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  • Hi, I'm Phillipa Perry.

  • I'm a psychotherapist, and I'm here

  • to chat to you today about the situation we all find ourselves

  • in which is new and strange.

  • What are we supposed to think about it?

  • What are we supposed to do about it?

  • Some people want to know why it's so weird,

  • this isolation thing, and I can give you

  • a little example about that.

  • So my daughter came, tapped on the window, waved to me,

  • and then walked away again.

  • She did that to say hello, and yet I took it like a rejection.

  • My head knew it as a hello, but my body

  • thought it was like, why hasn't she come in?

  • We are all feeling this.

  • It's mind-body dissonance.

  • It's your head telling you something, your body feeling

  • something else.

  • We're in a new situation.

  • It's all completely weird, and it

  • will take some getting used to.

  • Nobody knows how at the moment, because it's a new situation,

  • but I've got a feeling we will get used to it,

  • and we will muddle through, and we will find a way,

  • and there's no way of getting it right.

  • You're going to have feelings about it.

  • It's OK to have those feelings.

  • You don't have to be happy the whole time.

  • The most important thing at this time and every time, really,

  • but we can forget about it...

  • is our relationships and looking after them.

  • How do I maintain my relationships

  • when I can't see them?

  • One little tip is when you're Skyping, look at the lens.

  • It's far more intimate when we look at the camera.

  • Another thing is it's strange when we only

  • have the exchange of words, because we're

  • used to this thing of being with someone in the sort of body

  • to body way.

  • And one way we can stay with and be with people is to have these

  • Skype machines switched on while you're watching the same TV

  • programme, while you're cooking or something.

  • It's incredibly intimate, really.

  • What if I get so stressed that I take it out on my kids?

  • If you do snap at them, apologise.

  • Don't think you have to blame them

  • for you losing your temper.

  • Go, oh, I'm so sorry.

  • I shouldn't have snapped to you then.

  • I'm stressed.

  • It's not your fault.

  • It's kind of tricky if the kids are around you,

  • and you can't be fully with them,

  • because you've got to work.

  • Because if mum and dad are there,

  • but they're not playing with you, even though you've

  • been told it's because they have to work,

  • you will feel it as rejection as a child.

  • The best thing to do in this situation

  • is not to say to them, look, I'll

  • play with you when I've done my work.

  • The best thing to do is to play with them first and try and get

  • them on something I call autopilot.

  • So if you're playing with, you know,

  • they want you to talk dollies at the doll's house

  • or make vroom vroom noises with the truck,

  • they'll eventually take over from you

  • because you won't be doing it right,

  • but they feel secure that you're interested in them

  • and you're engaged with them, so they

  • won't need to keep checking.

  • So you'll gradually be able to retreat

  • until you're almost on the laptop

  • and doing your spreadsheets.

  • But if you try and do your spreadsheets first,

  • they'll keep going, have you done it yet?

  • Have you done it yet?

  • Have you done it yet?

  • Just worry about the quality of time

  • you have when you're with them, because that's

  • the most important thing.

  • It doesn't really matter if they've

  • finished that school project or not, what matters is

  • that you enjoy being together.

  • What is society collectively feeling?

  • I don't think we've been this united for a long time.

  • At least now we've got a common enemy

  • instead of fighting each other over Brexit.

  • Remember Brexit?

  • We will probably all make up our own narrative about it.

  • So if you are a healer, like a yoga teacher,

  • you'll say the earth is healing, because we've

  • got no pollution at the moment from aeroplanes.

  • If you're a meditative sort of person, you'll go,

  • I'm exploring my inner landscape.

  • If you're a pessimist, you'll go, the end of the world

  • is nigh!

  • And these are the ways we soothe ourselves, and it's fine.

  • We can make up whatever story helps us get through.

  • I quite like the healing the world one.

  • The world will keep spinning for another few billion years.

  • Why is it so hard for teenagers?

  • When you're a teenager, you're all about finding a new tribe

  • and leaving the family behind.

