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  • this is any of us decide who's going first now?

  • Sure.

  • Well, my Not a Hello, everyone.

  • And welcome Thio.

  • Another edition of Robots Weekly.

  • Ah, once again, always with me is Chris Williams.

  • Hi, everyone.

  • How's it going?

  • Uh, we're, uh We're doing a special weekend episode.

  • And sorry for the delay.

  • We, as always, had technical issues.

  • And luckily, this time we're actually recording and like, last time with Vic.

  • Um, once again we have in the studio or on the hangout.

  • Brick Waldron.

  • Um, he is the is the man behind Johnny five in more ways than one.

  • Yeah, he created a library, if you haven't heard of it yet called Johnny five, which is a firm, ana based right application robotics framework is that I don't even know how to best describe it's something crazy.

  • Why don't you each component framework?

  • Yes.

  • There you go.

  • All the buzz words, exactly.

  • Robots.

  • Yeah, and he's a ah corgi queer, remember?

  • And t c 39 AA member who puts out awesome awesome notes for all of us to consume after the fact.

  • And he's the 1st 1 in javascript planned to propose to his now fiancee soon to be wife?

  • Hopefully, no.

  • With a robot.

  • So we actually got married in January.

  • This is like the part where we're like, OK, I guess we have to get married with our friends and family now.

  • Nice.

  • So you're already married?

  • So it's now wife.

  • Not now.

  • Fiance.

  • Uh, he's either way, You're still the only one who actually proposed to somebody with a robot.

  • The robot.

  • Exactly.

  • And that is it.

  • I haven't put it in like a glass case.

  • Make it locked in.

  • That is perfect.

  • And you could He sits on a shelf.

  • It's a nice place.

  • And equally, I would say that Rick has the best hair in Java script.

  • So, uh, this been challengers to that thing right now?

  • Pavel from Vegas definitely has me beat.

  • Um, and prior to that brought me Sharp did not stand with a full on Mohawk for awhile, so he definitely didn't need that, though.

  • All right, well, let's let's kind of get this.

  • This kick started and Ah, So this is the episode 2.1 a retry with Rick Waldron?

  • Um, I am.

  • And today we're gonna be talking about Ah, International Robots Day and Johnny five and everything else that he has to you.

  • Ah, to talk about.

  • So, Rick, tell us a little bit about the Johnny five project.

  • Um, Well, so hopefully by now, most people listening know about it.

  • I'm ideally.

  • And for those of you that are learning about it for the very first time right now, that's exciting.

  • I encourage you to check out the repo, which is now conveniently located at an address that I could pronounce the actual real words.

  • Get home dot com slash our waldron flesh.

  • Join with a dash between Johnny five.

  • I recently had my get hub user name upgraded from no vowels to adequate number of owls s.

  • Oh, yes, it masters my twitter handle, uh, to all those people who I drove insane over the air when they just assume that they could type r w a L T R O.

  • And I apologize.

  • But now you can Now it's intuitive.

  • What's the back story with that?

  • Did somebody get in there, get into the get hubs before you did?

  • No, you're okay.

  • Here's the bags.

  • You just wanted to screw with people.

  • Uh, one of my favorite bands from Norway.

  • There I, uh, Norwegian rock n roll band called Turbo.

  • Nay, bro, Uh, sometimes they have there alone on, like, posters in album Mark Sands vowels.

  • So when I created my get help account, I think I was probably listening to their apocalypse Do dabble or something.

  • And I was like, Oh, yeah, no vowels.

  • That's awesome.

  • And, um, uh, I'm sorry that I did that for, like, a month later.

  • I actually registered the r w ale, the our when, uh, user name.

  • And but that boy already had a bunch of stuff along, get hopes.

  • It was like, Oh, man, it seems we have a pain in the butt.

  • The switch over.

  • I'll just It will be a big deal knowing online total care.

  • No one's ever look at this crap.

  • Anyway.

  • Uh, turns out that none of those things were true.

  • And I was a pain in the ass for people typing for at least two or three gators.

  • So I apologize.

  • It's fixed now.

  • Um, I won't do it again.

  • Don't wait joint.

  • You can find it.

  • They're easily typed.

  • Boom.

  • There you go.

  • Oh, and by the way, I was inspired to make the change by a Corey Frank who also works at both Cool with me who had done the same thing he had, like North 37 or something.

