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  • - She's gonna reach a point

  • where no matter what you say,

  • her 16-year old eyes

  • have seen more than you'll ever know

  • and she's gonna tell you

  • she has the world figured out.

  • (organ music)

  • Hello, I'm Varno Harris.

  • I've been a father for approximately 30 years.

  • Five children.

  • It has ups, it has its downs.

  • I wouldn't trade it in for the world.

  • Ask A Black Dad was started

  • so that when you have a question

  • that no one particular voice dominates that main stream

  • or that conversation.

  • Access to different fathers

  • and the way that they believe

  • that their children should be brought up,

  • may be another tool that you can place in your toolbox,

  • that can help you along the way.

  • Today, I'll be taking questions from three young fathers,

  • and giving them some advice from an old father like myself.

  • And like they say in Fat Albert,

  • if you're not careful,

  • you might just learn something before this is all over with.

  • - Hey, what's up, my name is Kier.

  • I have been a father for 2 1/2 years now.

  • My daughter Emery will be three soon.

  • She's a superstar, she don't even know it man.

  • You know, after this conversation I really hope

  • to get an idea of how

  • a man who was once my age, and in my predicament

  • kind of navigated through that difficult situation,

  • and he came out in one piece

  • 'Cause I don't know how I'ma do that.

  • - I'm Ify, and I'm the father of Naomi, a 4-year old.

  • I have a dad, and he's side coaching me already,

  • but it's always good to, for me I believe,

  • to get some advice and information

  • from someone who really doesn't know you,

  • who doesn't have all this bias that's coming from you.

  • - All right, getting ready for this call with Mr. Harris.

  • I'm excited, man, 'cause I got so many questions.

  • I'm a father of 9-year old.

  • Y'all know Lin.

  • We did a couple videos together, but, amen,

  • she's about to be a preteen

  • so I know it's about to get real.

  • So I'm really looking forward to talking to him

  • seeing what insights he could give me.

  • (bright music)

  • - So, you have kids that are all different ages.

  • Infancy, toddler-hood, adolescence, teenage years,

  • adulthood, like, which stage was your favorite?

  • Like why did you love that stage?

  • - Adolescence.

  • I think that's the time that I love the most,

  • because now you're letting them go.

  • They're going to school now, they're just starting school

  • and they're just,

  • their water's starting to open up a little more,

  • and they're telling you their friends they're meeting,

  • and now they're, you know,

  • you gotta let them go sleep over somebody's house--

  • - No, you killin' me.

  • You say something that's good

  • and then you just let it get back down.

  • - That's the best part.

  • And I think that's my favorite part

  • is because now I'll be 55 in August

  • and when I dream now,

  • and my kids are in my dreams, they're that age.

  • They're 7, 8, 9, you know so--

  • - I've heard about that before.

  • If they're frozen in their time in your dream.

  • - Yeah, they are.

  • They're actually there.

  • That state is what they're in

  • and I think that's because that's the state

  • that I really thought was the most amazing.

  • - So what you're basically saying

  • is my best days are yet to come.

  • - [Andrew] Me and my daughter's mom,

  • we're not together at the moment.

  • So I'm thinking about like,

  • I'm getting older now,

  • starting that kind of traditional family

  • where my new person will be in the house,

  • and I'll have five kids running around

  • or something like that.

  • With you having a household full of kids,

  • 'cause, it's what, seven of y'all total?

  • Y'all could do like a pickup basketball game,

  • like y'all got subs and everything, so--

  • - That's a relief guys.

  • (laughter)

  • - So just, how did you kind of handle a household full?

  • - My oldest son, is from my first marriage.

  • When I was in the Marine Corps.

  • Then I got married again,

  • and when me and my wife started having my other,

  • my first daughter, the first thing we did was

  • when my son came into the house,

  • sometimes some people in your family, you know,

  • cousins and all that. "Oh that's your step--"

  • I said no he's not a step brother, he's your brother.

  • Don't put nothing between you and your brother.

  • And from there about how do we keep

  • the household together without losing your head, your mind?

  • Everybody has responsibilities,

  • everybody has a chore, and everybody has to see love.

  • They have to see discipline,

  • they have to see that they are expected to read books,

  • but they expect to see you read a book.

  • And give yourself some time.

  • Every now and then, have grandma watch 'em.

  • (laughter)

  • Have auntie watch 'em,

  • but make sure grandma's a good grandma

  • and auntie's a good auntie.

  • You know what I'm saying?

  • Don't let no, don't send your children,

  • don't send your gems to houses that are gonna ruin 'em.

  • - So I was wondering,

  • what was a moment in your daughters youth

  • that you wish you cherished more?

  • Something that you think that, you know,

  • you're like watch out for that 'cause this is gonna be,

  • you know, that moment.

  • (laughs)

  • - For my oldest daughter I would say,

  • when we first put her in T-Ball.

  • And I was one of the coaches, and I watched her.