  • You're ready to separate.

  • You're ready to make your way in the world,

  • and you're ready to start mating as well,

  • and you so want to get on with that.

  • You know, to us, six months is nothing.

  • To them, it's like another lifetime.

  • And so they will be angry, and they

  • will be frustrated that they've had

  • to put the brakes on this new exploration, this new time

  • of life, and we must be sympathetic that, you know,

  • this is the only generation not going

  • to pop festivals this year and setting fire to their tent

  • like they were looking forward to doing.

  • Another thing is if you think about the teenage brain,

  • their emotions are at their peak height.

  • They can feel in colour, and our feeling is like black and white

  • in comparison.

  • But their frontal lobes, their cerebral cortex,

  • this bit here where you do your thinking and your reasoning,

  • that isn't completely wired up yet,

  • so they've got all the impulses but not the mechanism

  • to hold those impulses back necessarily.

  • Those are still developing, and we can't fix it for them.

  • We want to.

  • We want them to have that great time.

  • We can't fix it, but we can be alongside them.

  • If they know we understand, it won't cure it, it won't fix it,

  • but it might make it a little bit better.

  • How the hell am I going to maintain my relationship

  • with my partner in this intensive lockdown situation?

  • Now, not only will our relationship with our child

  • be under stress, but maybe being cooped up

  • with your partner the whole time, or your sister,

  • or whoever it is you normally live with,

  • is going to be tricky too.

  • My first problem is that my husband used to go out about

  • twice a week on his own, and I could catch up with my cookery

  • programmes that I record.

  • And I used to go out once or twice a week,

  • and he would watch his war films then,

  • but now we have no time to be separate individual activities,

  • because we do insist on sitting on the sofa

  • together and not having separate TVs.

  • And I think the best thing to do is not sweat the small stuff,

  • and if you get told off for stacking the dishwasher wrong,

  • just go, oh, you're so right, rather than make it

  • into a win-lose situation.

  • You can carry on stacking the dishwasher how you always

  • do it, but listen and go, oh, it must be hard

  • for you that I stack it wrong.

  • You know, just be nice if you can be.

  • If there is any trouble in any relationship,

  • this will put a magnifying glass on it,

  • and maybe that's a good thing, because then you'd

  • know you've got an issue, you have to sort out.

  • After people have spent Christmas together,

  • divorce rates go up in January, so I'm expecting maybe

  • this enforced period of isolation

  • will have the same effect, and nothing I can say now

  • will make any difference.

  • How do I deal with the uncertainty?

  • This is all so new, this isolation stuff,

  • that you might wake up in the morning and think,

  • what's different?

  • Something's different, and then remember.

  • It's almost like you wake up from one dream

  • and into another that doesn't feel real.

  • So we feel a bit weird, and a bit odd, and a bit ungrounded,

  • which isn't helped by not being in contact with people

  • that we're normally in contact with.

  • Now, you might think, but I live on my own,

  • and I love living on my own, and it's great.

  • The thing is, when you live on your own,

  • you're choosing to live on your own.

  • And you go out into the world, you maybe go to an office,

  • and then you come back and be on your own,

  • and there's a rhythm to it.

  • And you can self-regulate by being on your own,

  • and you love your alone time.

  • But if you have to be alone, and it's not a choice,

  • it will feel weird.

  • Give it time.

  • It's early days.

  • You're not supposed to have this thing worked out by now.

  • You will work it out in your own way

  • like you always work things out in your own way.

  • It's just that we haven't done it yet.

  • You might think, when will this be over

  • and how can I cope with not knowing what the future holds?

  • You never did know what the future held.

  • We just kid ourselves there's such a thing as certainty.

  • The only thing that is certain is that everything

  • keeps changing all the time.

  • And the difference sometimes between sane and insane

  • is being able to accept change or be in denial about it.

  • Here's a time for us all to practise accepting change.

Hi, I'm Phillipa Perry.

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