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  • AMAH EDOH: How is Africa made to mean?

  • How has it been made to mean, and what is associated

  • with this idea of Africa?

  • I mean, it's weird to talk about it as this one place,

  • but that's exactly the point.

  • How is it that we've come to talk about Africa

  • as a thing, a place in the world, when in fact, it

  • includes over 50 countries, and thousands of languages,

  • and millions of people, right?

  • SARAH HANSEN: Today on the podcast, a conversation

  • about teaching a categorically misunderstood concept, Africa.

  • Our guest today found inspiration

  • for bold new ways of teaching through her own experiences

  • as a student.

  • She recognized throughout her education

  • the ability for teachers to empower or inhibit

  • their students.

  • AMAH EDOH: What's made the biggest difference for me

  • in the classroom as a student has

  • been instructors who made me feel

  • like I had something to offer.

  • And the lack of that does a lot of damage, right?

  • When you're having instructors who

  • make you feel like you have nothing to offer,

  • that's actually damaging.

  • It's not just neutral.

  • It's damaging.

  • So it's really important for me to sort

  • of valorize students' voices and to show them

  • that they're doing it.

  • SARAH HANSEN: Welcome to Chalk Radio,

  • a podcast about inspired teaching at MIT.

  • I'm your host Sarah Hansen from MIT OpenCourseWare.

  • In this episode, I take you with me

  • to meet Amah Edoh, an Assistant Professor of African Studies

  • at MIT.

  • Professor Edoh's research centers

  • around the complex array of cultures, traditions, nations,

  • and ideas known as Africa, and how Africa as a concept

  • is produced through material practices,

  • things like music, ritual, performance, and dress.

  • We'll learn how she engages students

  • in unpacking the concept of Africa

  • through the very creative practices that make it.

  • So what does it look like to challenge

  • the meaning we've prescribed to a place as rich and diverse

  • as Africa?

  • We'll pick up our conversation with Professor Edoh's

  • explanation.

  • AMAH EDOH: You know, we're used to speaking of Africa

  • as a place--

  • and not just any place, but a place

  • that's burdened with a lot of ideas and values

  • that historically have been negative, to put it simply.

  • And so what my research and my teaching centers on

  • is about interrogating that.

  • So first, making visible the ways that Africa

  • is made to mean, so that's what I mean with Africa

  • as a category of thought.

  • To understand that Africa means more than just

  • this geographical space.

  • It's also all these countries and all

  • this very complicated history.

  • But then to see the ways that this valence

  • that "Africa," quote, unquote, has,

  • the way that that plays out in all aspects of life, really.

  • So broadly speaking, it's like the question

  • of thinking about Africa as category of thought

  • is understanding the politics that are involved in engaging

  • with the continent in an intellectual manner,

  • politically, and so on.

  • In this course, we use creative practices-- so the arts,

  • popular culture--

  • as a way in for two reasons.

  • One, because there's a way that, you know,

  • I'm not crazy about the term "popular culture"

  • because it's a way that it seems to devalue it,

  • and it's just kind of fun.

  • Yet, it animates so much of our daily experiences,

  • no matter who you are and no matter

  • where you are in the world.

  • So on one hand, the purpose or goal of using this as a way

  • into asking these more kind of theoretical and philosophical

  • questions about Africa as a category of thought

  • is to recognize that these everyday practices are actually

  • extremely rich and just as political

  • as any other form of engagement.

  • But then more specifically to Africa

  • is the fact that right now, Africa

  • is sort of having this moment where its signification is

  • appearing to shift.

  • Part of it is understanding whether it's actually shifting.

  • But where all the stories we had about the continent

  • used to be about war, and disease, and famine,

  • and dysfunction, simply speaking,

  • now, there is also another discourse where Africa's hot.

  • Africa is sort of the future.

  • Africa is where all of these new possibilities are playing out.

  • So whether it's within the business realm

  • or it's within the arts, it's this idea

  • that Africa is the last frontier.

