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  • - Hey everyone, this is Jeremy Schieffelin

  • with Khan Academy.

  • Thanks so much for joining us this afternoon.

  • You're in for a very special treat today

  • because we have kind of Academy ambassador

  • and all star male teacher, Shalom with us today

  • who has been using Khan Academy for almost a decade.

  • Basically since Sal Khan himself started making the videos,

  • Shalom has been with us using it in his classroom.

  • So if you're ever curious about how do you get started

  • with Khan Academy for remote learning,

  • how do you specialize and target your content

  • for your middle school students?

  • Shalom is the person to speak to

  • and he's happy to share his expertise today.

  • So that being said,

  • before we get you Shalom's background here,

  • I wanna remind you the first part of the session

  • we focused on the most common questions we received

  • and Shalom will talk through how to get started

  • and how to focus your energies with Khan Academy.

  • And then we'll open it up for the final half

  • for questions from the audience.

  • So if you ever wanna ask a question,

  • just go to the question section

  • of the go to webinar control panel

  • and we'll take those in the order they're received.

  • So Shalom, welcome and thank you so much

  • for joining us today.

  • - It's very nice to be here with everybody.

  • - And just to sort of give folks a sense of

  • where you're coming from, tell us a little bit about

  • where you teach, who you teach and what your experience

  • with Khan has been.

  • - Okay, I'm a seventh grade math teacher

  • in Ocean Township, New Jersey.

  • Teaching is a second career for me,

  • I actually worked on Wall Street for six years,

  • and decided to make the switch

  • and I've been teaching middle school ever since.

  • So here I am in Monmouth County, New Jersey. (laughs)

  • - Very cool.

  • And so tell us, like, even before this crisis started,

  • why have you been a Khan user in your classroom?

  • - At about the 2010/2011 school year,

  • a friend of mine had told me about it.

  • And I had heard about this Khan Academy videos thing,

  • but she told me, "Oh, no, no, it has exercises."

  • So I was really drawn to the exercises.

  • Back then they had to get either seven in a row

  • or 10 in a row right to level up.

  • And I was like, this is how we learn everything.

  • So primarily I didn't have computers back then.

  • I used it initially for extra credit.

  • But I continue to use it to this day.

  • It's my primary source of practice problems for students.

  • I use others, but it's my primary source.

  • And I love the fact that students can go at their own pace.

  • They're not, it really allows them to learn

  • what they want at their level.

  • And it provides such good data for me as a teacher

  • to decide when to intervene, what to intervene,

  • what trends there are, things like that.

  • - Very cool.

  • And so obviously you could probably give

  • an entire three hour lecture on how to set up Khan Academy

  • during normal times.

  • - I really could. (laughs)

  • - (laughs) The times we live in are very abnormal

  • all of a sudden.

  • If you are an educator out there, a middle school teacher

  • who is struggling to get with remote learning

  • basically yesterday and the district is saying, "Hey, you've

  • "got to roll something out for your students."

  • Obviously number one, our hearts go out to you.

  • But number two, what kind of like really concrete tips

  • would you give to that educator

  • who wants to get started immediately?

  • - Okay, first of all, I'm very fortunate,

  • my students are conditioned on how to use Khan Academy.

  • And I know it's scary to, "Oh my God,

  • "how am I gonna start with something new?"

  • So my recommendation is to go through some exercises

  • as a student (mumbles)

  • answer them yourself,

  • but make sure they are review exercises.

  • Start with something that the kids would know.

  • Start small, assign a few skills for them

  • and then just at that point, dive in,

  • meaning you assign it to them.

  • You tell them, "Here, go do this by Friday,"

  • and let them work and then take a look at the data

  • that comes in, take a look at what students

  • are working on.

  • Are they getting them correct or are they not?

  • So you wanna start small

  • because you don't wanna overwhelm the kids

  • with a bunch of stuff, which is why I think

  • for right now it would be good to start with review.

  • But then once you get started,

  • make sure to look at all the reports,

  • try to understand it's, I know it's so hard

  • to see the forest through the trees.

  • But that would be my big piece of advice.

  • And here's where I'm gonna give you a shout out, Jeremy.

  • A few weeks ago you did a workshop

  • and you talked about adding.

  • It was, once you add yourself as a coach

  • to your own account.

