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  • Jakey.

  • Ah!

  • Oh, and now the broadcast live.

  • Wow!

  • All right, chord moments.

  • Hey, and welcome to the very first Robots weekly number one, We Ah, I believe if I'm not mistaken, Dan is actually here with us.

  • Surprise of miracle magics.

  • That is technology.

  • Dan, are you there?

  • His shadow is there.

  • He's waving, so that doesn't see Ah, Committee on mute Dan, Can you talk?

  • No.

  • We have not allowed him to talk right now, Dan.

  • Oh, I muted you.

  • Okay, so I was muted and I had to go.

  • And Monday I always just yelling Never.

  • Hey, everybody.

  • So we are streaming to the Internet, which is kind of crazy.

  • Hello, everyone.

  • Thanks for joining us on the very first robots weekly.

  • Now, everything should go smoothly and planned and calculated is if we actually had this all organized.

  • Um, hopefully, we're gonna get out of here in about 30 minutes.

  • So bear with us.

  • We do have Danish all on, and he is head of the International Note Bots Day.

  • If you've not heard of international no buts day, Um, it's a little competition, little bit of hackathon, a little bit of enjoyment, that sort of spawned from two different things.

  • But I'm the lead, Daniel.

  • Take it from there.

  • Basically, the whole goal is to get people who are generally speaking software developers in interested and excited about robots and robot building and hardware hacking and stuff of that nature.

  • So, uh, Daniel doing?

  • Uh, wait.

  • We should introduce each other.

  • Okay?

  • Yeah.

  • Yeah.

  • Good idea.

  • It is.

  • Exactly.

  • You have a gradual Chris Williams.

  • Yeah, I know.

  • Is what?

  • Rocket doing hiding under no jazz.

  • Come on.

  • Beer, Tess And robots come And, uh, these fun of, uh, really the comp revolution that the godfather of note comes.

  • And, um, you know, a lot of great conferences CSS comped on has really been a selfless individual who has tried to make developers lives better.

  • So you're gonna make me cry.

  • More importantly, we also have with us Matthew pod, Masaki.

  • Uh, Matthew works in Microsoft, does all sorts of cool stuff.

  • Daniel blew a lot of smoke up your butt about me, but, um, a whole bunch uh, Matthew, actually one of the key people responsible for bringing for better for worse.

  • You can stand on whichever side you want.

  • Ah, lot of the Windows support and Windows underpinnings.

  • And, uh, I love that that marks of Windows and myself team have provided to the know Js team.

  • Um, anything else would say, Matt, I don't know what I'm allowed to say about your not allowed.

  • He's a man of misery now.

  • I I work a lot with the open source communities within within Microsoft helping evangelize open source working Ah, in and around the M s open tech.

  • Uh, group is what was Ah, directive extensions group.

  • Where?

  • Ah, where I've been, uh, developing us developing software for ages.

  • So other than that, now I'm just ah, rocking in here.

  • Ah, beer Js and loving every minute of it.

  • Nice.

  • And now we get to our actual guests.

  • Now, brags a maior, we've gotta get to know each other.

  • All right, but just closed.

  • Thanks everyone for watching.

  • It's been fantastic Exam.

  • We have Daniel Shaw, who has used work of boxer now works.

  • Where do you work now?

  • So you bring a class does Joe?

  • I run the merry band of brothers at, uh, the note firm and, uh, in my spare time D'oh!

  • Fun things develop.

  • Everything's mostly And you also ran, which is quite pertinent to this.

  • The San Francisco hardware hack day.

  • Yes.

  • Organized it and ran it, and it was very successful.

  • Donna, do not lead us off from there.

  • Yeah, I'll tell you the story.

  • Uh, Harbor acting.

  • So, um, last year in December, Uhm you know myself like a lot of other sort of noti people.

  • Uh, we're running around doing a lot of conferences, and there are a lot of hackathons San Francisco every weekend there, like five hackathons on there.

  • A lot of competitions.

