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  • I'm interested in the twin prime conjecture

  • so this is

  • Asking about consecutive prime numbers p 1 as the first prime which be equal to [2] and there'll be the second time

  • P 2 which would be equal to 3

  • And you can look at the gaps between the primes, so the gap between three and two...

  • is one, this is the only time you can possibly have two prime numbers which differ by exactly one, so the next smallest possible gap

  • Would be a gap of size, [two]

  • It's only not the case that all gaps become size 2

  • But the question is how many of these gaps of size two? So for example,

  • 101 and 103 are two rather large prime numbers which differ by exactly 2. And then the twin prime conjecture

  • says that this having two primes which differ by exactly 2 happens infinitely often

  • If the twin prime conjecture is false,

  • At some point you go along the number line, and then all prime gaps would always be bigger than two

  • But we don't believe that's the case. We believe that it should be the case the twin prime conjecture is correct

  • So no matter how far you go along

  • There's always going to be some bigger primes and in fact infinitely many bigger primes that differ by

  • Just exactly two so you can test this on a computer

  • And we found pairs of primes that differ by exactly [2] with over

  • 300,000 decimal digits and in fact they're surprisingly common that it's certainly not all the time

  • but if you look at the first

  • how far you have to go after a million to find a pair of twin primes

  • It's not very far. If you look after a billion, It's not very far if you look after a thousand billion

  • It's actually not very far until you start finding twin pines

  • Most primes aren't going to have the one after it been just two apart

  • But we still believe that you should be relatively plentiful and so far if you check on a computer this seems to be true

  • but whether it's really true all the way as far as you go is something that you can't check on the computer and

  • That's where you need to try and prove the real mathematical result

  • So we don't actually know how old the twin prime conjecture is

  • that some people have claimed that it should go all the way back to euclid and it's certainly the kind of question that the

  • Ancient Greeks could easily have thought about the most recent time where we've seen someone really write down the conjecture

  • officially was just over 100 years ago by de Polignac

  • But he actually conducted a rather stronger more general form of the twin prime conjecture that's a bit more complicated

  • It's not just gaps of size 2 but also gaps of size 4 and gaps of size six

  • And so there's a suspicion that the twin prime conjecture itself is rather older than that

  • But we know it's at least a hundred years old possibly thousands of years old. If we're still finding these things

  • Way way down the number line, and we know they're an infinite number of primes

  • This is a known thing... if they did stop

  • What would stop them occurring like what is... what beast out there could stop twin primes occurring?

  • It doesn't seem as any roadblocks of them happening forever.

  • This is one of the interesting and frustrating things about prime numbers,

  • that often it's clear what the right answer should be if you give me a simple problem

  • Like the twin prime conjecture, you can think about it heuristically a bit, you can check it on the computer

  • And you can quite quickly convince yourself that this should clearly be the right answer

  • And you can do it in a fairly confident way so lots of problems about prime numbers

  • we believe we know what the correct answer should be it's just that we don't know how to prove it and

  • The game is always trying to rule out there being some very bizarre conspiracy amongst prime numbers

  • That would mean that they would behave in a rather different way to how we believe that they should behave

  • So you're completely right that if the twin prime conjecture was false there'll be some

  • strange switch that happens at some strange point far down the number line

  • There's an absolutely huge breakthrough by Yitang Zhang just relatively recently in 2013

  • He showed that although he couldn't prove the twin prime conjecture (that two is a gap infinitely often)

  • And he similarly couldn't conclude that four is a gap infinitely often, he showed that either two or four or six or eight or some number

  • Less than 70 million has to be a gap infinitely often. So the gap wasn't 70 million

  • It was just somewhere between two and 17 million, but he didn't know what it was?

  • Right, he couldn't say which one of these came as a gap,

  • but he was able to show that at least one of these occurs as a gap infinitely after and 70 million might sound like a

  • Huge number to most people it's certainly a lot bigger than two for example

  • But before that we had no idea of, how we could possibly prove anything like this

  • That he showed that no matter how far you go down the number line

  • There's always these primes that get clumped bizarrely close together

  • Because when you start looking at really really really big prime numbers, prime numbers become quite rare

  • so if you're looking at numbers with billions and billions of decimal digits for example

  • Then suddenly the average gap will be well over a billion and if you look at even bigger ones you get even bigger gaps

  • So typically prime numbers will have these very big gaps

  • And he showed that no matter how far you go down the number line you will get these pairs that come really close together

  • At least compared to how they typically look I guess.