  • And I think that was actually something

  • I had never thought to do

  • considering the amount of time I've spent using Khan.

  • And by doing that I started seeing the same notifications

  • that the students would see.

  • You know, here's something your teacher assigned you.

  • I started getting email notifications.

  • So you kind of by adding yourself as a coach

  • to your own learner side of the account,

  • 'cause every account can be a learner and a coach account,

  • it really kind of helped me understand,

  • I already kind of knew what they saw

  • but it really let me, it kind of put it in my face

  • to see what the students are seeing

  • when I assign them things.

  • - Very cool.

  • So just to recap those three main steps,

  • it sounds like number one,

  • just start searching around Khan Academy,

  • playing the role of a student.

  • What does it feel like to look at a video?

  • What does it feel like to do an exercise?

  • Get some hints.

  • Once you see one that you're really excited about,

  • maybe just start by assigning a single assignment at a time

  • just to sort of dip your toes in the water

  • and get your students feeling comfortable

  • and then to really understand what it looks like

  • from the student lens, come down to your student section,

  • get your class code, and then under your learner home,

  • you can find the section called teachers at the very bottom

  • and add yourself to your own classroom.

  • You'll now see those notifications that Shalom talked about.

  • So you understand exactly what it feels like

  • to be in your students' shoes.

  • - Yeah, and the other thing too is in this time

  • that we're in the videos tend to take a little longer.

  • I would just start at first with the exercises.

  • Yeah, this is just practical advice

  • so that you can quickly see, "Oh, is this something

  • "I'd want my students doing?"

  • And if it is right at the top of the screen,

  • if you pick an exercise right now,

  • can you just pick one and show everybody

  • how they can assign it to their students

  • right from the top of the screen?

  • - Yeah, tell me like a common skill you might be teaching

  • in your classroom right now, Shalom

  • if we were back in school.

  • - Well this time of year, I'm doing some geometry

  • with my advanced class.

  • So if you go to seventh grade geometry.

  • So let's just go to Area of a Circle, second one there.

  • - So click the practice button.

  • - So you're in the student view.

  • The student have to answer seven questions

  • and you say, "Wait a minute,

  • "I really like this question up here."

  • So at the top there's assigned to, all right,

  • you can assign it to multiple classes,

  • you can assign it to individual students

  • as long as it's for one class only.

  • If you have multiple classes, you're just gonna assign it

  • to every student in the class.

  • I prefer to do different questions

  • or you can also assign the same questions to everybody

  • different questions the way I go.

  • And then you can set a due date.

  • Now this will come up on their learner dashboard.

  • But this right here will not come up on Google classroom.

  • That's something teachers, I know you can link your class

  • to Google classrooms to get your roster into Khan Academy,

  • but assignments don't automatically go out

  • to Google classroom.

  • And I'm hoping that they are working on changing that

  • in the future.

  • - Yeah, I'll just mention on that point,

  • if you ever have feedback for us about something

  • you'd love to see in the product,

  • just go right up to your name

  • in the upper right hand corner,

  • click the help button and then come to the section called

  • report a problem and say, "Hey, I've got

  • "a really great feature idea

  • "that would make things much, much better."

  • I'll actually paste this in to the chat section

  • so you can let us know if you have problems

  • or ideas you want us to consider.

  • Okay, so that is sort of getting started

  • with checking it out.

  • What are some of the challenges that you anticipate

  • the teachers will face in the next few weeks, Shalom?

  • I know we have a lot of things on our shoulders right now,

  • but if you think about Khan Academy in particular,

  • where do you see new teachers you run into issues

  • and how can they sort of preempt those best they can?

  • - Okay.

  • My biggest challenge with Khan Academy

  • has always been getting students

  • to buy into the growth mindset aspect of it.

  • You know, it's not just, "Here's five problems,

  • "do them, great, you got four wrong,

  • "let's move on to the next topic."

  • It's really designed to have the kids work

  • until they show levels of proficiency.

  • So two things that I make all my students and parents do

  • at the beginning of the year

  • is I make them watch the, "You Can Learn Anything Video".

  • And also there's about a five, six minute or so Ted talk

  • by Angela Lee Duckworth on grit.

  • So it's kind of to get them set.

  • And by the way, she talks about how

  • she was a seventh grade teacher and how perseverance

  • and all these things to get students in the mindset

  • of you're not gonna get everything right.

