that.

  • Let's go work on this. And like, oh dude! You know?

  • How are you handling it with kids?

  • Are you homeschooling?

  • You're supervising homeschooling.

  • I'm not a big,

  • I don't want my six and a half year old on three hours of

  • zoom call.

  • So we de-enrolled them from school

  • and set up our home as a homeschool,

  • and then we hired a teacher,

  • that we like went through the COVID process with.

  • So now she like every day nine to two is with my kids,

  • and like they do project based learning activities,

  • learning.

  • They do field trips, you know,

  • it's a lot more organic and a higher engagement level

  • than zoom.

  • So you hired, so your essentially a principal.

  • Yeah, I'm VP, my wife got the principal.

  • I mean, it's not a big deal.

  • It's not a huge deal.

  • Seem really upset about it.

  • [Jay] It hasn't been a thing, dude.

  • It hasn't come up. It hasn't been an issue.

  • I'm not saying I have better credentials or whatever,

  • You know what I mean?

  • Do you have the same power as your,

  • your wife as the principal.

  • [Jay] Don't, you know, the structure of the principal,

  • vice principal?

  • I'm the fun guy.

  • Vice-principal kind of seems like, lunch is over,

  • you know, kind of serve at the lunch room

  • and then you're back in.

  • [Jay] Yeah, that sounds right.

  • That's kind of, that's pretty accurate.

  • You move everyone's cars when the car needs to back out.

  • [Jay] You gotta move cars, you know.

  • Hopefully you'll get a promotion,

  • So it's also on you to kind of keep the kids busy.

  • I saw you're building stuff,

  • You built a whole science experiment table outside.

  • I just love being interactive with my kids,

  • and so we built a science table.

  • I built them a Lego table.

  • I like doing adventures with them.

  • Like when the whole thing started,

  • my job was like the first two weeks of COVID,

  • they were like, let's just be loose.

  • And the kids were out of school,

  • so like, I would take them on hikes

  • and then find a picnic table,

  • and we'd like collect leaves and turn them into projects.

  • I just liked that idea, of like constantly making learning

  • a fun experience, you know?

  • Yeah, it's a great time to be picking up leaves

  • and anything you find on the street right now.

  • You know, like, what is that bacteria?

  • What better way to learn about COVID?

  • Getting COVID.

  • I think your kids are gonna find the vaccine,

  • on one of your leaf trips,

  • which is actually them just cleaning the yard.

  • Listen, when you say leaf trip,

  • it almost sounds like you're de-valuing it.

  • No, it sounds like I actually want to go on it.

  • It sounds like you're a great dad and talking to you,

  • makes me wish I had a great dad,

  • because it sounds, it sounds fun.

  • It is fun. Yeah.

  • It is very fun. They're fun.

  • They're wild kids. So they, they, they take to it.

  • What else have you been doing to keep them busy?

  • You've been showing them movies?

  • No.

  • Not at all.

  • [Jay] You know, what I did is I've been doing, like,

  • we did this field trip to the beach.

  • We went to the beach with like my buddy and his kids,

  • but we've been watching Goonies.

  • Are you a Goonies fan?

  • I wasn't allowed to watch a lot of movies growing up.

  • Like I thought Star Wars was the most boring movie,

  • Cause my parents had edited all the violent parts out.

  • So it's just a movie,

  • a bunch of people talking

  • and then a brown bathrobe falls on the ground.

  • Totally sucks.

  • No, I have, I've seen clips of it,

  • but I haven't seen the entirety of the movie.

  • [Jay] Yeah, well Goonies, Goonies is, you know,

  • it's Spielberg dude.

  • You're like, dude, this is Steven Spielberg.

  • And we showed it to the kids and they fell in love with it.

  • And you know,

  • there's a treasure hunt and there's a map they follow.

  • So after we watch it, I took the kids to El Matador beach,

  • which has got like rocks and caves.

  • And I made the night before, a treasure map and made it look

  • old and like, you know,

  • put old writing on it and put like the rocks.

  • I drew the rocks and put X marks the spots

  • so we got to the beach,

  • buried it in the sand by our mat.

  • And then when my buddy got there,

  • I went and took like a stick that was charred and put Xs on

  • the rocks where I had written them on the map.

  • And then at lunch, I was just like,

  • have my hand in the sand and I was like, Oh, what's this?

  • And I hand it to my son and he was just like,

  • (gasping) Dad!