  • And he just wanted narf, which is this last name backwards.

  • And he was like, Hey, that process is actually really easy.

  • You just send them an email and asked them if they can, like, kill whatever.

  • Like a, like do a switch or something.

  • And then there's now a button, and it's so much easier.

  • It's awesome.

  • Anyway, why did they killed our Waldron?

  • And I did a switch of user name from my other count, and it was done in like and they do redirects for you.

  • Hey.

  • Wow, that's also great.

  • So I didn't have any of my, like, local get and fame files or, you know, like in the dot get directory of Yeah, you have my repose.

  • It just automatically does the redirects for you.

  • Amazing.

  • Okay, so that's what we're here to power the gate.

  • Taub's Yes, exactly.

  • Uh, you want talk about getting home?

  • Talk to Holden.

  • If you want to talk about how robots doctor me before Krystal, forget anybody.

  • You're all invited.

  • Um, so a li I had, like, this agenda that I had brought up at version two of this was, I guess, technically our bird won our first release of this show.

  • Uh, mostly, I wanted to talk about contributions from other people.

  • Like, who cares what I'm doing right now?

  • Uh, because I'm more excited about what other people are doing with Giant, but, uh, so one of the big things and this has been kind of like a thorn in a project side for a very long time was, uh, wireless nous for the ability to not be tendered to, ah, host machine in in any way.

  • And I gotta think Jeff Haas sounded analysis on Twitter for basically being one of, like, the greatest human beings I've ever met.

  • That's a pretty incredible um, you didn't like industrial design In his spare time, He's also has become the de facto maintainer of Vermont, a pro coal and maintain standard for Moloch, and has been working on a prom pickle configurable for model, which allow you just sort of, like, pick and choose support for a variety of of of use, case driven hardware scenarios, like if I want just analog sensors and servos.

  • I can pick those things that are total output, a built for model that I could then flash to them the device.

  • So he's working on that.

  • But, um, in meantime, he's just a all around awesome guy.

  • He's also the author of Breakout Js What You Tell her to Johnny five but is geared more towards the browser mute and using Web sockets doctor devices.

  • So check that out as well.

  • Also, qualify as has never But, um, because he uses node after from the browser to sir anyway, so he could be into a very awesome fact that technically, experience should just work.

  • Just work.

  • No only means just work as long as the firmware is up to date, which is actually not easy to German.

  • Nor is it easy to correct.

  • Uh, but Jeff, being the ultimate brilliant genius mad scientist that he is, came over my house.

  • One from the evening had a gathering of people friends school Otto, Juan Pablo Barrett, Icka, Matt Bergman, Jeff Hoffs.

  • I think that's everybody there.

  • I swear there's more people in my house.

  • I think that's about it.

  • If I forgot, who else was at my house that night.

  • I totally sorry.

  • Walked us through, like setting up expertise.

  • And turned out it does.

  • Just works once you get that the firmware correctly installed on.

  • And he has this little program that the processing sketched, there's a little stand alone program that you could run that you can configure the programmer and receiver experience.

  • So we did that.

  • And then I was so inspired by our success that I finally built my remaining bong bought that I had to still saying in the package, Uh and, well, let me show you.

  • This is exciting.

  • It is a multi board, uh, wireless.

  • Well, with ex bees experience.

  • Stay right there.

  • I'm gonna take something.

  • Mmm.

  • Ah.

  • There.

  • Oh, so now I'm going to, uh, one second here, right?

  • Well, only you somebody.

  • Somebody just don't worry.

  • I got it.

  • Okay.

  • Right.

  • You're coming with me now.

  • All right.

  • This guy's got a little bit of power, so it's move around because you could see some control set up over here.

  • This control speed, this is how it's talking way.

  • Have the control board, and then the baht, which is It's he Yeah, I'm here.

  • All right, So now using my handy dandy little tinker kit.

  • Do a stick.

  • Oh, the dog.

  • Don't drink it.

  • Attacks run away.

  • It's my dog.

  • Well, don't bump It addressed, Dan.

  • Well, yeah, It's me.

  • Still over here pretty tight, right?

  • Yeah.

  • Awesome stuff.

  • Yeah, Yeah.

  • Get back over here.

  • Back right up.

  • Nice.

  • Who knew we had such a live audience?