  • You're gonna make mistakes along the way

  • and that it's okay as long as you keep going.

  • Those are the two things I think that

  • are the biggest challenges that I've had.

  • And I've had some tough times,

  • especially in my earlier years

  • with parents complaining about

  • how frustrated their child is.

  • But since I've started doing that,

  • I've gotten much better appreciation from the parents

  • and from the students that struggling is okay.

  • I always say, "Why is it okay to be terrible

  • "when you first play an instrument?"

  • I mean, you don't see somebody pick up the flute

  • and they're playing it and they sound great.

  • They sound awful, right?

  • And why is it not acceptable in math to be bad

  • at something at first?

  • So that's my first thing.

  • Also another challenge is the amount of content

  • can be overwhelming.

  • It really, really can.

  • But thankfully if you click on courses there for me, Jeremy?

  • Right.

  • - You got it.

  • - You will see the courses are aligned

  • with the common core standards, which by grade.

  • So if you go down, I'm looking at your screen right now,

  • first grade, second grade, third grade, fourth grade.

  • So you can go in there and find the exercises by standard.

  • There's also a Common Core math which I think is okay.

  • It's great for high school teachers, but K to eight,

  • the standards are really well aligned by grade.

  • So you can, or you can, there's the Common Core math.

  • It's those grade one, there's 28 unique skills

  • and 605 questions and so on and so forth.

  • This is a different view, but I prefer the other view

  • where you go into the grade itself.

  • But I know it's overwhelming to see all that information,

  • but if you narrow it down, find exercises you like,

  • try them out and assign them to your students

  • and then just see where it goes from there.

  • - Great, great advice.

  • So really sort of start with a little bit of inspiration,

  • setting the bar high, letting your students know

  • that you believe in them even when the challenge

  • is so strong right now.

  • And then number two, finding the stuff

  • that really brings them back to that sense of normalcy

  • of like, "Hey, we would have been covering this right now

  • "and so we're gotta keep going ahead and not give up."

  • - Yes.

  • - Last question before we opened up for more questions

  • from the audience is if you think a couple of weeks ahead,

  • the teachers have taken your advice for getting started,

  • they've made a couple of assignments

  • and now maybe the pressure is really on

  • to deliver kind of classroom instruction on a regular basis

  • and really take the most of tools of Khan Academy.

  • Are there any more advanced tips or techniques

  • from your middle school experience that you would recommend

  • for a middle school educator out there?

  • - I'm sorry, I was coughing there.

  • I think that, can you repeat the end of that question

  • 'cause I coughed at the end?

  • - Oh no, no.

  • My apologies.

  • Yeah, just thinking ahead, like I know personally

  • in my kids' own district here,

  • there's a lot of discussion right now about going

  • from peer sort of like keep the lights on day in and day out

  • to how do we actually have clear plans,

  • clear structures in place to mimic

  • as much classroom instruction as possible.

  • If a teacher is facing that kind of challenge

  • over the next few weeks or months,

  • what can they do on Khan Academy to go above and beyond

  • just one assignment?

  • What turns it into a system, into a process?

  • - Okay.

  • First of all, if this is tough for people

  • to wrap their heads around, but if you are okay,

  • if you can get yourself okay with students working

  • at their own pace, right?

  • If you have them start to work through a unit,

  • can you pull up, before the session started,

  • we talked about the mastery point system.

  • Okay, so that's kind of small on my screen.

  • I don't know how it would look on other people's screens,

  • but-- - There you go.

  • - Okay, perfect.

  • Zero points means a student.

  • So this all has to do with exercise set.

  • So zero points means either a student has,

  • I'm trying to point my mouse,

  • but I'm guessing that either have never started it, no level

  • or they've attempted it.

  • If you see the little diamond in the bottom right corner,

  • that means they've gotten less than 70% on that problem set.

  • Then if the student gets at least 70%,

  • they get to 50 points, which is familiar.

  • And then if they get 100% in that problem set,

  • they get 80 points and they're proficient, right?

  • And the last 20 points they can get mastered,

  • they have to do one of two ways,

  • either by taking a unit test on Khan Academy

  • or by answering them correctly

  • on what's called the mastery challenge.

  • All right, if you say to the students,

  • let's go to seventh grade geometry

  • or seventh grade anything.

