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  • Erik: What does it mean to be a leader in what you do?

  • Simon: To be a leader means one thing and one thing only. It means you have followers.

  • That's it. You know? It's not about learning your style of leadership and how to adjust

  • your style to fit the situation at hand, that's management, right? Leaders only have one thing,

  • they have followers. A follower is somebody who raises their hand and volunteers to go

  • where you're going. They raise their hand and volunteer to go in the direction that

  • you're pointing. And so to lead others, means that you have a clear vision of a world that

  • does not yet exist, a world that could exist, and by articulating that cause, that vision,

  • that purpose, over and over and over again, it inspires people who believe what you believe,

  • who want to see that world built, to join, to go with you, to figure out ways, you know?

  • And so for me in my work, what leadership means, is articulating this world in which

  • the vast majority of us wake up every single day, inspired to go to work, and come home

  • every single day fulfilled by the work that we do. That doesn't mean we have to like every

  • day, you know, but we can love every day. You don't like your children every day but

  • you love your children every day, right? And so the more I talk about this world that does

  • not yet exist, because right now the world we live in, the vast majority of people, 90%-plus

  • don't love what they do, they may like it but they don't love it. When I talk about

  • this world, it inspires others who believe what I believe and want to see this world

  • built, join up and figure out in their own way how to advance that vision, so it becomes

  • real. My role is to continue to pound the pavement and put that vision out there.

Erik: What does it mean to be a leader in what you do?

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