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  • Hello.

  • So a couple of you who are out there, maybe you could just send me a quick text and tell me if this is working.

  • Yes.

  • Excellent.

  • Can you hear me Mad, Matt?

  • I work at Mars and Toronto.

  • Can you share your thoughts and why it hasn't worked?

  • Wow, that's a complicated question.

  • Let's get to that a little bit later.

  • You guys can hear me.

  • Excellent.

  • Let's go.

  • So this is what I'm going to do.

  • I want to talk to you first about Patriot.

  • And then I'm going to take some questions that people have said.

  • I've got this new thing called, uh, pigeonhole, and that's enabled people to vote up questions.

  • And then I'm also going to take some of the questions that are on.

  • You know, that air streaming in.

  • So so hopefully that'll work.

  • See if I'm in focus.

  • Not too bad.

  • All right.

  • There we go.

  • Consider the overwhelming success of the patron account of the money raised by rebel.

  • What will you be doing with the contributions?

  • Well, that's great.

  • All right, so I'm going a couple of things to say about that.

  • So the 1st 1 is, you know, I would say a number of people have bean attempt and not an overwhelming number, but a number of people have been attempting to take me to task for the fact that my patron support has Bean.

  • Let's call it overwhelmingly successful.

  • And so I'll tell you how I formulate my response to that.

  • The first is I'm generating almost all of my contact and making it completely publicly accessible.

  • So it's free, right?

  • And so that way I'm bringing, I think, awareness of psychological issues to a very large number of people.

  • And so far, at the moment, my view count on YouTube is up to 13 million.

  • And I did a little bit of calculations last week to try to figure out what the total view count was, Um, for for the cuts of my lectures that have bean appearing on YouTube and then the political material as well.

  • And I think it's upward of 50 million.

  • And so I'm making psychological and political content available to 50 million people and so you know, that seems like a reasonable thing to do now.

  • People who don't agree with what I'm saying my differ, but I think that could be separated from the educational content as well.

  • So and then with regards to the Patriot on subscribers, every single person who's doing that is doing it entirely voluntarily.

  • And I also set up that Patriot account long before any of this political material emerged.

  • So and my sense with the Patriot on viewers and you guys conclude me and if I'm wrong about this, is that there's two things happening, as one is.

  • It enables people who are not very happy about the current political situation in the West to to to contribute to something that might be, at least to some degree, attempting to stem the tide of such things as toxic political correctness.

  • And second, that it enables people to support my endeavors to bring general education to a wider audience.

  • And that seems like a good deal for everyone.

  • And, you know, you might say, Well, it's a particularly good deal for me, and I'm certainly not complaining about what's happening.

  • But I would also point out that it doesn't exactly being a straightforward thing.

  • And so, um, so I guess if anyone else wants to try it, they're more than welcome to now.

  • Having said that, um, I would also say that the real issue here and I think this is the fact that this isn't self evident is also a commentary on the toxicity of our culture at the moment is that it actually isn't the issue.

  • The issue isn't really how much money you have.

  • I think that that's a resentful and relatively vicious way of judging someone else.

  • I think the issue is what you do with the money when you have it.

  • And, you know, um, I'm not a particularly hedonistic person and I'm not 25 years old, You know, I'm 55 years old and I'm going to be a grandfather in a couple of months.

  • You know, Thank God for that.

  • And what I want to do with that money is to do the best things I can possibly think of to do with it.

  • And one of the things I'm thinking about.

  • I started this biblical Siri's and a lot of that's help thankful, thanks to you guys on Patri on, because that enabled me to generate the capital that was necessary to rent a theater because for 12 lectures, that was a $60,000 investment about that something like that and then another $8000 for the for the camera work, and that had to be basically dealt with upfront.

  • So it was a reasonable financial risk.

  • Now I've bean crazily fortunate in that theater tickets have also sold out.

  • So it looks like the biblical Siri's will pay for itself with some extra left over.

  • And so you know, I'm pretty happy about that because that gives me some more working capital.