  • - Sure.

  • - And you asked the students, okay, you know what,

  • start at the beginning.

  • By the way, I wouldn't necessarily start with geometry.

  • It's not the,

  • let's do negative numbers addition, subtraction here.

  • Let's use that, and say to the students,

  • "All right, get started."

  • All right, if you go down, you're gonna have to scroll

  • to the, there's the first skill signs of sums.

  • They're not actually, they're gonna see instead of mastered,

  • they're gonna see a little blue button there

  • that says start.

  • And that's how they can get to the exercise

  • and then say, okay, go from there to the next one,

  • adding negative numbers, right?

  • And the point system that I just discussed

  • is on the right side there.

  • Now your account or whoever's account this is,

  • has already mastered all those.

  • So it's kind of not the best example

  • because this person already mastered all these.

  • But if you have the students start at the first skill

  • in negative numbers and work their way through

  • and say, "Listen, I just want you to work 30 minutes a day

  • "and try to watch videos, do exercises, see how you do."

  • And you use that point system in the reporting

  • that you get as well.

  • And that point system helps you determine

  • what it is that students need more help with.

  • - And do you wanna talk very briefly

  • about these progress reports?

  • Just because I think that'll help folks really

  • draw the connection between what the students are seeing

  • and doing and what the teacher is responding with.

  • - Okay, so let's go to solving equations and inequalities.

  • So if you click on that, right?

  • And you scroll down a little bit.

  • All right, not started right now, there are eight students

  • that are not started and that's their names right there.

  • That's the zero points.

  • Attempted, there's one student.

  • Attempted means they got less than 70%.

  • Familiar, we have no students in that category.

  • So those are students that have 70%, but less than 100%.

  • Proficient is a student that did the exercise

  • and they got all the questions right.

  • So they got 100%, they moved to proficient

  • and it looks like Meaghan,

  • she eventually answered the question correct on a unit test

  • or did a mastery challenge and she got those last 20 points

  • and that's where she gets the mastered.

  • So the point system that I talked about before is related

  • that's on the student side, what they can see.

  • This is on the teacher side, what you can see.

  • So if you ask your students to start on a unit

  • and just say, "Just go with it, here."

  • Take whatever minutes a day and go with it.

  • You'll start getting this report to populate

  • and you'll see who's getting it and who's not.

  • And this is what I do in my class during the regular year.

  • I know it's kind of tough to do that

  • or to even think about doing that in this time,

  • but this is actually the most meaningful part

  • of the website for me

  • is that students are working at their own pace.

  • And I tell the kids just 'cause

  • you're struggling with something

  • or your friend is struggling with something, but you're not,

  • why should I give you homework on the same topic every day?

  • So this might be the perfect test case

  • for doing something like that.

  • - Yeah, I mean, it's hard to find silver linings right now,

  • but if ever there was a moment in American education

  • when we could actually try to serve each student

  • where they are, this might be that one with tools like this.

  • - Listen, ideally I'd be working below grade level

  • and having my kids work their way up.

  • But I'm still responsible for grade level assessments

  • and grades and things like that.

  • So this is a time where a lot of people

  • can kind of experiment with, "Hey, you know what?

  • "I think this is the best way my students can learn

  • "and let me just try it."

  • So, yeah.

  • - Cool.

  • Well, amazing advice Shalom.

  • I think you've given folks a lot

  • to get started with already.

  • Let's dive into the more specific questions

  • coming from the audience,

  • starting with a gray one from Janice.

  • So Janice is talking a little bit about the experience

  • that students have of doing these exercises

  • and she says, "What strategies Shalom,

  • "have you found effective in getting kids to self-help

  • "by using those hint resources and going back to rework

  • "and redo their exercises to improve their understanding?"

  • One thing I've seen a lot observing middle school students

  • is kids don't wanna use hint

  • because it seems like a sign of weakness.

  • They don't wanna do it again

  • 'cause it seems like, oh maybe they didn't do so well

  • the first time.

  • How do you overcome that and get them to help themselves?

  • - Well, I'll answer it in two ways.

  • Number one in class I have a rule.

  • I won't answer your question

  • unless you've attempted the problem.

  • And I tell the kids, even if you guessed,

  • even if it's a multiple choice question

  • and you guess correctly, then raise your hand.

