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  • -We're back, and I'm talking to

  • the one and only Kim Kardashian West.

  • Thank you so much for doing --

  • -Live from my mom's glam room, 'cause I had --

  • -From your mom's glam room. -To keep away from my kids.

  • -Is that a painting behind you, or is that a piece of art?

  • Is that your mom? -That's a TV, and I don't know.

  • It looks like a kettle,

  • and it's just so bizarre, and then I --

  • -I thought it was like a head or something.

  • -No, it's so weird. I don't know why she has it.

  • But we can snoop through her drawers if you want.

  • It's just tons of makeup. -[ Laughs ]

  • We're in the glam room. -Yeah.

  • -I want to talk to you about

  • "Kim Kardashian West: the Justice Project."

  • This is going to air Sunday at 7pm on Oxygen.

  • What is this?

  • -So this is a documentary that I did,

  • basically following my personal journey with justice reform.

  • I started working with Alice Johnson,

  • who after 22 years was released from prison

  • from a presidential pardon.

  • She had a low-level drug offense,

  • and so I thought to myself --

  • I was a bit judgmental and thought to myself, like,

  • "Okay, I can handle supporting someone

  • that is non-violent."

  • Until I went to go visit prisons,

  • and I started to meet with so many people

  • that are incarcerated that shared their stories with me

  • and explained to me that maybe when they were

  • 14 years old, they did a horrific crime

  • because they saw all of that growing up in their lives,

  • and then is now locked away for the rest of their lives,

  • but they've totally rehabilitated themselves

  • and are now 30, 40, 50.

  • And I heard this story so many times,

  • and it just broke my heart that because people have done

  • some horrific things -- and I do believe people

  • that do a crime have to do the time,

  • but it's just a matter of like, what is fair.

  • -Yeah. -And I think our society

  • really throws people away, so I feel like,

  • ultimately everyone just wants to feel safe in society.

  • Right? So, when Alice came out,

  • you saw her face and you understood that, okay,

  • well, this is what reform looks like.

  • She would be totally amazing in our society,

  • but if you think about someone that had murdered someone,

  • you wouldn't really think that.

  • And so I wanted to kind of open the door to that

  • as I was learning it myself. -Yeah.

  • -Show a sex-trafficking victim

  • and show someone that had taken someone's life

  • or someone that had just been near someone

  • that had taken someone's life and gotten more time

  • than the person that actually used the weapon to kill someone.

  • So, just to kind of break down

  • all of these really unfair things in our justice system

  • was really important for me

  • to hopefully help other people have empathy.

  • -Yeah, it's got to feel good, too,

  • when you do get someone who's been locked up forever

  • the justice they actually deserve.

  • It's got to feel great, huh?

  • -Yeah, just to see that people get reunited --

  • like, you think it just affects one person,

  • but what really drew me to not want to stop

  • is when I met Alice, she had so many brothers and sisters.

  • She had all these grandkids,

  • great grandkids that she had never met.

  • It doesn't just affect one person.

  • It really changes their whole life and their whole family.

  • -Yeah. -So I always think like,

  • that could have just been, like, one family member of mine

  • making one bad decision that led them --

  • especially her, she would just answer the phone.

  • She was like the phone mule,

  • and she got more time than the people

  • that were actually dealing the drugs.

  • -Wow. -And it just -- this made --

  • She got a harsher sentence than Charles Manson,

  • and to me, that was insane.

  • -This airs this Sunday at 7pm,

  • and I also want to say, everyone that's been coming on

  • has been talking about their charities.

  • -Yeah. -Can you explain

  • what your company, Skims, has done?

  • -Yeah, so Skims just donated $1 million to Baby2Baby,

  • and they're really helping out families and mothers

  • that are really having a hard time dealing with

  • the coronavirus and all the effects from it.

  • So, it's an organization I've been working with for a while.

  • And on behalf of myself and Skims,

  • we really wanted to make a donation

  • and help any way we can.

  • -It's awesome that you're doing that,

  • and congrats on the documentary.

  • Thank you so much for doing this again,

  • and say hi to those kids.

  • -Bye. -Thank you, thank you.

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