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  • Well, Carrie, this is a miracle of technology that you and I have managed to get.

  • This work is a part of me.

  • Hopes there's an outtakes of the last two hours of trying to get a you like me.

  • Is this not your forte?

  • This is not my forte.

  • Needed his patients all time to get to the bottom of this.

  • And there is no, as you say, my fault.

  • But we've got there in the end with the help of needles, that something's broken.

  • Border, this said, is that What is it this thing, that skylight or something I've got here on the left.

  • So it's not only equipment yet, so basically, what we're saying is, you're doing you're not paying your daughter.

  • May my son Jack of sorted it.

  • So the oldies have got no jobs.

  • Yes.

  • I'll speak in, Actually, in terms of the situation that everybody is in the moment, grown a virus wise.

  • Yeah, well, we will appreciate what good lives we've got, but you've got a wife who's a fantastic singer, a door through to entertain a great piano player on the son that you could nip in the back garden.

  • Never gave a footy with.

  • So compared to most, that's not bad.

  • You're locked down.

  • Is it?

  • Yeah, we have mean too bad, obviously.

  • What?

  • We're looking at a nice guy in the back.

  • I'm sure even see it.

  • This is the only position I could charge me forward and do everything that I needed to do.

  • So I'm not trying to get the guy named Bob yet, but let's move very fortunate, you know, being for so many families as well on, Dhe said.

  • We were fortunate.

  • A nice family time together too often.

  • Now I think all wasn't I was so busy a different time.

  • So it is nice to almost have a a recess, if you like with your family, and make sure that we try and use this time as well as they possibly can be.

  • It's a difficult time for everyone at this moment with by force has really affected, our show has said, trying to use the times good as we can.

  • Well, I use some of my time yesterday to catch up with your buddy Gene.

  • If on Dhe come in the night, the nation could do with a bit of a bit of a bit of human, a bit of light heartedness.

  • I thought the best thing to do to cheer everybody up was to ask him about his time, that Valencia, because I know that also makes you chuckle.

  • But actually, I mean, it will be going up later today.

  • You'll be able to see really, really interesting.

  • Brutally honest.

  • Talked about the mistakes he made, He said, I should never have taken the job is in itself a brutally honest I took the job because of my own ego.

  • Think I could just walk into it and you're just a litany of mistakes the way we and he was saying things again.

  • You know as well as I do, saying things like I wasn't direct enough.

  • I didn't wasn't decisive in decision.

  • It was a complete personality change.

  • He said.

  • He would never, ever become a manager again.

  • So it got me thinking, and that's a question that you've been asked before.

  • And I don't know if it's something that you regularly visit in your mind but even know asking, will you or when you?

  • But when you think about the possibility of yourself becoming a manager or a coach, what do you think of what your first thoughts buffets?

  • Thoughts when it went off.

  • When I think of myself, maybe going into management sort of felt I was thinking about 10 or 15 years ago would be possibly hassle.

  • Really, I used to look at it and just think sometimes is it where everything you go through?

  • I always remember generally a saying to not to may, to to a group of players saying, In management, You're looking if you have 10 moments when you look back and think, Wow, if that means you're a top manager.

  • If you have those type of moments and and it's it's very difficult to have those mortars, a manager and so much passion and stress along the way, just just waiting for that moment at the end of the season, maybe a toll field promotion, whatever it may be a lot of time for manages, it doesn't call, Really, I think for manages there's a lot of there's a lot of what we don't see.

  • I think there's a there's an active managers and rightly so press conferences, speaking to players I don't ever know, think that themselves that often really gotta play the actor all the time on DDE.

  • That must be really, really difficult speaking to players and try to get played on Saturday.

  • You probably possibly don't Wraith or you don't like trying to get an agent on side to side of play.

  • But if we don't like it, it's all this constant putting this act on putting this performance on managing people on DDE.

  • I'm just not sure if I would be cut out for that.

  • I don't really like people act into me or me being like that.

  • I am Venit straight with people, and I just think sometimes our manager, you have to be like that really Intel players.

  • Sometimes what they wanna hear, know the truth on I'm not sure I would be a court out for money, as many people think I would be.

  • I mean, I'm always Axtell seeing you'd be a manager.

  • Even former cultures and managers have had.

  • I'm seeing you do this and do that now that that's not gonna happen.

  • But I do sometimes think it's probably best I've stayed away from it.

  • Is that part of you, though that would like to test yourself?

  • I mean, whether or not that's the ego that Gary was talking about yesterday in his particular circumstances.

  • You know, you're all different individuals, but is there a part of you that would like having been in football all of your life?

  • Is that is there?

  • It's like a tiny it to remain a big it's that you need to scratch.

  • No.

  • And I think that's a big problem for managers.

  • I think that's a big problem for manners.

  • You have been sacked in a job and they then I've got this massive it should have to scratch.

  • It's almost like they gotta prove them said yes, they want to prove the press or the people wrong, that the eye good managers.

  • But it's almost to prove it to themselves and those that relief think when they do a good job or the job's over and it's gone quite well, it's all relaxed and in some ways and say OK, I have proven myself as a mind that yet on sometimes I look at someone who's had a brilliant football career and you got in somewhere within the fish job, with well for a number of different reasons.