  • Say, "Mr lab, I guess this right,

  • "but can you explain it to me?"

  • So we are almost kind of forcing that hint now

  • because we're not right there to help them.

  • So my whole thing is encourage

  • and this is where the growth mindset comes in.

  • This is where it's okay.

  • Like I always use this example with my students.

  • My son was eight years old,

  • taught himself to solve a Rubik's cube and made fun of me

  • because I couldn't do it.

  • And then I had to learn how to do it.

  • I mean, I couldn't let him beat me.

  • And when I did, it took me a lot longer to learn it

  • than it took him.

  • So I used that as a growth mindset lesson.

  • I didn't give up.

  • Am I stupid because it took me longer than him?

  • Maybe.

  • But I think most people would say, "Wow, you're a person

  • "who can solve a Rubik's cube now."

  • And it doesn't matter if it takes you longer

  • and that's the kind of thing that I think

  • if you can get your students to understand,

  • that's why I like those two videos

  • that you can learn anything and the grit videos

  • 'cause it kind of gets kids in that mindset.

  • So, great question.

  • Harder to do than just saying go ahead and do this.

  • But good luck Janice, right?

  • - Yeah, all right, great question Janice.

  • Great response Shalom.

  • Courtney I think is gonna push us to go back a little bit.

  • This is important for those

  • who are just really getting started today.

  • "What's even required for a middle school students

  • "to get started with a Khan Academy?

  • "Is all they need an email?

  • "How do they even get sort of integrated into the system

  • "in the first place?"

  • - Okay, first of all,

  • if your district has a G-suite or Gmail email handle,

  • that makes it easy right there because all you need to do

  • is when you go to, excuse me, when you go to Settings.

  • Are we in teacher tools?

  • I'm sorry.

  • - Yeah, yeah.

  • - Okay.

  • - Maybe Sync with Google Classroom?

  • - Yeah, right there, Sync with Google Classroom.

  • I didn't know if it was in the teacher setting or the,

  • and you just,

  • this account's already synced with her Google class.

  • This is Meaghan's account, right?

  • - That's right.

  • - So hit Sync and now that roster will be in there.

  • Now if you don't have a Google suite email address

  • in your district, there's the class code.

  • Now the students, I always prefer they do things

  • with their district email address.

  • But you can send them this class code

  • and they add themselves to your class.

  • The one thing I always stress is when students log in,

  • if it is a Google account,

  • make sure to log in through Google.

  • A lot of times people see the login screen

  • and they see an actual like place to enter a username

  • and password.

  • You don't need it if it's a Google account,

  • you just link it to your Google account.

  • - And let me actually show what that looks like

  • from the new user standpoint.

  • So, you were coming to Khan Academy as a student

  • and you said start here, said, "Hey, I'm a learner."

  • Just to be clear, your recommendation is

  • better to put in a class code than anything else?

  • Shalom, is that right?

  • - Well no.

  • If you're Google I would start right there.

  • Continue with Google.

  • - Okay, Continue with Google, cool.

  • - Do me a favor, click Sarah.

  • Is it gonna ask for the date of birth anymore?

  • Is that gonna just?

  • - Yeah, so I believe it offers that based on the fact

  • that this person is over 13.

  • But yeah, you can also do a Google or you can do class code,

  • which again is pulled straight from your classroom settings.

  • Okay, great feedback.

  • - And the age, correct me if I'm wrong,

  • but the age shouldn't be an issue

  • if you're using it with a school account.

  • That's one of the reasons I also recommend

  • using a school account.

  • Because I think-- - That's exactly right.

  • - Okay.

  • - Okay, great question Courtney.

  • Thanks for the response from Shalom.

  • - I hope I answered it.

  • - (laughs) Gerard from Ocean Township says

  • "Shalom, where did you get that awesome headset?"

  • - Oh, (laughs) Gerard is messing with me.

  • Gerard is my supervisor.

  • So, (laughs)

  • - You better be on your best behavior.

  • - This is my session of pilot headset.

  • That's pretty funny, Gerard.

  • I give you prompts for asking that question. (laughs)

  • - Cool.

  • I think we're all in the market for headsets,

  • all of us that in.

  • So definitely if you have a recommendation Shalom,

  • let us know.