  • So there is a way that Africa's got a new prominence

  • on the global stage, and that a lot of that

  • is playing out in the realm of what

  • I call creative practice, so the arts and popular culture.

  • And that's why I thought that it would be a particularly

  • good angle to take in addressing these sort of loftier

  • questions, and seeing the ways that they play out

  • in the day-to-day.

  • And also through beautiful and pleasant objects,

  • and pleasant things to engage with, things that are moving,

  • and that are inspiring, which I think

  • opens us up to thinking and to processing differently when

  • we're moved in this other way.

  • SARAH HANSEN: It makes me wonder how

  • this specific case of looking at Africa as a category of thought

  • and looking at creative practices,

  • did it open for students new ways of seeing

  • the world in general?

  • Does this kind of teaching offer new pathways

  • for critical thinking that's applicable in many fields?

  • AMAH EDOH: I'd hope so.

  • I mean, my god, like, that's our dream as educators, right?

  • That whatever we do in the classroom in this very limited

  • setting or this limited scale manifests for our students

  • so that they're able to take it into their experiences way

  • beyond the classroom and beyond the specific topic

  • of the course.

  • When I think about the students that I

  • had in the class last year, it was about 12 students,

  • and about half of them were African, so Africans

  • of different variety.

  • So Africans from the continent, Africans who were

  • first-generation Americans.

  • And then the other half were American

  • of varying ethnicities.

  • And I would say that for all of them--

  • well, certainly for my African students,

  • it was a way that they, I think it's safe to say

  • were there because they were interested in engaging

  • with this part of their experience

  • in a different realm, to actually study it

  • in the classroom instead of it just being kind of what they're

  • immersed in their day-to-day lives

  • when they're back home, and so on.

  • And for the non-African students, some of them

  • were going to be working in Africa during the summer,

  • or had just come back from being on the continent,

  • and just wanted to kind of learn more generally

  • about the continent.

  • So to what extent did being in the class

  • broaden their perspectives or kind of give them

  • tools that they could use beyond this specific topic

  • after the class?

  • I think the class might have helped them get language

  • to articulate some of these questions

  • about power, essentially.

  • And if not always to find answers,

  • to at least be able to notice patterns

  • and sort of describe what they're seeing.

  • So often, we have a feeling that something's not right,

  • or that there's something going on here,

  • but we don't quite have the language for it.

  • And I think that that's what a class like this aims to do

  • is to give students the language to articulate

  • these things that they might be picking up

  • on in different ways.

  • [MUSIC PLAYING]

  • SARAH HANSEN: So what does it look like to empower students

  • to follow a feeling, to develop the language to negotiate

  • that feeling into theory?

  • AMAH EDOH: So we met once a week and we focused each session

  • on a different form of cultural production,

  • or a different theme.

  • So we had performance.

  • And then within performance, we had performance as dress,

  • and then we had literature, and we had film,

  • and we had science and technology.

  • And so for each unit, new questions came up.

  • But the thread that cut across them

  • was the same, which was a question of,

  • how is Africa being made to mean in the world,

  • and how are African cultural producers engaging

  • in that process of making Africa to mean through their practice?

  • And, of course, and the questions

  • that come up that are, like, what

  • are the specific issues that arise with this particular form

  • of cultural production, right?

  • So for theater, what does it mean, for instance,

  • to produce a play for an audience in Nigeria

  • to can perform that play in Cambridge, Massachusetts?

  • What are the politics of that?

  • What are the questions that come up

  • in carrying this object from one space into the next?

  • The goal was to both reflect through each of these cases

  • this underlying question that the course was after,

  • but then to show the nuances or the specificities that

  • apply to each particular form of creative production.

  • And then ultimately to say, what do we

  • gain by juxtaposing these different things?

  • What can we learn about ideas of technological innovation

  • in or for the continent by looking at them

  • alongside the production of ethnographic portraits

  • in the 19th century in South Africa, for instance?