  • But what I really wanted waas a way thio no justification reason together and hang out with people.

  • But without creating, like, another obligation, another need for, you know, to reach out to a friend and say, Hey, can you can you give a top?

  • And you have that toppy?

  • Ah, lot of extra work, uh, wanted something really lightweight and, you know, hardware seemed like a great way to do that.

  • And, you know, in in the summer, prior to that, I'd, uh I'd run the internship.

  • It boxer, we had, um, poor engineers.

  • Two of them were 19 year olds.

  • And so the program was called the Summer of note we want to know dumped.

  • And, you know, we ran into a situation with those guys where they were kind of excluded from the, um, from the event because they couldn't get into bars being 19 year olds.

  • They could give a shit about drinking, but, you know, they they just wanted to go out and get out with the other engineers.

  • Um, so again, this is, like, another positive thing.

  • That, plus outcome, organizing event like this, those open everybody and accessible to everybody.

  • So, uh, that was lots of fun we had over the arc of two days.

  • Um, about 50 people come, and it was it was a fairly big event.

  • Box has a really beautiful space.

  • Um, and we had no crazy things.

  • Like there's a soup be controlled by our green.

  • Oh.

  • Um, there, Max Ogden was doing coffee roasting.

  • Ah, uh uh.

  • Control.

  • Copy, Rosie and doing temperature gauge.

  • Um, you lie temp are came and, uh uh, brought, like, his pocket version of his CNC, which fits in a small suitcase not far from bucket.

  • But you brought that up with him.

  • Um, and, um, forced Normal had a copters.

  • The weeded Smilla.

  • Lot of traditional harbor stuff.

  • And then, you know, we added in three D printing, um, Ryan, uh, last name from joint, um, brought us ah, first end maker baht and was putting out stuff.

  • Um, you know, my kids were there, just just hung out and and, you know, ah, enjoying the the entire weekend.

  • It was just a really nice time.

  • And, you know, there was, uh, there was there were no surprises.

  • There was no grand scheme of things.

  • It was just, you know, hacking, because that's fun.

  • And we did sort of get together collectively.

  • Share what?

  • We, uh, all bills at the end of, uh, of the weekend.

  • So that was fun.

  • Like the gratification of geeking out and sharing with your friends.

  • Um, what you created A That's that's most of what it boils down to your soul.

  • So, you know, I really tried to focus on on that part of it rather than, um, yeah, your winner.

  • Yeah.

  • We'll go whiffle ball with it like everybody is a winner, but, like, there's no there's no winner.

  • It was just like you got.

  • Uh um, but you learn, so, yeah.

  • I mean, you'll learn something?

  • It was actually interesting reading something from the a c.

  • M saying that Ah, us students are entering in hacking competitions anymore because they're not really getting much out of it.

  • Me and united, I I'd rather see Yeah.

  • Just places to go and learn rather than to beat quite honestly, right?

  • Yeah.

  • Did you get the opportunity?

  • Get men toward.

  • You know, we had, uh, cluster people that were more experience with raspberry pies on.

  • So that cluster sort of self organized, uh, you know, had you know someone who worked a lot more with rather find some other people that, um, purchase craft supplies, wantedto experiment with it.

  • So there was, like, baked in mentorship.

  • Yeah.

  • Just because, you know, out of out of sheer interest driven, um, stuff choices, So that was great.

  • Um, yeah, that's awesome.

  • Yeah.

  • So that was lots of fun.

  • Um, I, you know, hope to organize one a lot earlier.

  • Um, but you know that it didn't work out.

  • Uh, I was gonna do another one.

  • Maybe in the spring, but it didn't work out.

  • Um, and the confluence of events happened around Jack Scott won a bunch of people.

  • Their ping man said, Hey, when we're gonna do, uh, you know Harvard Happy again.

  • Again, Uh, on And Chris in kind of the closing statements.

  • Yeah, it's all your fault.

  • Uh, Kristen, this closing statements, uh, I guess it was kind of a community discussion.