  • She was 4 or 5 something like that.

  • And these herd of kids were sitting in the ground,

  • picking daisies and throwing dirt on each other's hair.

  • And I'm like, "No, no you gotta stay here you gotta--"

  • And if you just let,

  • what we did was, and I didn't know it till later on,

  • what we did as parents was we got in the middle

  • of just kids being kids.

  • There were at a place where they were there to play

  • and they were playing how kids play.

  • But we were gonna tell 'em,

  • "No, you're gonna play this way,

  • "this is how you're gonna play."

  • If I would have just relaxed,

  • and not been so, you know,

  • every time she got back on the dirt

  • I'd pick her back up and you know,

  • and I shouldn't have did that.

  • You know so if I could go back over things

  • I would cherish more while I had a chance to.

  • - The whole dating thing, like, I'm crazy.

  • I'm crazy, at least I think I'm crazy.

  • Because in my head I'm like,

  • "No, nobody is good enough for my daughter,

  • "nobody's gonna date my kid,

  • "y'all are just gonna be in this house forever

  • "one big happy family."

  • Right?

  • I know that's not realistic but let me cook.

  • In terms of dating, how do you set

  • realistic expectations, for yourself.

  • - She's gonna grow into a beautiful young woman,

  • and on her way getting there,

  • she's gonna be a beautiful girl.

  • And guys are gonna be attracted to her.

  • What me and my wife did was we made a plan.

  • Okay, what do we think is the appropriate age

  • for her to interact as far as you know,

  • talking to boys, you know, when that level comes.

  • When our daughters were old enough

  • and mature enough, we had conversations with 'em.

  • We didn't just allow the school to have

  • the birds and the bees conversation with 'em.

  • And we didn't wait for somebody in the street

  • or their friends to tell 'em

  • the birds and the bees conversation.

  • You wait for little Paul to tell 'em the birds and the bees,

  • you don't know exactly what he's telling them,

  • and why he's telling them exactly.

  • You know what I'm saying.

  • And then, the way she watches you interact with mom.

  • - Yeah!

  • - That's gonna be key.

  • She's gonna see how a man's supposed to act.

  • A child should see mom and dad disagree.

  • A child needs to see an argument

  • just like they need to see love,

  • they need to know how to argue.

  • Because if they don't know how to argue,

  • when I say argue, that means constructively disagree.

  • And be able to disagree and go to the fact of,

  • "Okay let's go to bed, we ain't getting over this one.

  • "But we going to bed and we still together."

  • If she can't see that, or he can't see that

  • what happens is, somebody's going to show 'em how to argue.

  • They'll go, "Oh this is how it's supposed to be.

  • "I saw it on TV somebody said that this is how,"

  • especially blacks, "this is how we supposed to do this."

  • That's not how it happens,

  • so they need to see us be loving they need to see us,

  • you know the whole thing.

  • - I'm seeing a lot of constant just

  • attack, attack, attack,

  • especially on like the black man.

  • So a little bit about me I'm originally from New Jersey,

  • so I'm kind of moving to LA, chasing the dream,

  • I'm raising a daughter,

  • and then it's like I also have to lead my house

  • and deal with just America on their (beep) again

  • for lack of a better term.

  • And it's kind of frustrating sometimes

  • when I see that I have to fight

  • all these individual battles,

  • so a lot of times it gets overwhelming.

  • So when I think of, you know, five kids

  • and coming home, I'm like, I would love that,

  • if I lived in a sitcom, but with the America that I know,

  • I don't even know if I want that.

  • You know what I mean?

  • And I kinda start getting into my head about it.

  • - Remember this,

  • you're not gonna change the fact you're black.

  • We're trying to change the fact of how America sees us,

  • but you're not gonna change the fact your black.

  • You're not gonna change the fact you have black kids,

  • and we are unapologetic that they're gonna be beautiful

  • and they're gonna be rock stars.

  • They're gonna show up and they're gonna show out,

  • because we gonna put the work in.

  • But we also have to remember

  • that we have to give 'em hope, because right now a child

  • is watching what's happening on TV.

  • See my children are a little older,

  • but still I have to give 'em hope.

  • I have to tell them I remember what I started from.

  • I remember the incidents that happened to me.

  • And I remembered to not take all that with me.

  • The scars, my ancestor carried the scars for me

  • just told me, "remember that I took the scar for you."

  • 'Cause the minute we let somebody defeat us,

  • it's over, this is just the way it's gonna always be.

  • Then we lost.

  • - [Kier] You said you grew up with your dad right?

  • - My dad was in the household,

  • he wasn't married to my mom but he was in the house.

  • - Right and I'm, like I always try to separate it like,

  • when you got your father in the house and he's active,

  • father in the house but he's not active at all.

  • Which I recently learned,

  • is almost as bad if not worse in some cases

  • as not having a father at all.

  • And then you have not having a dad at all.