  • Is there a way that these two cases

  • can elucidate one another?

  • And I think yes.

  • I mean, there is a reason that I did it that way.

  • But yeah, and I think that there was also another agenda

  • behind it is that being at MIT in particular, where we tend

  • to fetishize technology and consider it sometimes

  • in the realm outside of other material

  • practices, other ways of knowing,

  • one of my personal missions is to show that it's no different.

  • They're just different.

  • They're all objects.

  • They're all ways of doing.

  • They're always of knowing, right?

  • So whether we're talking about plant healing

  • or developing the next nano whatever,

  • we can think about these things next to each other,

  • no matter where they're happening.

  • And so I think the ways that case studies are

  • useful is that they allow you to both kind of dig

  • deep with that particular situation,

  • bring questions to the fore, and then next time, kind of

  • consider the ways that those questions can apply,

  • or when new questions arise when you

  • look at a different situation.

  • SARAH HANSEN: You mentioned performance.

  • And could you speak a little bit about how

  • students attended performances out

  • in the world as part of this course?

  • AMAH EDOH: Yeah.

  • So that kind of has to happen serendipitously.

  • It just so happened to be that at the time

  • that I was teaching this class, this show came, was--

  • I don't even remember how I found out about it.

  • I think from a mailing list or a friend told me.

  • I don't know, but this play was coming to Harvard.

  • And similarly, that Alain Gomis was going

  • to be coming to Harvard also.

  • And so in the case of Alain Gomis,

  • I had just seen his film at a conference a few months before,

  • one of his films, and absolutely adored it,

  • and so I'd wanted to teach it.

  • And it was an amazing opportunity to have them here,

  • because he would also be speaking about the film.

  • And so in both cases, it was an opportunity.

  • I saw these outings as an opportunity for students

  • to engage with these materials sort of in a more social way.

  • So it's one thing to be in your room

  • and to just watch a film on your laptop.

  • It's a different thing to be in an auditorium

  • with various kinds of people to kind of pick up

  • on the energy that's around you, how other people around you

  • are responding to different parts of the film, right?

  • That's part of the experience also.

  • Not to mention that to hear the filmmaker tell you

  • what they were thinking when they created this thing,

  • and how other audiences responded to it, and so on.

  • And then, of course, just the experience of leaving MIT,

  • I think, is really useful.

  • Like, I remember when I was an undergrad, Harvard seemed far.

  • [LAUGHTER]

  • It's really not.

  • And so I think part of our duty as educators also

  • is to help broaden our students' horizons,

  • both in the classroom, but also by encouraging them to just

  • go explore a little bit beyond campus.

  • SARAH HANSEN: Right.

  • Professor Edoh also has a unique way

  • of broadening students' horizons within the classroom

  • as well by reshaping their relationship

  • with academic texts, all part of an intentional process

  • to eradicate the barrier placed between academic work and life.

  • AMAH EDOH: So when I-- you know, I

  • was a student for a very long time.

  • [LAUGHTER]

  • And I was very frequently frustrated by the fact

  • that academic texts often feel like they're

  • written to not be understood.

  • SARAH HANSEN: Right.

  • AMAH EDOH: And this made me really angry,

  • because when I was in grad school for my PhD,

  • I thought, OK, I've been in school for many years.

  • How is it that this still makes no sense, right?

  • Like, if it makes no sense to me, like,

  • what are we doing here?

  • What is the point of the academic enterprise

  • if we produce work that can't be understood?

  • And so this has been a gripe of mine for a very long time.

  • And it was all the more frustrating

  • when there was no space to express that, right?

  • Because I think the danger when you're a student oftentimes,

  • especially at elite institutions,

  • is that you internalize.

  • Like, when you don't understand, you

  • think there's something wrong with you, essentially.

  • You're not good enough.

  • You're not smart enough.