  • On it's like I pay, for example, is teary on Bree.

  • Syrian Army is the best player to ever play in the Premier League.

  • Is one of the Whale Corp.

  • There's nothing.

  • There's nothing he hasn't done.

  • So I mean, what a creative off.

  • Gonna be so proud off.

  • But then it goes into managing.

  • It doesn't go well at Monaco for three months, you know?

  • I mean, you can't really do that job in three months, but I could see the H whenever sort he had long after.

  • Don't you see the embarrassment on his face?

  • Because he didn't come back to sky, But he pop into the studio now and again with national games.

  • If you don't feel he was a little bit embarrassed, but I was gonna Monica will try and tell you the reasons or what?

  • The reasons excuses, that's what people have to do, is manages.

  • It just eats them all.

  • And he's now took a job in the molester.

  • Think Yeah, Andi, I think that started quite well and good look, too, and, you know, why should he had only started the top?

  • It's great that, you know, starting a league that he knows as well having a second job there, but I could almost imagine teary, possibly struggling to sleep in on his mind constantly.

  • I've got I've got a wrong this, right?

  • I've got to right this wrong because that the Monaco so forget I've won the whale called Forget one of the last Forget I'm the best Premier League player of all time.

  • Three months at Monaco was probably consumed in that much that has possibly forced them to go to the Analects.

  • Maybe moved away from his family all to prove that he can be a marriage and he wants to manage in the future.

  • And sometimes I'll look at that.

  • I'm just not prepared.

  • T let management take all my life.

  • Football at times takes all my life, but I think there's a difference.

  • I think management.

  • Sometimes you can take over your life and it can be unhealthy in some ways.

  • I think for me at the moment football is a massive part of my life.

  • Possibly if you actually what if she would say took over me life But that's that's nothing new.

  • There's so many good things that I love about the job that I do now, and I just think to be honest, I think I've got one of the best jobs on TV and be absolutely stupid to take a job, lower down divisions and divisions.

  • I don't know.

  • To try improve.

  • I could be amount of new Montana proved to myself, or try and prove it to everyone out there Who says, Oh, it's easy job on, Sit on the couch in upon the kid That's easy.

  • Took the easy option.

  • I never took the easy option.

  • What does a manager do when he gets sacked?

  • Face Thing he does is trying to touch with sky and see if you can get on on the TV, the time for himself out there to get a new job.

  • Lots of them.

  • Come on.

  • But the hole plus several.

  • Okay, someone decent.

  • But just because just because you're good put it as probably God, he's proven, if you like, doesn't mean you're gonna be a great manager because you're a great manager doesn't mean you've reported it completely different.

  • Even though we're speaking about football and you know what I am doing?

  • Debate tactics.

  • We talked about all these different things.

  • There's no guarantee that you can go from one job to do that.

  • Is there any part off the fear of failure as well?

  • Makes up your mind not to be a manager, that's all.

  • Uh, this is what I say.

  • I had a good career once.

  • I had a great company.

  • Listen, even look what everyone would say.

  • How good their own career.

  • Waas If you like the saintly hundreds of players who are better careers, the mayor is probably very fortunate.

  • I have probably better clear the place and lower leagues or whatever, So I got a lot to lose.

  • I mean, I'm I'm not sure, e I think your football career is always there.

  • Really.

  • Anyone's really, ever gonna forget that in teams of believing in terms of the getaway for Major if you can't take you, By the way, you have a fabulous career, a fabulous career that many, many many would envy, and but it doesn't take that away.

  • But you're the way you played.

  • The game, as in any professional football, is about being a winner, playing at the top level, going out, keeping your place in the team, you know, keeping that being in the England squad or whatever.

  • I'm asking, Do you think maybe feet for you and other players as well.

  • There's a path of them.

  • The the thought of it not working out the thought of failure puts them off doing it.

  • Well, I wouldn't say that.

  • Put me off if I'm being totally honest.

  • But it is something you look at.

  • I do think some sounds.

  • The ridicule of managers is.

  • Is the sculpture that disgraceful?

  • Sometimes you see the way people talk about them, as if they haven't got a clue about what to do.

  • And it almost feels like unless you become Alex Ferguson, pet quality all the year in clock, your failure.

  • Whether so, money managers in the Premier League maybe never want nothing but the guy, Probably three or four Premier Li jobs.

  • If you're managing the perimeter with three or four different teams, I think you've got a very good family.

  • You have a very good managerial.

  • Three.

  • I think it's really well, you know, that's the top level on.

  • It's like almost saying Well, because I wasn't power Maldini.

  • It means my creators with me nothing, nothing.

  • It's not like that.

  • It's you know, I think that sometimes I look a lot that manager so manages so many managers they disrespected because our more t bone, anything below the job, that they are difficult, safe.

  • We got them, you know?

  • And I think sometimes that is gonna dismiss the little bit when we talk about manages, really, But in terms of feet, if only I had a big fear of failure is a player and that's what drove me on.