  • How exciting is that, Right?

  • This is exactly why Was no spots now with Johnny five.

  • Um, So how much of a range do you get with that?

  • Uh, it depends on it.

  • Depends on the X device.

  • I'm using Steris One, which is, uh I mean, I can control that pretty much all the way to my kitchen, which I don't really know It is, but I'll give you an idea.

  • Should be between.

  • I was really excited about how this switching things working.

  • Let me get you down there.

  • Okay?

  • Office, kitchen.

  • And I get controlling from the office to about the kitchen, and it starts to get water.

  • So it's about 20 some odd feet 20.

  • Okay.

  • But I also bought, like, the the Really like low, and I'm sorry, but that's the Lewin devices to get just you know, to start off with, right?

  • So there's that, and that's really exciting.

  • Then the next really big, exciting thing, uh, was my directional motor support, courtesy of Andrew Future, who's actually from Australia.

  • And I believe he was the, um uh, one of the quarter was the coordinator for Don't want stay in Sydney.

  • He's ability.

  • A whole slew of blocks down there, One of which he needed bi directional motor sport because he got himself, uh, motor controller board from Spark Fun.

  • Um, and the old motor class was just It was like, uh, basically, like, whipped it up in a day.

  • It was pretty boring and not that fun.

  • And I had really done anything with it, and he took it to a whole new level.

  • Uh, bringing in full on bidirectional motor sport Just incredible, because that means, you know, control.

  • You know, bipolar visi motors beyond.

  • Just like little toy motors, Right?

  • Right.

  • Then I went and got one of these guys, right?

  • Yeah, e not servos who know this thing's birthday requires a whole lot of battery power.

  • So because with for Tripoli block I replaced that sticks triple A block.

  • Who in the tool, man.

  • Taylor.

  • More power anyway.

  • A guy that cocaine problem, didn't he?

  • Yes, he did.

  • Wait, he didn't Really.

  • Everyone indoors that around exactly.

  • Children indoors?

  • No.

  • So the exciting thing is, though, is that we have not only have you think this is plugged it because I don't feel like switching around the divorce.

  • I only have the one set, but this could also be wire looked.

  • And it has been what?

  • Our lives in the past.

  • I've done that.

  • But more importantly, it brings a whole new set off capabilities to 25.

  • And this brings me back to my my RC car days when we used to do a lot of this kind of stuff with the speed controllers and hooking up servos and motors.

  • Nice network.

  • The general benefit is, uh, the ability control motor.

  • More like a service, right?

  • Yeah.

  • Setting Lehman.

  • So So basically, now you can use motors, which, uh which ultimately means more speed.

  • Right?

  • So continue servos are, you know, fairly limited in the amount of heat.

  • Output is also limited amount of power there.

  • More for circles in general are a heavy lifting their the mule of hardware if you will, where you know you want to use but poor DC Motors for, like, making a remote control cars things that you want to go so fast but also consume a lot more power.

  • Right.

  • So thanks to you, Andrew Fisher, you cannot do that again.

  • So you combine the two things Jeffs contribution.

  • But that's beast and his contributions.

  • You can now program remote control cards with node and JavaScript.

  • So So with the bi directional, then you can get one going in one way, or they were going another way and then, you know, forward backward.

  • Yeah, I know that, but yeah, I'm just saying And then independently, independently.

  • Yes, I know.

  • Make them back up.

  • Left or backup.

  • Right?

  • If you'd like.

  • Yes.

  • Thank you.

  • Yes.

  • No, I do.

  • I do appreciate the clarification clarification questions, because sometimes I have a tendency to sort of hand wave through.

  • And he's just so many things I wanna talk about.

  • Um, which brings me to my next thing Also motor related.

  • Now, remember, I mentioned earlier that you didn't working on new and exciting support for, you know, don't based on Hamada, one of the things on the way from between standard for Mata and configurable Jeff and built the thing called Advanced Ramada, which had stepper motor sport, which is that's also but because that's not exactly a tomato, which John five.

  • It always sort of like, adhere to There was no support, Johnny five stepper motors, which I'm sure made people like alliance to a very sad Exactly.

  • So with that in mind, community contribution from Dwayne Method is I believe that I am president.

  • Uh, he come he contributed an entire stepper motor a p I try it on up the street for you.

  • It's really awful.

  • And check this out.