  • [BABBLING]

  • When it's a structural issue, and it's actually

  • on the readers-- on the writers to write better work,

  • write more clearly.

  • So then that requires, I think, an infrastructure

  • to support students in processing

  • this often opaque work.

  • And to me, that's how I was thinking about the reading

  • responses.

  • So as a way to just when you're forced to sit down and write

  • something about what you wrote, even if it's just like,

  • I don't understand it.

  • These are all the questions that are coming up for me.

  • It already pushes you along, like,

  • kind of your understanding for yourself,

  • and then also gives me as the instructor a way

  • to know where you're at and what I need to bring

  • in the classroom discussion.

  • So what I asked students to do was

  • to try to summarize the key points of the argument,

  • and then they were free to take it

  • in at any number of directions.

  • They could either relate it to other work

  • that we've read in class.

  • They could relate it to stuff in the news

  • that they're seeing around it,

  • seeing around them, and kind of use

  • what was coming up in the readings as a way

  • to make sense of these things they

  • were observing around them.

  • Or kind of relate it to their personal experience, something

  • going on in their own lives.

  • And what I wanted to do there was, again,

  • to show that what we do in the classroom is not separate.

  • Academic work isn't separate from life, right?

  • And it's not something that's only accessible to some people,

  • right?

  • We are always theorizing.

  • Making sense of our experience is about theorizing.

  • And so to offer possibilities for students

  • to make these links between what they're reading for school

  • and what they're experiencing in the world

  • around them, if we can do that, I

  • think we're in great shape as educators.

  • I really love being able to point to something that they've

  • said and make them argue it, right?

  • Or in presenting my lessons, if I can say, yeah,

  • as you brought up in your paper, this thing

  • is going on in the reading.

  • That's exactly right.

  • And we also see-- so to show that, one, I'm

  • taking their work seriously.

  • SARAH HANSEN: Right.

  • AMAH EDOH: And also, that they have something to offer.

  • To me, what's made the biggest difference for me

  • in the classroom as a student has

  • been instructors who made me feel

  • like I had something to offer.

  • And the lack of that does a lot of damage, right?

  • When you're having instructors who

  • make you feel like you have nothing to offer,

  • that's actually damaging.

  • It's not just neutral.

  • It's damaging.

  • So it's really important for me to sort

  • of valorize students' voices and to show them

  • that they're doing it.

  • [MUSIC PLAYING]

  • SARAH HANSEN: Part of why we wanted

  • to profile Professor Edoh's teaching of her Global Africa

  • Class was her willingness to try things

  • in the classroom that were new to her,

  • such as inviting students to participate

  • in creative production.

  • This approach culminated in a final project

  • assignment that, to say the least, exceeded expectations.

  • In the final project assignment, students

  • were asked to examine how Africa's place in the world

  • is negotiated through creative production.

  • What kind of challenges did students take on in this work?

  • AMAH EDOH: My poor students.

  • I say my poor students because this was an experiment.

  • I thought it'd be really cool.

  • I mean, it seemed like the right thing in the course

  • where we're looking at people who are making creative work,

  • doing creative work in different arenas.

  • It seemed like the right way to culminate

  • to ask students to do the same themselves.

  • SARAH HANSEN: Yeah.

  • AMAH EDOH: And yeah, I had no idea how it would turn out,

  • because I didn't know what they were bringing to the table,

  • what particular skills they had, like creative skills.

  • But I want to believe--

  • this is something I try to enact in my own life--

  • that we all have creative skills.

  • And so whatever you have, we can do something with it.

  • And bless them, because they were game for the experiment,

  • because I hadn't done this before.

  • I didn't know how it was going to go.

  • But I asked them to pick a topic that they were interested in,

  • either something we'd already talked about in class

  • that they wanted to take father, or another topic altogether.

  • And the key was to use this object, this thing that they

  • would make as a way to think through these questions

  • about Africa's place in the world.

  • It's quite broad.

  • But I was so happy with the things they came up with.