  • So Belinda has a really good question, which is,

  • "Okay, we've talked a lot about the technology,

  • "but what about the teacher-student interaction piece?

  • "How would you recommend giving feedback to students

  • "once you start getting these progress reports?"

  • - Okay, first of all, in terms of feedback,

  • the students are getting immediate feedback

  • if they answer a question right or wrong.

  • Yes, the hints are not the most exciting for them

  • to look at.

  • But it is instant feedback

  • and I've been doing it for years

  • and I try to get my students, "Read the hints, please

  • "and then ask me the question."

  • And sometimes they wear you down.

  • Sometimes they ask me a question,

  • and I don't even ask them, "Did you look at the hints yet?"

  • Some exercises, I don't necessarily love the hints.

  • I think that not that they're wrong.

  • I just don't think that they're the most simplified way

  • of showing things.

  • So it's the feedback in the classroom

  • is I can use that data to kind of pick a group of students,

  • "Wow, these seven kids are struggling with this skill.

  • "Let me work with them."

  • Use that to maybe do a Zoom conference

  • with a small group of kids.

  • I bought myself this right here.

  • It's a little tablet that I can use to write

  • and I make Sal Khan style videos myself

  • as kids ask me questions.

  • You can make those if you look at,

  • there's a certain report you can look at

  • and see how many students in the class

  • answered it correctly or incorrectly.

  • And Khan actually puts it in order from the most difficult

  • to the, I'm sorry, the one that's most frequently wrong

  • to the ones that have been easiest.

  • So if you, let's pull that up real quick.

  • So if you see a problem, you're like,

  • "Wow, a lot of kids are getting this wrong,"

  • and you wanna do a quick video for it in this,

  • in class you would obviously do it.

  • Here's a question only three students

  • were presented with a question seven.

  • Two of the students got it wrong,

  • one student got it right.

  • My favorite part is to the right.

  • It shows you what answers were chosen.

  • And by the way, this is a multiple choice question.

  • If you can find one that is not multiple choice,

  • I think everything in this set is multiple choice.

  • But you can, even if the question is not multiple choice,

  • it will tell you what students typed in as their answer.

  • So this kind of information is fantastic and you can use it,

  • as you please.

  • Now in the setting that we're in, remote learning,

  • it's not gonna be easy and you have to find your way

  • of conveying that to your students,

  • whether it be videos or webinar, chat style things,

  • video chats I should say.

  • But the information is there

  • to help you make those decisions.

  • And that's the beauty.

  • That's what I love about Khan Academy the most.

  • It really helps me.

  • By the way, I have to give a shout out

  • to my co-teacher, Suzy

  • 'cause Gerard got mentioned, so.

  • (Jeremy laughs) (Shalom laughs)

  • - (mumbles) far and wide.

  • (Shalom laughs)

  • Yeah, no, I think you just nailed it though.

  • I want to echo that last sentiment

  • which is I think a lot of teachers will look at Khan Academy

  • and say "Ah, this is just trying to replace the teacher

  • "somehow just like my classroom on autopilot."

  • You couldn't be farther from the truth

  • because really isn't the tool

  • and the teachers who are using it the best

  • are the ones who are using it to drive their own teaching,

  • to get more information to serve their students better?

  • - And if there's something I want everybody to know is,

  • and I've given presentations about Khan Academy

  • and how to use it.

  • And one of the things I always say to people when I present

  • is don't necessarily use it the way I do, okay?

  • Take what I do and make it your own.

  • Here's how I do it.

  • I'm not saying it's right.

  • By the way I'm not saying I've got it figured out

  • 'cause there's changes I make with Suzy by the way.

  • Suzy and I are big Khan Academy users.

  • We get together and talk all the time.

  • "I liked how we did this, maybe we should do that instead."

  • So make it your own, make it something that you can use

  • the information on there to help you be a better teacher.

  • It is not there to teach your students for you.

  • Now the videos in a time like this,

  • yeah, they might be there to teach your students

  • because you can't be there 24/7.

  • And it's great to be able to rewind and pause.

  • And Sal Khan in one of his Ted talks talks about

  • how his cousin said they like him better in his videos

  • than in person.

  • And he kind of said, once you get past the backended nature

  • of that comment, he goes, "They don't feel like

  • "they're bothering the video of me

  • "because they can pause, they can rewind,

  • "they can do things."