  • It's a sting.

  • So you can It is actually capable of firing callbacks once it reaches its, uh, it's destination after every given step.

  • All right.

  • Pretty comprehensive.

  • AP.

  • I actually really simple to use to Oh, I'm gonna go ahead and, uh, you quit, Devil that.

  • Yeah.

  • Yeah, well, links to O.

  • R.

  • The repose linked to all the repose and all the all the code samples later.

  • Absolutely.

  • So this, uh, this demonstration is quite fun, actually.

  • Actually borrowed a little technique from from pop of using the key press library to bind events to your keyboard and the terminal struck this out, huh?

  • Great.

  • And out there, there were little three steps.

  • Little steps.

  • Now, wait.

  • Check this out.

  • More speed using one through nine for speed.

  • Yeah, I nice.

  • No, back it up so you can actually see me controlling you.

  • It's pretty urgent.

  • It's awesome, right?

  • Yeah, but there's a lot of extra power, though, is you get Steve got a 12 volt playing and running the candle.

  • Yes, it's ah, to be sure.

  • Cool.

  • So if it's pretty early in development right now, I am.

  • It works best with blue.

  • Uh, sorry, motor driver.

  • I'll get you.

  • The actual model number will be available in the show Notes.

  • What?

  • Also our spark funds, You see?

  • Easy step driver, and it works.

  • The one's arguing.

  • These guys high current transistors united fire a whole thing on your own.

  • Uh oh, so, yeah, that's really exciting, Right?

  • So combined again.

  • Jeff's contribution.

  • Uh, with many taking for Mata, the unfortunately more more or less abandoned by its owners protocol.

  • And with Twain's contribution, that's really exciting.

  • You could control separately.

  • You can do all this promoter good in this stuff you want.

  • You don't like building three D printers?

  • Did you want to throw for people?

  • Don't that aren't familiar with stepper motors?

  • Of the use cases of them at bare minimum, they're great for extra order pulls on a three D printer.

  • But where do they fit in?

  • Between a motor, which is raw speed and a servo, which is high control.

  • Okay, so ah, Serbo is is is like you're basically you're workhorse, the mule of the operation.

  • And usually it's, you know, 0 to 180 degree motion.

  • And more than likely, you're going to have, like, a gear set connected to that to expect, you know, widen its its range.

  • But the point of using servos is is torque.

  • You want strength in those movements?

  • The point of view stepper motor is that you can actually control each each like, uh, micro step okay off the entire rotation.

  • So if I need to go a very, very precise distance in any of 0 to 360 degrees, I can calculate it down to the step, Whereas you have to use a continuous servo to get 360 degrees on.

  • Then there's actually no control like you.

  • Just I have speed control.

  • You don't have a number of revolutions control which step promoters give you the full Revolution patrol, which is incredibly awful.

  • So the program that you just saw was basically attaching those keen princes, uh, one step two up to several steps within the full rotation.

  • So nine was basically, like, I think that was like s.

  • So there's 200 steps a revolution on on these particular right?

  • So basic stepper.

  • So that was, like, you know, 101 100 right down to the one.

  • I mean, if you press the one on the keyboard, you you know, it was more more regular than that.

  • The down Finally, it's not hard coded.

  • It's It's actually just doing the math on flying.

  • Uh, so the downside of the sides the downside is, generally speaking, the size the stepper motor is gonna be a bigger physical.

  • So I can I can show you.

  • You see the difference.

  • Desirable?

  • Yep.

  • Pepper.

  • Yep.

  • Big difference.

  • But depending on the volume of your project, that that difference might be worthwhile.

  • Yep.

  • And clothes and a case.

  • Yeah, exactly.

  • Um, another thing to keep in mind.

  • It's like I said, This requires a hell of a lot of power.

  • Where is one you let get away with about nine ball swung for servos.

  • Nine bullets will still popular like power, too, but you need an independent source.

  • One stepper absolutely needs its own source, and it's usually from 8 to 35 bolts for something around the side.

  • But he's been here 29 volt batteries in Siri's.

  • You got it down Exactly.

  • Yeah.

  • Also interest.

  • Waiting's nothing yet.

  • Another interesting thing is, uh, these generate a lot of heat, so you have to have a heat.

  • Think about that.

  • Well, if you were going to build something, uh, you know, that would be used, you know, long term amount of power, like three D printers.