  • It was wonderful.

  • It was so fun.

  • We had anything from, like, there was one student who

  • was interested in plants.

  • And she picked this plant, one of these--

  • I think it's like the ficus plant.

  • It's some plant that's really sexy right now in, like,

  • the interior decorating world.

  • And it's a plant that grows on the side of the street in West

  • Africa, and so on.

  • And so she did this cool project or she took the plant

  • and looked at the different ways that it

  • is made to mean as a kind of luxury decoration item,

  • versus in central Africa, where it's used for--

  • I forget-- like, some part of the tree's use for bark cloth.

  • And so from there, you could talk

  • about the circulation of objects and the way

  • that value gets articulated, and so on.

  • Or other students who wanted to talk about the way

  • that tradition-- that's kind of, yeah,

  • related-- the way that tradition gets articulated.

  • And they were interested in looking at wedding ceremonies

  • sort of in the Nigerian-American context, where people are kind

  • of walking across these different cultures, these two

  • different cultural realms.

  • And to consider what you keep of a tradition

  • and what you update.

  • What does it mean to treat women a particular way

  • and men in a particular way?

  • What should you uphold?

  • What should you resist, given when

  • you are a Nigerian-American, and you're

  • kind of beholden to you belong to these different cultures?

  • And so what they did, which I thought was so brilliant,

  • was that they put together a picture book.

  • Because also, one of the classes had talked about these photo

  • novels as a genre of image and storytelling, image production

  • and storytelling.

  • And so they used that format that we talked about

  • in the class and took the theme that they

  • were interested in around the politics of tradition

  • in Igbo weddings.

  • And she wrote a story that featured them

  • grappling with these questions.

  • So it was quite meta, because they told you--

  • they talked about the topic they were interested in,

  • but then they also showed you the questions

  • that it brought up.

  • It wasn't the resolved thing.

  • And it was meant to be circulated,

  • and it was an object that could be used to spur questions,

  • and so on.

  • And so it was fantastic.

  • I so enjoyed them.

  • We had a coffee ceremony in class, like an Ethiopian coffee

  • ceremony, and the sort of questions that brings up about,

  • what does it take to actually enact what the ceremony is

  • supposed to enact when you take it out of Ethiopia

  • and we take it into a dorm room, for instance,

  • and you only have certain implements to use?

  • To what extent does it retain its value, its significance?

  • But it was wonderful to see them start out

  • being like, oh my god, I have no idea what I'm going to do,

  • and then just figuring it out, and coming up

  • with something amazing.

  • SARAH HANSEN: We actually have the example

  • of the wedding conflict book on the OCW website.

  • We've linked to it in the show notes, so

  • be sure to take a look.

  • To close our conversation, I wanted

  • to see what advice Amah has for other educators

  • looking to employ some of her techniques in their classes.

  • What are her strategies for keeping her class engaging,

  • thoughtful, and illuminating?

  • AMAH EDOH: So one key thing is being clear

  • on what the core issue is in the class, right?

  • So what's the core?

  • What's the question that animates this class?

  • And for me, it's useful to kind of know that and have that,

  • because that helps me sort of adjust as needed, right?

  • So to figure out, OK, what do I need?

  • What do I what do I want these students to come away with,

  • no matter what?

  • So that if what I have planned is not taking us there,

  • then I can try something else that might get us there.

  • So being clear on this question-- so

  • for this class, global Africa, creative cultures,

  • the idea was to examine Africa's place in the world

  • as being made visible through different kinds

  • of creative practice.

  • So I structured it according to things

  • that I was familiar with from my work or interested in,

  • and that I wanted to explore more.

  • So that's one way to go about deciding

  • what the different units are going to be, right?

  • So I'm interested in dress, for instance,

  • and so performance as dress was something

  • I was really into doing.

  • So the pieces of the class can be completely different.

  • They can focus on different creative practices.

  • You can spend more than one week on a particular creative

  • practice, right?