  • So you got these men that come from these

  • three different family structures.

  • Like for the guys who either had a kinda not there dad,

  • or no dad at all.

  • What advice would you give them,

  • just to keep their head on straight?

  • You know what I'm saying?

  • Trying to persevere through learning how to be a dad,

  • learning how to be a man, learning how to be a partner,

  • like what advice would you give them?

  • Like a quick endurance.

  • - Quick endurance here you go.

  • Number one, don't lie to yourself, and be truthful.

  • - Man.

  • - That means that if you had a dad in the house,

  • and you gotta know the difference.

  • I had a dad, you know,

  • okay what was dad in the house doing?

  • What did he do?

  • Like, I was diagnosed with Child of Adult Alcoholic.

  • There was trauma in the house.

  • You understand?

  • But to get past that you have

  • to admit there was trauma in the house.

  • You have to admit that that changed some

  • of the way you think, you thought.

  • So before you can even do that,

  • you gotta understand that maybe there's a sickness.

  • You don't have a father in the house.

  • Your father not being there caused you

  • to have some kind of sickness.

  • You know what I'm saying?

  • So now you got a kid.

  • If you look around and you got a kid,

  • and you on YouTube, you on Xbox,

  • you on the PlayStation, and your kid is miles away

  • and you ain't seen that kid in six months,

  • you got a problem.

  • But if you don't admit you got a problem you can't fix it.

  • Number two, you have to find some way to love yourself.

  • Because I don't care who you are,

  • if you don't love you,

  • you're not gonna love that child

  • the way that child needs to be loved.

  • And you definitely ain't gonna love no woman

  • or no man the way they wanna be loved.

  • - Yeah.

  • - You can't if you don't love yourself.

  • Then number three, you have to break that cycle.

  • If you find yourself in a cycle

  • where you're doing the same things that grandad did,

  • the same things that daddy did.

  • You're sitting there and you're doing it

  • and you know it's wrong.

  • - Yeah

  • - You have to stop.

  • So that's why I'm saying you have to learn to fix yourself

  • and sometimes fixing yourself means don't be looking

  • for somebody to love, because you gotta fix this.

  • It's broke and it's hurt.

  • You have to find a way.

  • If it means opening a Bible, or Quran, a Torah,

  • maybe just looking up at the stars,

  • doing something, you have to fix that inside yourself.

  • You got to.

  • You got to know the difference and you have to be honest.

  • You know what I'm saying, be truthful.

  • Sometimes the truth hurts, the truth is ugly.

  • - Man the truth always hurts.

  • The truth, you know what hurts?

  • The truth and growth.

  • - What's something that you think that I should know,

  • as a father?

  • - That's a good question.

  • What you should know, you'll be fathering

  • your child, your daughter, for the rest of your life.

  • That means that when she gets 50, you're gonna be daddy.

  • But you also have to understand that,

  • as she's young now,

  • she's gonna grow into who she's gonna be.

  • Enjoy a moment.

  • Every moment that you have with a child, enjoy.

  • You know what I'm saying?

  • Because, I promise you one day you're gonna sit back

  • and say, "I remember when"

  • and it's gonna be those moments that you cherish.

  • Another thing you have to do,

  • is you have to remember that you are raising,

  • no matter what, black children.

  • And being a black male, you have to understand that

  • there's strikes already gonna be thrown at her.

  • And she has to know that,

  • and you have to be there to protect her.

  • Protecting her is meaning make sure she has this,

  • make sure she has this.

  • You know, because anybody can run around and throw hands.

  • But who has this to think and this.

  • You're doing good young man don't worry about it.

  • - All right.

  • - Give your daughter a hug and a kiss for me.

  • - All right will do, thank you so much sir.

  • - No, thank you for asking.

  • - I'm gonna be real Mr. Harris,

  • man you gave me some gems today man

  • I'm taking notes over here like I feel a lot better.

  • - Man I wanna know, you got all of this wisdom

  • and you got this real calm aura about you.

  • Like the young folk, we used to say unbothered.

  • You look like you don't trip off too much.

  • I'm just trying to get the way you act,

  • that place you at, enjoy that,

  • us young dudes are working to be right there.

  • - You're gonna get there, you're gonna get there.

  • Trust me.

  • This has been a very heartwarming

  • and joyful experience to see the future.

  • I think it's beautiful, I think this is the start

  • of tearing down some of the stereotypes.

  • And I hope nothing but the best for all of them.

  • If you enjoyed watching the conversations

  • I had with these young fathers,

  • and you wanna learn a little bit more about me,

  • please visit my channel Ask A Black Dad.

  • Everybody's welcome.

  • You know and don't let the work black scare you,

  • because ask a father and ask a dad was taken.

  • And to all you fathers out there,

  • and all you expecting fathers,

  • from Ask A Black Dad, Happy Father's Day.

  • (peppy music)

- She's gonna reach a point

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