  • Earlier on around 2005,

  • there was this earlier work of Goldston Pintz and Yildirim, who came up with a new method for thinking about the twin prime conjecture

  • and problems closely related to it. People worked really hard to try and push

  • Goldston Pintz and Yildirim's ideas a little bit further

  • but there seemed to be this big obstacle that we kept on not being able to make progress on and

  • It was this problem which Yitang Zhang managed to break through, came as a complete shock to everyone

  • I think precisely because people had worked so hard on this

  • particular approach and all the experts had been completely stumped on this. so 70 million is a

  • Slightly arbitrary number that just comes out of the method and in fact his method really just showed some number

  • And he didn't try and optimize the 70 million too much. So if you take exactly his argument

  • But you're ever so slightly more careful with the numerical calculations

  • You can bring 70 million down to 30 million

  • And then if you tweak his arguments and rearrange things ever so slightly it's still fundamentally the same argument as what he had

  • But you can bring 30 million down to 20 million and so as soon as Yitang Zhang's result came out

  • there was this huge excitement at the result in trying to understand the result, but they also became a

  • Small online competition amongst

  • Mathematicians as to

  • How low can you make the gap that we knew 70 million was an upper bound, this is the first time we had a

  • Finite bound, but we also knew that by tweaking the arguments

  • You should be able to bring 70 million down to some smaller number

  • How low could you go just using what he had put out there and putting in the extra work?

  • So there was a polymath project

  • Which was a big online collaborative project that set up precisely to try and optimize the arguments in Zhang's work,

  • Now, they came up actually with quite a lot of neat ideas to make Jang's argument as efficient as possible

  • They were able to bring Zhang's bound of 70 million down to I think

  • 4680.

  • so I'd actually been thinking about a

  • Completely separate approach to this bound of gaps problem before Zhang's work came out

  • so I was super excited that Zhang's work came out 'Cause it's fascinating to me because I was

  • still a phd student at the time. Excited or disappointed? Like did you feel like "Oh no I've been beaten" or were you really excited?

  • So I never had any belief that my ideas would lead to bound of gaps between primes in any way,

  • So I was just excited. I think you always super excited when you

  • Suddenly one of these big results comes out and you know that collectively we understand something new about prime numbers

  • So I was just desperate to get into the details of Zhang's work. There's always this

  • Intense frustrating game that you play when you do mathematics that you sort of feel that you have an idea

  • but you don't quite know

  • Exactly how it fits in and it takes a long time of fumbling around in the darkness before you really get intuition for how

  • What you're thinking about works... It's a huge motivation to me that this is part of the fun

  • It's the chase of the problem and trying to understand what's going on

  • So I was still completely addicted to this thing that I've been working on

  • And I viewed it as a side benefit that it might actually be able to help this

  • big collaborative project if I could sort my ideas out, but then the huge surprise to me was that actually once I managed to

  • Grasp a hold of this and look at things in from the right perspective

  • A variation on the ideas that I was thinking about

  • Were able to prove bound of gaps in a completely different way to Zhang's work.

  • This gave a completely new way of proving bound of gaps between times

  • so both my work and Zhang's work is very much based on the earlier work of Goldston Pintz and Yildirim

  • and Goldston Pintz and Yildirim used an argument that's fundamentally using a technique known as Sieve methods

  • They proved a great result about primes which come close together

  • And they said if we could prove this other technical result that isn't to do with Sieve methods

  • Then we'd be able to bound of gaps between primes, and so what Zhang managed to do is

  • Essentially proved something like what they wanted to prove and therefore use their argument to get bound of gaps between primes.

  • Whereas

  • my approach was based on their original ideas rethinking some of the way their original argument worked which meant that you didn't need such a

  • Strong technical input and so I could use weaker results that be known for the past 50 years or so instead

  • On the one hand I tend to sort of feel my way to a proof and know it's right before I

  • Actually write down all the details so I did have this feeling that yes, this has the feeling of being right

  • But at the same time I remember

  • Being pretty scared when I first came up with the ideas

  • Because you know I was going to be very much putting myself out there

  • And it's very important for mathematicians to really be strict with themselves to check that they've got all the details right

  • but you often have this internal feeling about these things and it felt like it to me.

  • I was really surprised, so yeah there was suddenly lots and lots of interest

  • I was a postdoc at the time in Montréal when this came out and suddenly I was getting invitations to fly all over

  • to give talks in different places in the US, so it was really exciting for me being able to

  • Meet all these famous mathematicians, give talks of my work suddenly everyone is very excited. I hadn't really expected this at all

  • I thought you know I was pleased that I'd proven a nice result

  • But I was more pleased because I'd finally managed to get an understanding of these things and

  • I had the satisfaction of the proof. I hadn't really expected there to be any

  • Media interest or all these people asking me to give talks and things.

  • So some people have called it the Maynard and Tao method

  • So Terry Tao was also thinking about similar ideas

  • He was very actively involved in leading this polymath project

  • And so he came up with essentially the same method at the same time

  • It was another bizarre coincidence that there were

  • There was this one proof by Yitang Zhang that came out and then both terry and I came up with

  • This new alternative method. So some people been calling it the Maynard Tao method. So the current state of the art, trying to optimize

  • All these techniques including with these new method and these new ideas is

  • Is that they're infinitely many pairs of primes that differ by no more than two hundred and Forty-six. We expect that every even number

  • between 2 and 246 occurs, it's no different, in particular we expect two

  • But we know there's at least one between 2 and 246

  • Can your method get us to two?