  • A but ended up being like everybody gang up and ask Chris God questions So Chris can turn the tables at the end of jazz cough and asked what people want it and someone has.

  • How can we, um how can we bring the jazz comp experience and the best jazz calm community experience back to where we are locally.

  • And, um, you know, I e picked a date far enough out in the future to dio an event in San Francisco.

  • Uh, and you know, just pretty much spot.

  • All right, let's let's d'oh put it out there and see if it sticks on and see if anyone else is in doing this and, uh, just exploded, didn't it?

  • Yeah, it was fantastic.

  • I i used to get Repo Thio thio encourage people doing so I wouldn't be the gating factor of it, right.

  • Oh, you know, if you're gonna add an event you have used self organized.

  • You You had your information at it?

  • Uh, some people's contributors, you know, who helped, uh, then take those comfort contributions.

  • Make sure that the pull requests got released rapidly.

  • And now I think where I think we're close to 20 I think we're 18.

  • 19.

  • I think it might be it.

  • Ah, At 20 places around the world, four different continents Australia, North America, South America, Europe.

  • Um, wanting that Antarctica still alright out there listening even if it's just one todo or, uh, go or woman.

  • D'oh cooling ever something was a single single event that you ran on.

  • Then you were able to make it a district highly distributed, right?

  • Right now we're all where in the world, if somebody's watching, they could go to this city or one of these cities and and participated in it.

  • Do you You want to do a quick rundown of all of the cities I think you guys have.

  • So, uh, Medellin, Colombia started in South America.

  • Uh uh, San Francisco.

  • It's another another.

  • Go South Bay.

  • She said go south.

  • Uh, cool thing that came out of this is like it's gone hyperlocal So there's there.

  • South Bay, uh, in San Francisco there, like five in the D C.

  • Metro area.

  • Wow.

  • Yeah, right.

  • This there's Northern Virginia.

  • There's, uh, Washington D C um, so wait, she people home communities serving their their you know, their localities like, uh, Austin, Texas.

  • Barcelona, uh, Bogota on, um, Columbia, Denver, Colorado, Kansas City, Kansas.

  • Um ah.

  • Canada.

  • Kelowna B C.

  • Canada.

  • Ah, Vegas London.

  • Um, yes, we have two representing in Colombia.

  • It's so awesome.

  • That is awesome America, Right?

  • Um, New York, uh, Sydney, Australia.

  • There's a group in the Tri City so out and yet territory, they're going toe to organize the event.

  • Um, and I believe there's a t least one or two more that they are almost there with having event.

  • That's enough.

  • So but actually, one of the things that really excited me was the appearance of, uh, you know, the Northern Virginia's from the D.

  • C.

  • Is the South Bay and the San Francisco, um, that, you know, first, I was like, Oh, you know, that's gonna reduce the impact of San Francisco.

  • Uh, maybe I should should try to do something about that, but actually, that's totally wrong.

  • because the end objective is to get these local communities together and realistically, South Bay in San Francisco, you know that the people that live and work in those environments cross pollinate blessing?

  • You think?

  • Um, so I occasional run down, you go out of my way to go down in the South Bay.

  • I'm not down there that off, um, and more likely to go toe to San Francisco things And, like, lives with the, uh, incidents that I know down in, uh, in the south.

  • It So if if that group can really serve its local community and, you know, get though that that group of people together as a regular thing, then, uh, you know, mission accomplished health.

  • Mr.

  • Graham was already, you know, ah far exceeded anything that I, uh, that I hope to two ah, accomplish with the event.

  • And, uh, you know, the fact that so many people are excited and contributing and participating like, uh, my my level of organizing this has been fairly minimal, Like everyone else is taking the idea and run with it.

  • And, you know, it is, um, as much you know, everybody else who's participating a cz.

  • What I've contributed.

  • Yeah, pretty much.

  • Everyone's an owner and everyone contributes.

  • It's it's pretty.

  • Seems pretty organic that way and decentralized.

