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  • if you'd seen a game and watch was not so popular on the Atari had this crash, Was there any point where you felt you might be wasting your time?

  • Yes, yes, yes, any hints for us?

  • What's the best strategy?

  • Yeah, I forgot way saying Curia 97.

  • You won.

  • That's the time when he get into Nintendo.

  • What was it like to be in Nintendo at that time?

  • Well, there's lots of freedom of the company, Ma.

  • See you in the worst case scenario that there's nothing I could do when I got into the Nintendo.

  • But there's a lot of anticipation that I could do something really interesting by being part of a company.

  • What was the size of a Nintendo when you joined?

  • And how did it grow?

  • Why I joined Nintendo.

  • There's virtually no one who are specializing Elector Engineering.

  • I had a one colleague who studied at the university level's halfway Doctor Engineering, and that's about it.

  • I haven't played it.

  • Listen, Skin doing the testing field, How would it look like all the time I was there?

  • Our separation between hardware on software, I know his career.

  • Also, we're on the same team so initially, the hardware designer also worked on like a sound design, graphic design and even game design yourself and develop games.

  • So there's a lot of people who are specializing in electrical engineering but also as a hobby that place guitars or the pianos.

  • Are these those people available, some also into all painting as a hobby.

  • So during that time, even though they're designing hardware, Osama tends to the some worked on music, others works and graphic and all together they create a game design.

  • So they gave me.

  • But then, after the business start grow, everyone needs to focus on specialized functions by expanding business by implementing Let's Go division will labor so we could have Maur product shorter times.

  • So we they eventually hire somebody who are specializing music competitions at the university.

  • I will be recruited, and also those guys were specializing art I recruited to our company back These days, somebody will start with a design program to make something.

  • Did you literally just start writing on paper?

  • How did it start in back then?

  • In Japan, a lot of cases we studied video game developed in America.

  • It's got such it's the same situation not on in and nobody goes in like a title.

  • Sega.

  • So they were the import Atari products from America.

  • In a while, they're doing their business on the side of the also studies and what they've done that art has done as a product.

  • One of the Muslim breaks her back down was a space and better developed a title.

  • My developed by Mr Chicago ended up developing spacing better.

  • But before then he studied quite a bit about all these games.

  • Seville's in America and it also studied what the title has done on spacing, Murder, and then I tried to come up with are so after spacing very become huge hit.

  • And there is a toy that used electrical calculator Make it as a game.

  • That's how it started.

  • It's got some of them decided, or they start developing space invader type game using electrical calculator, having any size small monitors.

  • So that's how I need to that came up is the new you have Total came and watched use, um, like a mechanism elector calculator and then putting LCD markets.

  • Do you know so Nintendo, their first work for the home use game like device are his game and watch.

  • So are studying about arcade again because we have an operation that focused on arcade game service and stuff.

  • So we knew that is something that we should focus on.

  • But then, you know, we thought there was not possible to create toys.

  • They're focused on that function because it's just not possible.

  • So that's why we first started out with Kim and watch.

  • How does it feel to have a controller in your undergo?

  • Yeah, I remember testing it.

  • Align your list off credits on things that you were involved in.

  • It is very impressive.

  • How did it feel to be involved in all these things?

  • I'm really so surprised has looked back now that I did a lot of amazing stuff.

  • I'm surprised.

  • But while I was developing these projects, I was not completely satisfied because in one time he was too expensively.

  • The other time I want to do something more, but with technical limitation, we couldn't do that much, so there's a lot of complaints that I had that.

  • But I realize now that if we tried to do something interesting with technical limitations, there will be able to have a common is interesting stuff that would attract a lot of people.

  • I love the movement of jumping champion, well made story.

  • It's not possible to recreate this kind of jumping, actually, with walking seconds.

  • It's not the jump.

  • You're jumping sick.

  • It's really difficult to be create.

  • He was really not possible for a while, so So what we did, for our perspective, is that when that heart 26 sound came out, we import that device and then play the games with that.

  • But then, after the analysis, after studying the authoritarian 600 their conclusion was that he was not convincing for kids in Japan enough to able to make it as a marketable product.

  • At the same time, we had another information that the Donkey Kong that they developed in Japan became more popular in America than those in Japan, Georgia and you.

  • But at the time, the game watch was really popular in Japan, so there was a corporate.

  • The decision was that they don't needs to create the Kajaki conks off because the game watchers already popular.

  • But then the during the time for the videogames shakeout took place in America was a tally started collapse in 1983.