  • And then you might say, Well, what am I going to do with the capital?

  • Well, I'm going to continue doing the sorts of things that I'm already doing.

  • I want to do a series on the 100 greatest books of the Western canon, for example.

  • I want to move genuine humanity's education out of the universities where it isn't being taught anyways, as far as I can tell online where people can access it freely.

  • I'm talking to a wide variety of people right now about trying to do that in a more formal sense, so that the possibility for widespread university education can be made universally accessible, and one of the things we're trying to crack is the problem of how to teach people to write, because that's a real troublesome thing.

  • And by the way, you know you guys.

  • If you go on to my website Jordan Peterson dot com, and you go into courses and you go into psychology for 30 if you look carefully there, you'll see that there's an essay rubric that teeth that tells people how to write.

  • And actually that's become quite popular.

  • And so, if you're interested in how to learn to write, I've written something about that already, and we're gonna make a piece of software that's gonna help people learn to write.

  • And so I've got plans for how to make writing education broadly accessible to people.

  • So I would like to make humanity's education of the highest order broadly accessible to people, and I also want to teach them how to write.

  • And I'm going to try to crack the online university accreditation problem.

  • And so part of the money that or a substantial proportion of the money that is being donated to me, let's say or is being offered to be by my monthly supporters, so that's all of you people is going to be going to projects exactly like that.

  • And the reason for that is that what the hell else would I do with the money?

  • You know?

  • I mean, to me, money is a tool.

  • It's not.

  • It's not the means whereby you develop a luxurious lifestyle and spend your time burning yourself.

  • Have to death in the sun in the Caribbean, snorting cocaine and chasing hookers.

  • You know, it's just that's just not in the cards for me, and and so I wanted to vote it towards the sorts of things that have already been pursuing except on a broader scale.

  • And so, you know, when I think of people like Elon Musk, too, not that I'm comparing myself.

  • The Lord must.

  • But I mean, he has plenty of money, and I mean, you really somebody's gonna have the damn money.

  • It might as well be people who have the kind of vision that people like he does have, because maybe they'll do something good for the world.

  • I mean, I hope is Giga factories produce batteries like mad so that we can, um, start to make alternative energy sources economically viable and maybe reduce our dependence on oil and maybe get ourselves out from underneath the thumb of the Saudi Arabs.

  • That would be a good thing.

  • So the monetary issue, it's it's quite interesting.

  • It's like it is not that you have the money, it's what you do with it.

  • So anyways, those are some of my plants, and that isn't all of them, because I'm going to come up with a bunch more plans, and I'm going to try to implement them as rapidly as I possibly can.

  • I've put my clinical practice on hiatus for the next three months so that I have a chance to think, and I've requested that the university advanced my sabbatical by one year.

  • So I should have about a year to think about what I should be doing with YouTube and how I can be promoting broad scale public education of the highest quality.

  • And that's a really fun problem to solve.

  • And the fact that I'm being supported by all of you people on Patron makes the probability that veil to all be able to devote my time to that much higher.

  • So so that's what I'm going to deal with it.

  • I'm gonna do the best things I can possibly think of to do with it and, uh, hopefully that'll work.

  • And so far it seems to be going well.

  • So, um yeah, I mean, I've Bean taken aback quite a bit by the I mean, it's not surprising that, you know the people who have been trying to take me down, let's say, are squawking and bitching because I happen to be generating a fairly reasonable income from this.

  • Although I don't think about it as an income has already said, I think about it as a as a tool kit for pursuing more interesting things.

  • It's like if that's the best they could do with regards to continuing to tarnish my name, well, then let them let them go right ahead about that.

  • I think the proof is in the outcome and like the biblical Siri's, and that's a direct consequence of the Patriots support that seems to be going like mad.

  • I think you know about 500,000 people have watched the video so far with another who knows tens of thousands of people listening to the podcasts, and that's just a bloody miracle that that many people would be interested in what I consider the fundamental foundation for any true humanity's education so great will build from there.