  • And then you would absolutely want to figure out a way to draw heat away, huh?

  • But that, of course, completely correlates to mechanisms and how it works.

  • Right?

  • Uses no.

  • Directly uses current too Turnem controlled test.

  • So it's really exciting, right?

  • Uh, you know, like, all of this is great and all, but I was running out of, uh, uh, personnel power.

  • That is myself.

  • Keeping track of all itself and got a number of emails about documentation.

  • So I finally just sucked it up and start writing actual mortal docks For all the AP ice was great, because when I started discovering, like, little tiny inconsistencies here and there things that I was actually, this is totally unnecessary.

  • So we could get rid of it.

  • And maybe he's here.

  • So So I pushed up a bunch of doctor a few move like them or, uh, you know, simple things, you know, like the board object pin object led is basic and Alak sensors and servos tweeted something about it.

  • The next morning, I woke up and Julian from Colombia, uh, Ali from the UK on another gentleman, who again, I can't remember, did, like, spend the night like adding and removing and reorganizing the docks.

  • And I was like, This is incredible.

  • This is totally awesome.

  • Like the power of open source, right?

  • Exactly.

  • You know, there's that story about, like, things like Jim Bowman's story.

  • Magic elves.

  • Yeah.

  • Magical.

  • Coming in for the for the guy for Christmas or something like that.

  • Yeah.

  • You know what I'm talking about?

  • Yeah.

  • I never see you low I got my shoe is we're all made exactly.

  • Uh, those those guys really like, you know, high five plus someone's them.

  • Really awesome then, right, Uh, this other gentleman who have actually also, like, just I've made him a contributor on the repo cause he's like he's been I'm pretty sure he watches all the tickets.

  • Uh, totally awesome.

  • Do's name of this, uh, hopefully pronounces right d van d i v a n anyway.

  • Totally rad dude response to everybody's very helpful.

  • He just wrote the docks for the the the paying ultrasonic sensor moderate like bow reporting in.

  • So it is a little bit complicated to use that particular model because it requires a special support for pulse in which Julian got here, had had written specially for Johnny five, which is also includes, like, a modified version of standard for Mata.

  • So d van again.

  • Hopefully I'm saying I think he actually went and found the instruction that I wrote, like a year ago, somewhere in the deep issues, and translated them all over the docks of now.

  • The dock space wow is not only just like, here's Gaby, I have used it.

  • It's like here's how to actually get set up so you can use it.

  • And, you know, the troubleshooting part is also included, Docks.

  • That is totally awesome.

  • Wow.

  • So free labor is really exciting.

  • Like having people They're like, enthusiastic, like contributing.

  • So I will have their all of these people get out of ur owls and twitter handles available in the show notes so you can follow them.

  • And she will outsource that, too.

  • There, Chris.

  • Uh, you know, all projects have their the things I'm gonna also said to Matt public sake.

  • All right, Fair enough.

  • All right, So what else she got, Rick?

  • Uh 01 last thing.

  • Um, so I mentioned a possible earlier from Las Vegas.

  • He, um he's a character man.

  • This guy's great.

  • I only learned about who he was, based on a video that he made.

  • So he's one of the co organizers of No, but stay.

  • That was fate.

  • Great.

  • And I somebody must have tweeted or retweeted a video that he created where he was interred.

  • Sorry.

  • I looked up because I realized I have to reach up in a second to show you a thing.

  • So in preparation for this, he realized you don't like the Beatles Reeboks for, you know, they're like 100 bucks over $119 he wanted everybody at the event to have a little box to build.

  • So he also runs wth E uh, Cameron, the name of it.

  • It's a local hacker space in hardware.

  • Hacking speaks in Las Vegas.

  • So with tools he had available to him, he whipped up a little, uh, chassis.

  • And basically, it's a laser cut.

  • I don't would.

  • And then here's the awesome thing he made, like a 20 minute long video using this awesome like head mounted camera of himself, explaining and building the device building a little box for, like, just here's your, uh, parts and then walking you through building in.

  • So my wife and I sat and we watched it on TV on Apple TV one day like full side screens.

  • And where is this lake?

  • This is still a great liking.

  • Then I tweeted Adam Housley you to make a series out of it.

  • I love this, um, and then lives.

  • It's like, Hey, you know what?