  • So the game Bush watch was no longer popular.

  • By that time, we had a prototype, which they're working on for the family computer.

  • And then is that the fact that the game watch is now saying, Well, as he used to me.

  • Then there was a command from the top corporate t sell.

  • The family computer has a product, but at that time there's no company that could supply L S I, which could be used for five.

  • Medical bitter.

  • Because a majority of semiconductor company in Japan was focusing on developing computer chips for home computers, personal beauty in areas have.

  • But then there's one company called Rico, which, usually creating chips for the office copying machines.

  • We're able to create the chips that is suitable for a family, even though RICO had a capability to creating semiconductors unless I know the company didn't allow them to put the device into like a copy machine.

  • So the team are designing Ellis.

  • I was a bit frustrated at the time, So now all time that Nintendo couldn't find the company that could create a sigh.

  • Recall for great come out creating this eye so they're met together and get together.

  • We have Donkey Kong behind you and you've been working on bringing this into the home trying to understand how you go about that.

  • So at first, the other side that the semiconductor come to that creating as I was saying, It's not possible, you must because it costs a lot of money to do that.

  • You know, at that time, in order to thio face really create what you could do is arcade game version of Donkey Kong you need before I decide to do that right.

  • But in the order from the president wants to make sure to sell this in the product at the committal price off 15,000 yen maximum.

  • You got a screen that size.

  • That means we could only use two chips.

  • Not for So it's the cooperation between Nintendo And then l aside, developer that make sure to put maximum amount off graphical sound capability of Donkey Kong sama.

  • Tennessee put them into two chips.

  • That was quite a challenge for recall as well.

  • Medio there.

  • So where the challenge is for both of us.

  • But we just did our best.

  • I see your name is down as producer for Donkey Kong.

  • Is this because of the family conversion off it?

  • Maybe that's for the family computer version, because you look and the graphic design wise, it's very similar.

  • But them from program perspective, the chemical version and arcade of us is completely different.

  • What tricks did you use to make it work?

  • Thank you.

  • Try to put them all together in this chip.

  • It more calls to make on that.

  • So did the advances in science help with that?

  • Was it?

  • The chips were getting more capable?

  • What?

  • And also we're with rectify the graphic chips there at that time?

  • So that's why even OCP yourself.

  • 606543 we'll dip it, daughters.

  • Maximum graphic capability into this processing modern major way had a source court for the arcade version of Donkey Kong.

  • So for the archaea, Virgin used a GI 80 instead of 65 or to his family game, a different CPU.

  • So we have Thio program from scratch there, but we have the architect game right outside.

  • So during the porting process, we played it as much as possible to be able to face for Yuri Craig how it is on the family computer stick to you.

  • So it was really hard challenge in such a short time with such a different type of technical capability of today.

  • Maybe the game is written in a high level language on.

  • Then you comport from one to another to another.

  • And that was no how this waas did you hear that?

  • Not at all.

  • More hardware.

  • Someone you have to work on with hardware.

  • No hope appears and says there's no operation system available.

  • Then over my shoulder.

  • We have a family company.

  • How does it feel to hold this again?

  • Quarter wanted Little Motley.

  • Take that door.

  • Can you mask?

  • It's a toy.

  • It's a good toy, I guess.

  • I look back.

  • I guess he was, in fact, a very amazing piece of toy.

  • I think the important portion off this device is this place right here.

  • The ejection car predictions This one allowed the kids to reject the cartridge pops out if you push it Toyota Corolla from device perspective, that eject button is not necessary, but that he put it on purpose because it's a toy.

  • Another thing was, we initially thought that we were just only one controller because this is a device which allow kids to be in front of TV and then play alone.

  • That was a new things about the tour, but around that time there's arcade games, which allowed two players to play simultaneously.

  • Thus, we decide to power to control ice everyone.

  • I think a lot of people are shocked at how faithfully reported this archaic device to find especially looking at this jumping secrets of the games.

  • Jump is action are done by kids those it's gonna cool jumping his actions not done.

  • Some oozing kids will realize that one, but in Dr Khan was face fully be able to recreate that jumping action.

  • So that's one thing great about this game.

  • They know what they're doing.

  • He takes his over one and produces that same a one so that he could decrypt a message and read it.

  • So Alice maybe wants to send another one.

  • So she's gonna take Ms Kedia function again.

  • She's going to produce a new K and a two.

  • You're gonna send that to Bob.

if you'd seen a game and watch was not so popular on the Atari had this crash, Was there any point where you felt you might be wasting your time?

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