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  • This episode of Film Riot is brought to you by Domain.com

  • Today we dive into a pool of sound, not literally of course, although that would be a touch

  • of awesome.

  • Welcome to Film Riot, the show that takes the mystery out of the effects and techniques

  • that goes into some of your favorite Hollywood films. I’m your host, Ryan Connolly.

  • Off the bat, I’m going to get sidetracked. We just did a game on Film State that I thought

  • was a lot of fun and I think you guys might dig it too. It’s the IMDB Movie Game, which

  • you can play along with. Tons of fun, so if you want to check it out, go here.

  • What’s this? Love Losses, especially the sound. Really hoping you do an episode on

  • what went into creating the sound for Losses.

  • We have covered some Foley and whatnot in the past, but still I think a behind the scenes

  • look at the audio I did for Losses may be of help to some of you. So, first thing I

  • do when starting audio for a project is to sit down and watch it with a pen and paper.

  • Of course what I’m watching is the final edit. So I watch through the edit and I start

  • to jot down all the sounds I need to create from Foley and which ones I can get from a

  • sound library. I will watch the project four or five times in a row to make sure I don’t

  • miss anything, and I’m writing everything from footsteps to gunshots, even something

  • as little as a clothespin hitting the table.

  • Once I’ve done all of that, I start with the biggest sounds first. Most of these I

  • can get from a library or have already made myself, like the gunshots which I used a combination

  • of sounds I made myself and some I have from a sound effects library. Or the punch sounds,

  • which was also a mixture of sounds I made myself and some from a library

  • Now everyone has there own method and I personally like to keep everything clean and separate

  • and then I bring it all together in the end. So I render the video out from premier and

  • then I bring it into Audition, use as my reference. Next, I start laying in my library sounds

  • and mixing them and adding EQ and reverb to help them match their environment as much

  • as possible.

  • After I finish that pass, I move on to Foley, which are sounds I will make from scratch,

  • using an assortment of things. I actually did an episode on Foley in the past which

  • you can find right here. In that episode I give you a pretty good way to create your

  • own punching sounds, so check that out.

  • Now, I’ll just grab a stick and whack away. For Losses, some of the more fun Foley sounds

  • I made were the sounds of stabbing Bruno, the sound of the pool stick breaking and where

  • Josh stabs Nick with the pool stick. Half the fun of Foley for me is finding the sound,

  • going through different things, looking for that perfect sound for what you are looking

  • for. And then that awesome ah ha moment once you hear that sound. For the sound of Bruno

  • getting stabbed, I tried a few different things, including stabbing a few different types of

  • fruit with a similar object to the paper clip. What ended up doing the trick for me were

  • two sounds. One, the sound of me jerking a fork back and forth inside of a potato. The

  • second sound was me stabbing a spoon into a far of peanut butter. Once I had them recorded,

  • I picked a few I really liked and used them from the different stabs. I also had the peanut

  • butter sound getting louder with each stab since I wanted it to sound a bit more wet

  • with each one, so it felt a bit more gory every time, like the blood coming out on his

  • neck.

  • Two of my favorite sounds to create where involving the pool stick, one where it breaks

  • and then the one where Josh stabs Nick. For the break, I used a lot of different sounds,

  • I think eight in total. One of them was me snapping a stick, one crushing thin pieces

  • of wood, a hanger whipping past the mike, snapping a belt together, crumbling some wood

  • chips on to another wooden top and a few other things like it. But, it still sounded a bit

  • empty so I put away the obvious and started looking around my house for sounds. And funny

  • enough the thing I found to finish off my sound was a bag of salad. This added an extra

  • crunch I needed, whipping the salad this way and that, still inside the bad, which is a

  • big reason I love Foley because you never know what it is that is going to give you

  • the sound that you need. So, keep an open mind.

  • And just to push that thought a bit further. For the sound of Nick getting stabbed in the

  • back, I once again used my bag of salad, but also added sounds from my own mouth. I felt

  • so ridiculous while doing and Josh and Stark were looking at me like I was crazy but it

  • worked perfectly. So if you want to add Foley to your film, just keep an open and creative

  • mind in the process. But now, a quick break and well talk a bit about ADR and my recording

  • set-up.

  • What are you fart baskets doing? Trying to come up with a new ad for domain.com for Film

  • Riot. How long have you been in here? Three days. Serious. Domain.com and Film Riot. How

  • hard can it possibly be? Harder than you think, it has to be both comical and informative.