  • I would love the build one of these, so in time for, uh, Norm but they he said everyone.

  • Unfortunately, I brought with me to know about, say, in York.

  • But fortunately, I didn't have time to build itself.

  • Was too busy making terrible what else was building things and being successful and having fun.

  • So then, like the following weekend, I decided, you know?

  • All right, this is my time.

  • I'm gonna get to this thing.

  • It's gonna be a lot of fun.

  • So he could send a, uh the all the parts necessary to build this okay, is also included.

  • Thes awesome.

  • Little like printed cut outs of like, cat face and cat years receive.

  • So yeah, I'm still here.

  • Hold on a second.

  • Yeah, I know.

  • I We got you.

  • Are something crashing there about, um nice.

  • Right.

  • So you would put this You cut this out and put it on the scoop right front, and then you would.

  • He was way.

  • Have a visitor here.

  • You cut is up and put those on on the sides.

  • And then this This one, you and I have two of them.

  • You would put this on the bill like I don't really like cats.

  • Yes, but gets what Love dogs.

  • Mary, I go So I had my wife sent me the best possible picture of our French bulldog taco that she could come up with.

  • I think you nailed it.

  • Beautiful success.

  • So that technically called the taco box.

  • Um, So where'd you go with Bulldog?

  • I've been calling a bulldog, but to be honest with you, but as you can see, look at this thing.

  • This thing is great, right?

  • Yeah, it's It's just everything is covered and look.

  • Okay.

  • Wire ties.

  • The whole high settles in.

  • And then you got you got the battery walk in there.

  • He's nice.

  • Nice.

  • Yeah.

  • You just ruin our Guido wanted top.

  • Oh, bold Autobot.

  • It's great.

  • I'm sales proud.

  • It's really cool.

  • Oh, in on sale, they three d printed the charitable, uh, mounts knife.

  • All right, so the key is that the cost is reduced.

  • But you would either have to have access to a local hack shop or hacker space, right?

  • Yeah.

  • He published all of the, uh, the files for, So we have all the facts.

  • This is open source.

  • You.

  • So you have a laser print, A laser cutter in my basement?

  • Yeah, like I'm sure Chris Williams probably does But if anyone wants to ship one eye, I'll give them my address.

  • You go through.

  • This is all really exciting for me.

  • Uh, more exciting than what I've been doing, which is just, you know, uh, basically, I I think I think I made it.

  • So the p w n enforced when you try to do things like, uh, fading led, he's right.

  • I'm getting it all now, Um, but what everybody else is doing is arm or exciting.

  • Um, So what's that thing on my agenda that I wrote down?

  • So what's the next big laws I want to give to everybody?

  • Oh, go.

  • Sorry.

  • I had a little helper here.

  • She she loves robots.

  • All about robots.

  • So, Rick, she was ecstatic to see your little talk about Well, so, um, though one of the questions I want to throw to you was Where do you see Johnny Five growing?

  • I mean, there's a lot of influence of late or not influence.

  • That's the wrong thing.

  • Influx of late of community additions.

  • Um, are you gonna, like, define a forward path of Here's where we're going with marching and Wu or run how it runs so far letting other people decide how it rose has really been working well for me.

  • Um, I've only had two D'oh!

  • You know, like, kind of put my foot down on a few things, like once or twice, but was great because they will appoint to other existing projects.

  • Like somebody was like, Hey, what about connecting class and 25?

  • I was like, What about just used the one of the two Autumn Connect projects that already exists and, you know, closed the chicken.

  • That person was really stoked that those things existed and they got it.

  • They understood, like, Oh, I see that I don't need to have all of this in excellent library.

  • So I think limiting the scope of Johnny 52 things that attached Thio my her control really?

  • Right.

  • And then basically, from there, uh, I've seen a couple of interesting things pop up that inspired me to, uh, basically push forward on a notion that I have off defining the Johnny five Ap eyes as a a standard interface for programming.

  • Robots of a promise crept right, So right, Ideally.

  • So manufacturers convey, basically go on, go and embed this directly, right?

  • Like the interface, right?

  • Yeah, exactly like this is basically the conceptually it's, uh, you create objects in your program, that representative piece of hardware and its state and its behavior.

  • And that's that.

  • That's that's really like the right highest cool thing, right?

  • Sure.

  • Things are in flute thing.