  • Unfortunately there's a

  • Fundamental barrier to our method get my sequel to to you so in some later work

  • we said that if you [a] really optimistic about how we could maybe get all the technical stages of the argument to fit together and

  • If you able to prove these other very strong results that were sort of strong versions of what yu tang jang managed to prove then

  • Maybe you can just about push our methods to get gaps of size at most six infinitely often

  • But we also showed that there's not going to be any small variation on

  • These sorts of ideas that can really get down to two so you can get close to you

  • But not quite all the way

  • there's a new idea that's needed to get all the way to the twin type of injection for sure the reason for it is that

  • We have these mathematical devices that are trying to detect time numbers

  • But they don't work perfectly there are only approximately detected prime numbers

  • So maybe they get it like one in ten of the time or one in

  • six of the time or something like that, and if you're getting like one in ten at the time

  • Then maybe if you're looking for primes that come close together you miss a whole load of being between primes

  • But you still find to that a pretty close together

  • So you may be missed out 10 of them

  • But on the tenth one you find one and there may be 10 times further apart in you love hopes

  • But they're still pretty close to get there no variation on these techniques even if you're really optimistic

  • Can ever improve your way of finding primes to one into?

  • Without using some extra automatic information and really a big new idea the fact that your proof has this

  • Trait to it that it involves approximation of things that aren't always right

  • Doesn't sound like what I mentioned a method proof

  • Is that already sounds like it's a bit hand wavy

  • And wishy-washy I happen to this beat one of these classic rigorous proof if it's like sometimes a bit wrong

  • like so this is actually a

  • common feature of lots of Modern mathematics that you'll maybe take inspiration from

  • Probability or engineering and you still have to write down the rivers mathematical proof

  • But you maybe think about the whole approach in a heuristic way

  • in a much less rigorous sense and so you might [think] about lots of randomness in your problem, and

  • You might be deliberately trying to

  • model prime numbers as random objects and

  • Think about them is not always being definitive and things being a bit approximate here and there

  • And when you write [down] your argument you have to write it down in a very rigorous way

  • But all the intuitive ideas for why you come up with that out one in the first place?

  • often taken inspiration from [Private] [sector] areas of

  • mathematics and science are you trying to find that breakthrough that will take us to tell you or do you feel like you've made your

  • Contribution, and that's gonna some come from another part of map or are you in the hand still and I would certainly still love to

  • Prove the Twin prime conjecture or something like that

  • And I do think about it on Friday afternoons and things that somehow. There's a big new idea

  • That's needed and at the moment collectively

  • I think we don't really have a

  • Clue for how to go about that someone needs to come up with an idea

  • and it's good to have these problems in the back of your mind because sometimes your subconscious just comes up with a

  • Good idea out of nowhere. So I like to think about it on and off

  • But I'm not working full time on the twin prime conjecture now just because at the moment

  • I don't have a plausible approach to how to get over their current bias

  • I still get my main motivation from the problems themselves, and I would certainly claim I

  • Haven't I [don't] feel terribly affected by the outside interest the reason that I want to

  • Understand things about prime numbers is because I'm fascinated by prime numbers

  • And I really want [to] get into the grips of the mathematical dirty details and do this although

  • [I] know that there's lots of good reasons for being interested in time

  • There's more generally for applications in the world Real world

  • And they certainly interest that it can be picked up on the popular press and things like that those aren't my personal motivation somehow

  • There's an inherent beauty about prime numbers

  • That's always what really motivates me to try and understand the mysteries of these seemingly very simple

  • But actually very complicated objects, but you don't get pressures

  • it's not like a boss will come up and say you know [James] to be really good for us if the

  • Number two came from here. I certainly not had anyone come

  • Try and get the enforces to make me bring the gap down so I've not felt any pressure myself. I can't speak for others

  • Which one would you most like to see solved which one would excite me the most I?

  • Think the Riemann hypothesis would be the first choice for most number theorists in terms of if you want a problem on prime numbers

  • The Riemann hypothesis just automatically proves about a million other theorem straight away, just off the bat

  • That's all these firms that say if we're even hypothesis to than this and so you

  • automatically prove a million other theorems just with this and we have this huge new understanding that even more than

  • The Riemann hypothesis as a result the proof and the ideas and the proof that [prove] [the] reason hypothesis

  • Inherently must get such a good understanding of prime numbers that will have this whole new way of looking about prime numbers

  • I would guess if someone was able to prove the [Riemann] hypothesis

  • And this whole new technique that would open up all kinds of new possibilities

  • So yeah, if I had to choose one, it'd be the Riemann hypothesis does the Riemann hypothesis ever get any of your brain done?

  • I

  • like to sometimes think about

  • Some questions connected to the Riemann hypothesis

  • but the Riemann hypothesis itself I feel I have no good intuitive way of even starting to how to

  • attack that kind of problem

  • But there's lots of smaller problems connected the Riemann hypothesis that are very important for Par numbers

  • And those are things that I'm very interested in certainly thinks about quite a lot yeah likely to find your n

  • You know your true love because the prime numbers are so far apart at that large end of things

  • So it's a pretty loveless place

  • You know at that end of things so you get a bigger a bigger numbers you might think there's just no way you're going to

  • Find your true [love]

I'm interested in the twin prime conjecture

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