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  • Yes, we'll be sporting a general election because we want to get Boris Johnson out by Christmas.

  • We've avoided a no deal Brexit that's been taken off the table because you have extended the deadline to 31st of January.

  • That means Boris Johnson, whose deep interest worthy can't therefore pushes out on a no deal Brexit during a general election campaign.

  • So Jeremy has made it clear John MacDonald's made it clear the team has decided it will be bucking a general election because we can't leave these Tories in power any longer.

  • And in so much damage across the country and Tim's austerity public services on, we've got a manifesto of hope will deliver a better society for everyone in our country.

  • So we're up for the fight on.

  • We believe we're gonna win it.

  • We believe we can make Boris Johnson shortest serving prime minister since a guy called by Count Godric.

  • He was prime minister for just 144 days in 18 27.

  • So we want to see Boris Johnson writing It's Christmas cards from a country retreat that's not cold checkers.

  • We're going to get him out and ask if there's any further caveats you have.

  • For example, the date or votes for 16 year olds will be pushing to get votes for 16 year olds.

  • Will be pushing to allow you nationals who can vote in other elections bail to vote in this general election.

  • But even if even if we don't get those things really want when it push comes to show we're going to support a general election because people in our country deserve better than Boris Johnson on the Tory's, they believe the born to rule they're gonna now found out that they're not beyond on the 12 the ninth wave of Boris Johnson puts forward.

  • We just want a general election.

  • Want to get them out before Christmas?

  • That's what we've decided we're gonna support today.

  • That's what will support.

  • Thank you, Thank you.

  • Fighting.

  • Talk there from the shadow.

  • Justice Secretary Richard Bergen, also looking at some tweets reacting to this momentum, saying Labour are officially backing an election, saying this is the opportunity off a lifetime.

  • But of course not all Labour MPs on Labour activists feel exactly that way.

  • Let's talk to our assistant political editor Norman Smith is in the central lobby in the houses off Parliament?

  • Yes, let's pick up on that.

  • First of all, Norman, how much reticence is there?

  • Do you think if you were to try to divvy this up, how much reticence is there within labour about an election versus support and that kind of fighting talk that we heard there?

  • I mean, the blunt truth is, it depends who you talk to.

  • If you talk to pro Corbyn M.

  • P's.

  • On the labour side, they take the view that as a campaigner, Mr Corbyn has the ability to turn around the polls.

  • So they are pretty gung ho about an election.

  • If you talk around, talk to Corbyn skeptics.

  • They are deeply wary about where this is leading on.

  • I think they will vote for this election with deep, deep misgivings, not just because they fear what might happen in an election, but because they take the view that the SNP and the Liberal Democrats are now the labour body have made a catastrophic mistake by going along with an election when, in their view, it would have been better.

  • Just a bide their time to keep dragging things out, and in the end, they believe they would have got to the holy grail of another referendum that now appears to be taken off the table unless you were to see a victory for Mr Corbyn or for Jo Swinson or a remain majority in the next Parliament.

  • So I think many, many labour folk will be approaching this election with a high degree of trepidation a little bit.

  • Those around Mr Corbyn take the view.

  • They have a manifesto which they think will reach out beyond, if you like the Brexit argument that it is, ah, set of policies which will appeal to a country frankly weary with austerity.

  • And if they can shift the election away from just being a Brexit election to being an election about austerity than they believe it's game on and they have a realistic chance.

  • The danger, of course, is as we've seen over the previous months, indeed, years Brexit has obliterated everything on it Strikes me is very, very difficult, with Brexit still unresolved to just take that out of the election.

  • Sort of headlights on DSO the hard part, it seems to me, for Labour's trying to get the focus onto their message on austerity on away from Brexit.

  • Yes, that's an interesting point you make Norman.

  • Is this going to be a referendum by proxy or something altogether broader?

  • Just talking about next, any referee, any amendments that might happen, for example, one to extend the franchise to younger voters?

  • How could that affect the pace of things?

  • Well, if there WAAS amendment passed to extend the franchise to 16 and 17 year olds, that would knock out the December election.

  • Why?

  • Because to put in place the necessary changes to ensure all 16 and 17 year olds could have a vote would probably take best part of a year.

  • So the view in government is that it is a wrecking amendment designed to kibosh a December election.

  • And interestingly, when we were just talking to Tom Break there, I got the clear impression from him that although I think it's late liberal Democrat policy, they won't be supporting it because they believe it would, in effect, make the idea of, ah, December election.

  • No, no.

  • So the Lib Dems don't support it.

  • I can't see it getting carried, to be honest.

  • So it seems to me the prospects off succeeding on that are pretty limited so it's going to come down to, I think, a straight forward choice Labour are clearly, I think, prepared to accept any date.

  • They're not particularly bothered whether it's December 9 10 11 12 would like it to be earlier.

  • But we heard from Richard Berg and they're saying, No, we'll take any date we can to get rid of Boris Johnson.

  • Let's be clear for Mr Johnson.

  • It's a huge gamble, too, because he's going into a winter election.

  • There will be questions about turnout in the dark and in the cold.

  • How will that play with older voters who predominantly, yes, did back Brexit?

  • How will it play with people who don't I always vote again.

  • People who did come out in the referendum to back Brexit.

  • So there are question marks about whether turnout disproportionately harm the pro Brexit vote.

  • There's also a question mark about whether voters will feel a bit cheesed off about having to go to the polls again.

  • Whether the likes of Brenda will be up in arms on, there's just the sheer electoral uncertainty off what will happen in Scotland.

  • The tourists seem poised there, possibly toe lose most of their seats what will happen in southern remain constituencies?

  • Will they hemorrhage to the Liberal Democrats and will they really be ableto pick up labour leave seats where labour MPs are sitting on humongous majorities?

  • So for Boris Johnson, it is a huge gamble, and above all he goes into the election having failed to deliver on a do or die.

  • So it is not a foregone conclusion.

  • Boris Johnson is on toe win this election.

  • The states are still enormously high for him.

  • Well, Norman, it's going to be a remarkable contest to watch unfold at Norman Smith.

  • There, in the lobby central lobby of the Houses of Parliament, thank you very much.

Yes, we'll be sporting a general election because we want to get Boris Johnson out by Christmas.

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