  • I mean, that's gonna be the awesome part.

  • Is seeing what comes out of this, right?

  • So one of things I often hear because I sort of stand in an odd position where as a conference organizer, especially of the JavaScript and node and robots as well, most people will come to me and they ask, like What do you think about this is It's not horrible for the conference and one of things that even in your description of it, I always viewed it as, Ah, it's democratizing the social structures that we put into play.

  • I'm historically speaking conferences on, and I'm gonna go with pre Js count because that's a different in my mind.

  • A different world and hostess counts, and that's not because just come special, but it just cause of my awareness of it.

  • Um, previous calm.

  • Everything was very monolithic and there were big conferences.

  • We all know the large media publishing company that put on big conferences in the in the JavaScript space.

  • It was Ajax experience.

  • Um, they were big, big conferences, and you had to pay a good sum of money to get there.

  • And only this special could get there on one of the things that I've tried to, uh, convey into thio hope to bring about its sort of that, uh, you know, everyone can start their own conference, and that actually makes the ecos fear and the world a lot better for that.

  • It's ah, it's it increases the dialogue, right?

  • Exactly.

  • And I think this is perfect for because there's little to no barrier to entry.

  • Right.

  • And, uh, I mean, most of the ones that you have attending is there.

  • What's the split on?

  • Like if someone if I, Chris Williams, wanted to attend a note Bots day, where would I go?

  • What would I bring with me?

  • Um, so I would bring s o go to your most local one s o the closest one around you If there is no look one, uh, reach out.

  • And I bet I could help you find someone local.

  • Who's, uh, can, uh, drum up some interest with you?

  • Um, but, you know, here in San Francisco, come to San Francisco on, uh, go to go to your local, uh, one and choose something that you're excited about.

  • So if your ass isn't like thinking back about Max and the coffee, like if you're doing something with coffee, like dick, take a passing project and you bring something cool like that, um, you know, run down the radio sack and, you know, pick up.

  • Ah, robot are like that.

  • Um you know, uh, someone that you're excited about sharing Bring that.

  • I incurred gently encouraged a B Y o h.

  • Style thing.

  • So bring around harbor.

  • Ah, lot of people have, um, like the crazy flies.

  • I know four verses bringing crazy fly to San Francisco one, uh, and CJ down in South Bay has it as a crazy flat.

  • Um, whatever.

  • Whatever you find, the most engaging is you know what?

  • You're gonna add the most to the event, because that's that's what you're passionate about.

  • Um, you know, you're excited.

  • I'm hearing myself again.

  • Sorry, e might have been me.

  • I was checking and see how this worked.

  • Uh, had this technology thing disaster do.

  • Let's fire all the technical, right.

  • So yeah, in, like, if is you, uh, especially the way that the San Francisco events organized.

  • Uh, you know, if if you can't possibly bring something that that its hardware, I put down both, uh, you'll be wild B bring your own beverage or bring your own food, like bring something.

  • Bring an idea, even if you don't have any words and the other one and you mentioned lightly on this, But bring your Children.

  • Bring, uh, this is a great I I mean, I think everyone on the line here can attest to the fact that when you get your hands dirty and sometimes burn from the sauder when you're creating real physical objects, there is little to no better Bridgepoint into development than that Hardware hacking that hardware creation state.

  • There's something magical about creating hardware.

  • Yeah, so, yeah, bring don't forget people.

  • B y o p p s for more people with them.

  • Exactly.

  • Although we're pushing 100 people at that.

  • Sam is this Guys have maybe not where you bring 10 people.

  • Uh, send him to the south Bay one, send him to the south.

  • So, um, yeah, I was just over with Steve Gill.

  • Adobe a space.

  • And, uh uh, we moved moved into their larger atrium space.

  • And that also has a back patio where we could have, you know, sauntering stuff like that, You bald, desolated area.

  • Um, it should be a really nice event.

  • Some benches on the side, like having cozy space is like your your coconut thinking, unpacking all day.