  • So it is just another tool.

  • For me, the way I use it, you hear me,

  • I talk about the exercises and I want it to be

  • that the students use the exercises.

  • So you use the exercise data to decide

  • what it is my students need.

  • - Cool, and then let me actually ask you

  • one final question here Shalom before we wrap.

  • Tying into this question of like looking

  • at students' scores, figuring what they need,

  • I know that a lot of the pressure's off for this year

  • in terms of state assessments,

  • but if we wanna continue to use assessments

  • just to keep track of how students are doing,

  • are there any recommendations you have?

  • This is a question from Kelly by the way,

  • to use Khan Academy to inform the assessments you're doing?

  • - We talked about this before.

  • I don't have a great answer to that

  • because the Khan Academy assessments are really not,

  • to me they're not summative assessments.

  • They're formative.

  • So I look at it not as like,

  • "Okay, here's a onetime assessment

  • "and let's see what the kids know."

  • I look at it more as an ongoing set of data for me.

  • We're working on negative numbers, addition and subtraction

  • and oh, by the way, a bunch of my kids are struggling

  • with absolute value to find distance.

  • It happens all the time,

  • that's a very difficult skill, right?

  • So I use it on an ongoing basis

  • to make formative assessment decisions as I teach.

  • I don't really think that it is a good assessment tool.

  • Not that it's a bad, but it's not necessarily designed

  • to be an assessment tool that like at the end of

  • or middle of the year, let's give the kids this,

  • okay, now I know what they need to,

  • let's focus more on this or that.

  • It's more of an ongoing assessment tool,

  • if that makes sense.

  • - Absolutely 'cause students are constantly getting feedback

  • on how they're doing.

  • You're receiving those same reports on your side.

  • Use that to empower your students,

  • empower you as an educator, not to be the final word about

  • how your students did.

  • Speaking of final words, any final words of wisdom, Shalom

  • as American educators head out for another big week

  • of preparation next week?

  • - Other than, don't be jealous of the headset.

  • Understand that, I know you're frustrated right now

  • and I know the last thing you need is somebody saying,

  • "Hey, you should use this.

  • "Hey, you should use that."

  • Every website out there is like,

  • "Yeah, we're giving this for free now

  • "and this is for free," right?

  • But they're gonna go and when this is all said and done,

  • they're gonna go and say, "Hey, remember that thing

  • "we gave you for free?

  • "It's gonna go away now.

  • "Your district or you're gonna have to pay for it."

  • And it's gimmicky.

  • Khan Academy, if there's one thing about it,

  • it is not a gimmick.

  • It is based on research, mastery-based learning

  • I think is the way to,

  • it's the way we learn everything.

  • We learn how to ride a bike,

  • we learn how to play an instrument,

  • we learn how to do everything by practicing

  • until we're good at it.

  • And this is the kind of thing that I know it's hard to think

  • of like, "Oh my God, I'm gonna dive into something now."

  • But if you do, you're going to see the benefits of it

  • and you might not use it anything like I do,

  • it might be completely different for you, all right?

  • I don't expect people to do it the way I do it.

  • But dive into it like I said, give the kids a few exercises,

  • see where the data takes you, see where the information

  • you get takes you.

  • So I wish everybody good luck

  • and make sure to join the teachers' page.

  • I don't know if I said that before on Facebook.

  • Khan Academy teachers' page or Teach with Khan.

  • There's a lot of ambassadors

  • and just otherwise experienced Khan Academy teachers

  • on there that are gonna,

  • they're happy to answer your questions

  • because they've been in the same position as you.

  • They've been at the point

  • where they didn't understand something.

  • So go on there, ask some questions.

  • - That's amazing.

  • I will include that in the chat section.

  • As mentioned before, if we didn't get

  • to your question today, my apologies.

  • Please just submit it right here,

  • which I've shared through the chat line to get help

  • within a few hours from our amazing customer support team.

  • And then finally, a huge shout out to Shalom

  • for sharing his expertise today.

  • I know it's a lot on our shoulders at the moment,

  • but I feel like you've ease our burden a little bit

  • and given us reason to be confident about the future.

  • So thank you, Shalom.

  • - Thank you for having me and good luck everybody.

  • - Have a great one everyone.

- Hey everyone, this is Jeremy Schieffelin

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