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  • -Let's go back to earlier this year.

  • Do you remember that? The Grammy --

  • At the Grammy Awards,

  • you guys took home 11 Grammys between both of you

  • for "When We All Fall Asleep."

  • What do -- That's what I call it.

  • I abbreviate it now. -[ Laughs ] It's okay.

  • -I say "When We" now.

  • When you guys recorded "When We"...

  • -[ Laughs ] "When We."

  • -No, but what do you remember about that night?

  • -It was amazing.

  • It was, like, one of the best nights ever for me.

  • I -- Uh, yeah, it was pretty peak, I would say.

  • -[ Laughs ] -You know?

  • -Yeah. Yeah. I would say so.

  • -But it was also, like, not because we won.

  • It was just because... -We were there.

  • -...that we were there. Like, you know, just being there --

  • Just being nominated is so amazing and rare,

  • so, you know, that was -- that was --

  • We were already happy.

  • I remember when we got there that morning,

  • me and Finneas were like, "We're good.

  • We don't need to win. -Yeah. Exactly.

  • -We don't need -- Like, we're already here.

  • You know, we're not worried.

  • If we win or if we don't win,

  • it's just amazing that we get to be here."

  • And, crazily... -[ Laughs ]

  • -Yeah.

  • You wouldn't even guess it.

  • Crazily, you kept winning. Yeah.

  • -Yep.

  • -I loved -- They cut to you, Billie,

  • right before I think it was

  • Album of the Year, Record of the Year.

  • And they cut to you, and you were mouthing,

  • "Please don't be me."

  • -[ Laughs ]

  • -I was like, "That is so you." Like, "Please don't be me."

  • And I think I know why you were doing it.

  • 'Cause I -- Not like we're best friends or anything,

  • but I feel like, knowing you, you're going like, "I'm good.

  • I had a good night. I'm good. Let's end this now."

  • Is that what you were thinking, or what were you...?

  • -You know, I don't know what I --

  • I was very overwhelmed, but only in a way of...

  • it's so amazing, I can't believe it.

  • Not like, "I don't want..." You know what I mean?

  • -Yeah. No. Yeah. -It's like --

  • how can you feel like you deserve that kind of thing?

  • But I will say, though, that the next day,

  • we were over here, and Alicia Keys called me,

  • and she wanted to congratulate me.

  • And she basically said on the phone,

  • which is something that I, like, hold so dear to me, which is --

  • 'Cause, you know, she won a billion Grammys

  • when she was really young -- her first Grammys I think.

  • And she called me, and she was like,

  • "I just wanted to say don't be embarrassed for being dope."

  • -[ Laughs ]

  • That is so her, by the way.

  • -So good. -That is so her.

  • -It's true. Yeah. -Are you guys --

  • You were on tour or like three dates into it,

  • and then you had to cancel?

  • -Yep. -Yeah.

  • -Bummer? Or were you a little bit like,

  • "Oh, yeah, maybe I needed a little break"?

  • Or I don't know.

  • -Kind of both.

  • I was really looking forward to that tour for like months.

  • Um, but, you know... [Laughs] at the time,

  • we were like, "Well, we could use two weeks off."

  • -[ Laughs ] Yeah. Cut to six months off.

  • You're like, "Okay." -Yeah. Yeah.

  • So, yeah, it was great

  • for like the first couple weeks, first month,

  • and then it was like, "Okay.

  • You know. When can this be done?"

  • But we have made the best of it, I would say.

  • I think we've really done what we should've done in this time,

  • and we've made a lot of music,

  • and I don't think we would have made it otherwise

  • if we hadn't have gotten this time.

  • So as much as it's been terrible to have, you know,

  • this going on in the world, I think it has...

  • -We've been really lucky. -...birthed some things.

  • We have been really lucky with it, I think.

  • -And you're happy with the songs you wrote?

  • -Yeah, we're writing a lot.

  • -Yeah, I love them. -It's really fun.

-Let's go back to earlier this year.

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