  • Like having some nice, little cozy areas that you can kind of break out into, Uh, is actually pretty nice.

  • And in terms of the bio h if a lot of people don't necessarily know what to get the get have your l a and we'll post that later has descriptions on like, Hey, here's a start.

  • Um, I know that some of the organizers are all the organisers have access to discount codes.

  • Uh, do you want to give a list of the companies that were awesome Enoughto help out?

  • No.

  • Yeah.

  • Ah, big outs.

  • Big set out Thio.

  • Um, Mike Ah, the organizer from Denver for setting up a 20% this car from spark fun.

  • Um, that's been ah, uh, really amazing.

  • Uh, 80 fruit also has a, uh, a big discount.

  • Um, the we can't publish straight.

  • That's right.

  • We'll talk about your code.

  • Uh, but thanks to them for helping out and spark funds is limited.

  • Right?

  • And then a efforts goes up until the day off.

  • So if you haven't gotten your stuff yet, you can you still have the availability to take advantage of those, right?

  • And then there was that one more obscure site that I forget the name of Chris.

  • Uh, Lulu Lulu.

  • Lulu.

  • Yeah.

  • They haven't time for the code yet, but, um okay, but we help they Well, they just need to know how many?

  • Um, yeah, there's I mean, if you're organizing or your attending one of these get in touch with Daniel.

  • Were one of us and anyone on the No.

  • The node bots will be ableto given that there's a much better technologically organized node bots day organization meeting.

  • That happens Sundays, right?

  • Every Sunday.

  • And, uh, we'll have another one, uh, 6:30 p.m. The Pacific time.

  • Uh, this Sunday will be probably our last one.

  • We might, uh, might do something the day before if we feel like there's ah need, um, we're, uh So we have a surprise.

  • It also related to that guy.

  • Ah.

  • Uh, so, um you know, I I I mentioned in the original harbor Act that I tried not to, you know, throw my friends on the bus and and and create more work.

  • But, uh, Chris's is generously volunteered to ah, share a bit of, you know, his background in the background philosophy around.

  • Why, no bots are so meaningful and wipes and meaningful to him.

  • Like why, um, you know, he's interested in sharing that.

  • So, uh, we're gonna have, ah, recorded bit of, like, do you know, easing?

  • Ah, from Chris that, um, all organizer is gonna have the option to tiu tiu show.

  • And it could be horrible.

  • So they also have the option to not show it.

  • So there's a spread on that.

  • Exactly.

  • I wouldn't be too offended if you didn't show me.

  • I would, actually, uh, Andrew had a question he wants.

  • Noah is nobody's day.

  • Likely to become a regular thing in the future is ah, 7 27 a day that will live in perpetuity in perpetuity.

  • Uh, moves.

  • So, yeah.

  • 7 27 Like, it's not always gonna be a Saturday.

  • Um, is no.

  • But stay.

  • We could like that's that's thinking perhaps too far in advance.

  • And, uh, it is over thing people need to know.

  • Are they, uh, next next year at, uh ah, on the 27th of July?

  • Um, maybe maybe, uh, yeah.

  • I think it might, uh, shift Thio Saturday in July.

  • But I would love thio, uh, organize this again on duh.

  • But even more than that, I think that there's no if if this is good, not just become an annual thing, But if it were to become a regular community thing along glasses, maybe a monthly beard asked if a small group of of the the most interested individuals and, uh um in the local community want thio sort of organized together and and have regular robot events, Uh, maybe you reach out to the local to your local hacking space and say, Could you could come by, um, one day, a month and in the evenings and I'll work on some stuff.

  • Uh, that would be the moment that you better like.

  • It becomes, you know, a a local thing.

  • The continues even more important than than having an annual thing.

  • Um, you know that that would be awesome.

  • Yep.

  • Growing organically.

  • Exactly.

  • Take it, own it and run with it.

  • on.

  • Do you have fun?

  • Awesome.

  • Well, I think, uh, I think we're almost out of time.