  • Their output, right?

  • You put in put things, emit events to your program up.

  • What things don't.

  • Yep.

  • That that that sort of thing.

  • And then, like, sort of, you know, basically like finding this at a confident standard over somebody had implemented the whole board object and the servo object in order to program.

  • Uh eh, eh, What is the Of course, it's, uh, leads.

  • Motion produces a board that and I can't think of the actual device model name.

  • It'll be in the show notes.

  • Anyway, they implemented the port object in the servo classed right, as in order to have a matching eight Johnny five a p i.

  • But to control this other board and I was like this is actually really inspiring.

  • Well, you've got it totally makes sense, because theoretically, I can run any one of the program's written with that.

  • Oh, with that with joint as long as I've got the servos plugged into this.

  • I mean, it just changed the pins around.

  • If I even have to work, just plug this pins in the same, uh, has their program is and it should actually just work.

  • So it occurred to me like that Freaking brilliant.

  • If we just have, like, John Clouds, it becomes the the standard.

  • And then it doesn't matter if you're programming, you know, like a testicle, like on the board or a beagle bone on the board will happen.

  • This standard interface that on the surface, you know, functionally and behaviorally is same programming as you would with Johnny five in its current state.

  • So we don't really one program can shift from beagle bone to a testicle to running on.

  • Ah, I control in a an artery.

  • No.

  • And it's the same program, right?

  • Doesn't matter and just works.

  • And that is my goal.

  • That's what I want.

  • So is really establish this as the maid to like, This is how we want the program hardware, specifically robotics hardware in Java script.

  • So is there any sort of standards, organization or standards committee that could control that, or is it just agreement upon everyone.

  • Well, so far I've just got an agreement.

  • Think I met with one of the creators of Tess alone.

  • He's, uh this This is actually before they're they're huge, Curly, and not not not ready for explosion of publicity earlier this week, right?

  • I think that he still wanted that to stay under wraps for quite some time because it's still, like building designing the boards.

  • But yeah, we met, like, two weeks ago and disgust on, and I proposed the idea to him.

  • He loves it like, and he understood exactly what the goals were.

  • So that's really exciting, That is.

  • That is because if you could, like, put a put a stamp on that on that board and said this one understands the Johnny Five protocols or whatever you wanna call that you got, You nailed it.

  • So then I got in touch with the guy who wrote the other one.

  • Torque was inspired, gave me this idea with hidden, and he was like, Yeah, this is brilliant.

  • I'm totally down with this idea.

  • So, like, it starts coming coming together so that a part of this is, you know, first getting the formal doc's finished, like for all the models and then right iron out any like, uh, anything that feels awkward or doesn't like right, Right when it doesn't compose well or or whatever and then reaching like a one point and then basically saying like, Okay, let's just define the AP eyes as as a standard interface.

  • And what are the semantics?

  • Boom.

  • Yeah, and that'd be nice to have a bunch of bored manufacturers all sit down and say Yes, that's, uh or like, not even you're not even.

  • But I'm just saying, like, really right.

  • Like it to be like a community standard through and not and not what?

  • What someone go off in high jacket or fork it or something like that, Right?

  • Blake, I think I think that the new blocked community is the one that is emerging Is is very special and quite different, even from the Web developer community.

  • Or like the nude middleware community server, where community, uh, no boxes quite different.

  • And I think that, uh, it's I don't how to describe it, but I get I get the feeling that that this idea that I have will be I'm fairly confident, will be successful.

  • I think everybody wants.

  • Well, yep.

  • Absolutely.

  • So Ah, so kind of rapid.

  • That's so let's wrap things up here.

  • Ah, I think we've We've had an hour here.

  • Ah, so any parting words?

  • Rick?

  • Um, no.

  • Okay, there you go.

  • Evil.

  • I know, but I almost just ruin the big surprise.

  • Yes, that's that's not Let's not do that.

  • But we've been violence bands.

  • Exactly.

  • So, Rick, wanna wanna thank you for giving a part of your Saturday to be with us and then, yeah, I wasn't really awesome stuff that you had to show us.

  • So, uh, thank you very much, Chris.

  • Thank you, everyone, for joining us.

  • This is a great time.

  • Yeah, absolutely.

  • And we'll see you next week with another episode of robots weekly.

  • Thanks, everyone.

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