  • And so that's That's what I'm gonna do with the money.

  • So and if people don't like that, then they don't have to donate or they don't have to subscribe.

  • It's hardly like it's mandatory.

  • So anyways, I'll start with that and I'll get to another question or a question.

  • Another question hum, Here's one that got 264 votes so far.

  • Is the belief in something more than experienced reality unreasonable?

  • Okay, so I want to address that question technically, to begin to begin with, because one of the things that you want to do when someone else you A question is that you want to take a look at the question because the question boxes you in in a certain way.

  • And if you're going to answer the question you make, you have to make sure that you've properly processed the structure of the question.

  • So let's look at this one is the belief in something more than experienced reality unreasonable.

  • And so then I'm gonna go Socratic on this and say, Well, it depends on what you mean by belief experienced reality, something Maur and unreasonable and and see.

  • The problem is you can't really answer a question like that unless you delve into the definitions.

  • So let's say, Well, what do you mean by experienced reality?

  • Do you mean that which is directly grip a bill by the senses?

  • While then I would say, Well, do you believe in numbers?

  • Because numbers aren't directly experience a ble, but obviously they're riel.

  • If you define reality as the use of concepts that give you grip and power in the world.

  • And I think because I'm a pragmatist in part, I mean part of the way that I define something as realists, whether or not it has functional operative status in the world.

  • And so the belief in something more than experienced reality is obviously clearly reasonable if you regard abstractions as something more than experienced reality, and that brings up another issue, and the issue is whether or not abstractions or even more real than experienced reality.

  • And I would say often they are because otherwise abstraction wouldn't work.

  • So it's definitely not unreasonable, and then you do you mean merely subjectively experienced reality, or do you mean the kind of reality that could be experienced by multiple people at the same time, because that's also different, that the latter is more in the domain of scientific inquiry.

  • And I think the problem with belief in subjectively experienced reality is not so much that what you experienced subjectively isn't really is that you can get the categories wrong.

  • You know, dreams are riel, but they're not the same kind of real as things in the outside world that other people can experience.

  • And to conflate the two or two failure failed to distinguish between them is a form of insanity.

  • But that doesn't mean that both of them aren't real.

  • So so the simple answer to the question is the belief is the belief in something more than experienced reality.

  • Unreasonable is no, but it depends on it depends on your specific definitions of all those terms, and those sorts of things really matter.

  • Okay, Bob Asprey says I'm a 58 year old American redneck who never went to call it a day in his life.

  • But I feel like I'm getting a world class education every day.

  • Thank you, Dr Peterson.

  • You are very cool.

  • Well, thank you.

  • I don't know how cool I am exactly.

  • But I'm I tell you, man, and this is the dead truth.

  • I am absolutely thrilled that I have the opportunity to provide educational resources to people all over the world.

  • It's a dream, you know, really.

  • I mean, it's an absolute privilege.

  • So and I get letters from people like you very, very frequently from all over the world.

  • You know, when the fact that now we have the technology to allow people in principle to have a world class university educationist, mind boggling and here's something I think is absolutely comical.

  • And I've been pursuing this with a group of people that I've bean discussing, I've been having intense discussions with some in Silicon Valley and some in Montreal, in some in Toronto.

  • You know, here's the university situation.

  • In many ways, Number one, they're putting students in debt in a tremendous way in the United States over because of overpriced education.

  • They don't let the students declare bankruptcy because of the debt.

  • And so it's basically indentured servitude.

  • And so then students come out of university, indefinite heavily at the time of their life when they should be relatively free of financial burdens.

  • So that they can be creative and entrepreneurial because you're going to do that when you're young.

  • Generally speaking, then the universities have become administratively top, heavy and stultified.

  • Because of that, then they've abandoned their commitment to the humanities.

  • Right then, they're not utilizing modern technology to extend.

  • Their reach is broadly as they possibly could.

  • Then they've.

  • They are in some sense abandoned their responsibility to do accrediting properly and devalued the value of the degree because they treat their students like consumers and inflate the great currency.