  • Is there anything you want to wrap up with?

  • So it's probably not too late to organize something small.

  • Uh, if you want to participate in nobody's day Ah, you know, you can get if you don't have no time or resources to go out.

  • And, um, you go to one of the dedicated service that you can get, uh, artery knows now at your local radio shack.

  • Eso even coming into the week of your own, you know, go to reassure you can go to Amazon and get a lot of these things.

  • Um, you know, grabbing our Gino and, you know, take advantage of note bots Day Thio.

  • You know, scratch that itch and and play with her as rape.

  • I play with the aid of fruit.

  • Uh, cliques are the Arduino, and, uh um, you have some fun.

  • And I'm sure we'll also share Christina with the rest of world, so you'll be ableto watch that you know.

  • Ah, you and I want you.

  • Don't watch it.

  • I dare you kind of One more thing is do you kind of see a convergence happening kind of between the note copter communities and the note bots Community more towards a general hacking community, or is it likely just remain separate?

  • Yes.

  • Requested.

  • Um, I would like it to be one thing, and I don't really care about what the brand or moniker is.

  • Um, but yeah, there has been a really reason why copters and robots don't really gel in the same space now because copters are this.

  • No, this very what's all that metal thing that's going on, like if you're you're there sauntering and that you have a doctor going, it's very distracting.

  • Um, and, uh, then there they're logistically different.

  • There's there's a lot of, you know, similar, similar technical approaches.

  • They go together.

  • Um, I think as, uh, we moved me begin to perhaps move away from, uh, the full size they are drones to the larger.

  • Does this smaller things?

  • Uh, solar machines and smaller copters seemed toe be a better fit for this base Is so, um, last year we had the, uh, you know, standard helicopter in the mix, and that wasn't destructive at all.

  • Even though that was like sitting on the table uh, and you know, the crazy flies seem like a little bit better fit.

  • Um, and yeah, that we had an air grown last year at Harvard Hack weekend, and, uh, no one touched it like they're just different.

  • Different vibe to flow.

  • Um, and people were more into doing that.

  • Um, about the hacking.

  • Well, it's intimidating in that you can crash into something really hard, like everyone is like, you know, they're kind of quietly, you're exactly there's also, I would say, if I may, the different There's a differentiator there between getting hands dirty, remaining a programmer.

  • Um, because nobody's you have to start or or at least hot glue stuff together.

  • You're risking.

  • You start with zero.

  • Um, and at a base level, you have to build step index zero before you go to index one.

  • Before you can even start programming to control it versus the node copter, which the huge benefit of note copter.

  • The first event every subsequent of an after that has been that the time to from like here's a box with a copter in it to flying it with code is, uh, the fox is out of the box experience exam.

  • I don't see them.

  • Is, uh, antagonistic?

  • I see them almost as two separate discreet activities.

  • Yeah.

  • Is that there's nothing wrong with them being separate that they're still separate because they're logistically different.

  • Yeah, not because they're philosophically incompatible.

  • Any other questions?

  • Ah, if you if you have a question throat in the chat room.

  • Otherwise, Ah, I think we're at the 30 minute mark and want to say thank you very much.

  • Uh, gonna pleasure, uh, having the chat and, uh, yeah, we'll probably be back here next week.

  • About same time, hopefully less technical difficulties.

  • They promise anything, though, and there's the organizer meeting Sunday.

  • Check your time Zone.

  • What time is it?

  • Pacific?

  • Uh, 9:30 p.m. Eastern 6:30 p.m. Pacific.

  • There we go.

  • Um, that gives you what, And you can figure out your own time zone from there.

  • And, uh, no eyes.

  • Uh, if you get a chance, go out.

  • Go do something fun.

  • We have Matt and I are We're organizing, along with Laura.

  • We're gonna try to organize robots comfort.

  • If you haven't seen the witness, check into robots comp dot com and otherwise we will see you next week.

  • See everybody.

  • Thank you.

  • Thanks.

  • Thanks.

Jakey.

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