  • And like the kids lost their minds.

  • And then we went on the treasure hunt.

  • We found the Xs,

  • I bottled coins or brought them and then hid them

  • and the kids found them.

  • And then it just turned into like,

  • their whole world was like,

  • we got to find more treasure dad,

  • we've got to find it.

  • We got to dig.

  • And I was like, I looked at my buddy.

  • I'm like, should we tell them like that this isn't real?

  • And he's like, no, dude, let them go.

  • I'm like, all right.

  • So now they just like,

  • they believe that One-Eyed Willy from Goonies lived.

  • So now they're just going to believe that every scenario

  • is, is possible.

  • You're going to be in your regular day life.

  • They get on a bus and they're like,

  • this is the bus from speed, don't let this bus stop.

  • They think this is baby Yoda for real dude.

  • Dad has the hookup with a very homemade version of Yoda.

  • What if someone else found the coins on the beach?

  • What if, what if you accidentally blew someone else's mind?

  • [Jay] I had the coins on me,

  • and then when we get to the X,

  • when they wouldn't look,

  • I would just go (whistling)

  • and I just drop it down and be like,

  • hey, what's that? And then they'd be like, you know.

  • Dads a genius.

  • [Jay] So Burr, you know,

  • Burr is a friend and Burrs in the Mandalorian,

  • and the kids made a video and we sent it to burr like,

  • hey, you were so great in the Mandalorian.

  • And then he sent them a message back and they were just

  • like, now, like, you'll see my son, like talking to kids,

  • like on the playground or in the pool and he'll be like,

  • Hey, have you seen the, have you seen the Mandalorian?

  • And the kid would be like, yeah.

  • And he's like, do you know, episode four, the guy,

  • the bounty hunter.

  • And I'm like, Hey, just chill out, dude.

  • You know what I mean? Like-

  • He's already dropping names.

  • So your son is and that's been a challenging experience.

  • That's really cool that you have that, that,

  • that hookup and that you can do they, so they say like,

  • dad's cool.

  • Dad is the guy.

  • They think I'm pretty cool.

  • You cook for your kids.

  • Do you go all out ? Like it's Mac and cheese and-

  • Pasta. I do real plates,

  • real glasses,

  • forks.

  • There's no separation anymore. No plastic plates.

  • Little Vino, come on, loosen it up.

  • You won't get drunk. It just pairs well.

  • It opens their pallette man.

  • You want them to try new stuff?

  • Give them a little whiskey.

  • It's for their palette, it needs to be more distinguished.

  • I put rum on my daughters gums when she was teething,

  • when she was real young.

  • Yeah.

  • I'll never forget it. Like just holding her here,

  • dip it in and just be like rubbing it on her gums.

  • And she was just like, oh yeah, this is pretty tight.

  • I'm like, Oh nice.

  • And then like, she went to bed and like,

  • we had been having a problem,

  • getting her to go to bed and I just crushed it with this,

  • Captain Morgan is what I gave her.

  • And then I hear her crying like a half hour later.

  • And she had thrown up everywhere in the room.

  • Yikes.

  • [Jay] Lightweight dude.

  • Yikes, so this concludes our child services interview.

  • We'll be following up with some forms.

  • [Jay] W-what do you mean?

  • You're a great dad. We want you to write a book.

  • I love it.

  • But anything else that I skipped over?

  • Talk sports, anything you want to plug?

  • What you got coming up?

  • What's the, what's this podcast we wanna check this out,

  • cause you tell really great stories.

  • It sounds like a dig.

  • I don't know, I stopped podcasting during this as well,

  • But there's a bunch of episodes somewhere.

  • I had one called The Through Line, that's out there,

  • you can check out the commercial.

  • I just shot for Callaway with Kevin Nealon,

  • it's actually a short film.

  • It's like an eight minute short film,

  • which you can check out Callaway's posting,

  • if that's of interest to people,

  • if you're into branded content,

  • That's our whole audience,

  • and then Through Line is the, is the podcast,

  • which is, you tell great stories on that.

  • Yeah.

  • Very nice.

  • Just put some whiskey on your finger,

  • put it in your mouth, Listen to this podcast.

  • Jay, thank you so much for helping us out

  • and doing the show.

  • You got it, man.

  • Thanks for having me.

  • Yeah, this is fun.

  • All right, later Moses.

  • [Moses] Later!

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