  • So the building blocks can be different.

  • And as long as the core question is clear,

  • then you can sort of tailor that to your interests,

  • but then also to what's available.

  • What's cool about the notion of creative practice

  • is that it's very broad.

  • It can be as broad as you want it to be.

  • So it can be restructured any number of ways

  • depending on the resources that are available

  • and the questions that you or your students

  • are interested in.

  • And tied to that is the fact that--

  • someone told me, a colleague told me once that--

  • we were talking.

  • We're both first-year faculty, and we're both

  • talking about how exhausted we were all the time.

  • And she said someone told her that teaching is essentially

  • like stand-up or improv, right?

  • Like, you get up there, and you're on.

  • And it's improv, because you are responding

  • to what your students are giving you,

  • and you have no idea what it's going to be.

  • No matter how well-planned it is,

  • you have no idea where it might end up,

  • and you have to respond.

  • So it's not just that you're there taking it,

  • but based on what you're getting,

  • you have to figure out where to take it

  • in order to come back to conclusions

  • that you think you need to end at, and also

  • be open to that not happening.

  • And when you're new, you just don't know.

  • And when you've been a student, and you've had these professors

  • up front who seemed to know exactly what they're doing what

  • they're talking about, you don't fully

  • appreciate the fact that it's a lot

  • of intuitive and improvisational work.

  • And so you can be surprised at how taxing it is, you know?

  • So at the end of a three-hour class, I mean, I was wasted.

  • You're just so tired because it requires so much energy.

  • So that's something to just kind of be aware of, which also then

  • can inform your preparation.

  • So to know, what you need to do in order

  • to have enough to stock up, to fill up your tank

  • so that you can then do this three-hour improv performance.

  • And generally, the less tightly designed

  • it is, the better things work out.

  • This is what I found and what I've

  • heard other colleagues say, that the days when they were running

  • from meeting to meeting and they didn't quite have enough time

  • to finish their course prep were actually the days where

  • the class went really well, because they

  • had no choice but to be there, and listen to the students,

  • and meet them where they were, and follow

  • that organic progression of the conversation

  • instead of sticking to their script.

  • Yeah.

  • So I think you know the key pieces of advice I would give

  • are kind of one, flexibility, both in the approach

  • to teaching and recognizing the flexibility that you

  • have in designing the course and choosing what you put in it.

  • And tied to this flexibility, this experimental approach

  • to building it and to adjusting it as it goes.

  • And then as a broader kind of teaching philosophy thing, what

  • I said about using the time in the classroom

  • as a time to build our students' confidence,

  • to instill in our students a sense that they know,

  • that they are capable of doing this work,

  • to validate, to affirm, and to use that

  • as a starting point for what it is that we

  • want to impart onto them.

  • But really, to start to kind of undo some of the damage

  • that academic work has done for so many peoples,

  • which is that it's alienating.

  • And so to try to make it less alienating, to say,

  • we can do this, and we know how to do this, and we're learning.

  • And it's OK to not know, because we're in school to learn,

  • right?

  • SARAH HANSEN: Right.

  • AMAH EDOH: We're not supposed to know everything

  • when we come here.

  • To make that as part of the mission

  • beyond both, beyond the content of the class itself,

  • to just say, it's OK to not know,

  • and to not know this particular material.

  • But we know how to learn, and that's what we're here for.

  • [MUSIC PLAYING]

  • SARAH HANSEN: Amah Edoh is an assistant professor

  • of African Studies at MIT.

  • And now, you can follow her work wherever you are in the world.

  • In the show notes, we've posted a link

  • to her faculty page, which includes more information

  • about her research background and scholarly works.

  • As a bonus, we're also giving you

  • a link to the Spotify playlist that one of her students

  • created for the class.

  • It is fantastic.

  • Go take a listen.

  • Also, in our show notes, you'll find a link

  • to Amah's Global Africa Course on MIT OpenCourseWare.

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