  • Make you giggle while pointing out how domain.com’s easy check out process makes it simple to

  • find domain names, and set up a website. Plus, pointing out that domain transfers to domain.com

  • are only $7.61 and if you use the promo code FilmRiot, you get 15% off your domain purchase

  • or transfer. That’s only $6.47 for a domain transfer, no… I know math. Wait, I’ve

  • got an idea. Josh and Stark can be standing outside and I will come on and likeStark,

  • you should use domain.com”, and hell be all likenah”. I pull out my Samaria

  • sword and start hacking him to bits while Josh is all likesweet God, open your light

  • of mercy and stop this.” That’s morbid and it has nothing to do with domain.com.

  • Did you miss the exposition when I told him to use domain.com? That’s not exposition,

  • and it’s morbid. You just say things that I say, I say things that are good, and you

  • say dumb things, two times, you hurt my feelings. I got another idea. Don’t want it. I’m

  • curious. Josh is on the computer, getting a domain from domain.com and all of the sudden

  • a little Ninja comes up and starts hacking him to pieces with a Samaria sword. Don’t

  • piss off little Ninjas, that’s worse than the last idea, you killed me even though I

  • told you I was already using domain.com. Yes, but you didn’t use the promo code FilmRiot.

  • Bam. Marketing. Nice. Not nice. Youre impossible to please. No, I just want a good idea. Then

  • just do one ad about trying to come up with an ad. We did that already. Not with me. True,

  • it’s genius. It could go viral. No, it will go viral. I’m confused, did we already shoot

  • it?

  • Welcome back, now on to recording and my set up for recording was super simple. I didn’t

  • use pro tools since I wanted to give Audition a try. For the mike, I just used the same

  • shotgun we always use for production sound. And I ran the shotgun mike through my H4 and

  • zoom which I use as an interface for Audition. That’s it. Then I recorded straight into

  • Audition and I was very impressed with it. I loved how it is set up to mix and work with

  • effects so much more than sound tracks. For quick turn around work, I think it’s a great

  • alternative to Pro Tools. One of the things that impressed me most was noise reduction.

  • For the final scene in Losses, there was an intense hiss in the audio from the room I

  • was shooting in and it ended up being pretty distracting. So I brought that audio into

  • Audition and used their noise reduction process by applying it and then selecting a section

  • of just noise, setting the noise print and this tell audition what frequency the noise

  • actually is so it can single it out. So now I can select a whole track and tweak the parameters

  • until I have what I want. To show you the difference, here is a before and after.

  • Of course you have to be careful how far you push this or you will start getting this obvious

  • digital sound, but even with all the post work you can do in audio, there are still

  • some things you can’t salvage and for that we have ADR, which again we got into deeper

  • in older episodes so check that out here and again, this was a super simple setup. All

  • I did was have Todd go under a blanket so we could cancel out as much room noise as

  • possible, which was helpful and amusing. Now for Losses, I originally intended to do a

  • lot more ADR than I actually did since there were a few times when the production sound

  • would actually peek. But once I started doing my ADR, I realized in one or two particular

  • moments we were losing the intensity of the performance with the ADR so I decided to let

  • it go for the sake of performance in those two sections. This is something you will have

  • to decide on your own, which is more important to you. But for me, the emotion was a lot

  • more important here than the technical.

  • But there you go a behind the scenes look at the sounds of Losses. Now, Losses was a

  • quickie shoot, done for a little amount of money and in a little amount of time. Some

  • stuff did suffer for this, like the final mix of the audio for the film, since I had

  • to record all the Foley grunt passes and so on and do my final mix all in the same day,

  • in all honesty I think the audio in Losses came out just passable, I would love to have

  • a few more days to work on the sound, but that is how things are in this industry. You

  • have a deadline and you do what you can up until that moment.

  • One of my favorite sayings is: a movie isn’t finished, it escapes. And it is so true. Why

  • am I telling you this? I think there are a lot of scenes and moments in Losses that are

  • not as good as they could have been and it is due to the sound not being 100% so make

  • sure you spend the proper time on your audio when you work on your film in post. The great

  • thing for most of you, you don’t have a deadline, your project is done when you want

  • it to be so be sure to give your sound the TLC it deserves.

  • That’s it my friends. As always you can follow me on Twitter, at twitter.com/ryan_connolly

  • if you do so choose, or our Facebook page for some delightful delights and if you are

  • interested, check out my triunefilms Facebook page, we just put up a bunch of new film maker

  • TV designs and just like last time, we want you to help us decide which ones we are going

  • to make. So jump over there and vote for the two you like most by liking the pictures of

  • those shirts. The two that get the mostlikes’, will be the ones we put into production right

  • away so go there, check it and let us know what you think. I’ll see you guys next time

  • when some friends and I make a space ship that looks like an old shack and then we fly

  • it into space, just to find some aliens who are teenagers too. Look at that.

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