Subtitles section Play video Print subtitles but you just Well, you just said just work. Today we're gonna review smart coffee scales. This review, I thought would be easy. I was just gonna buy these sets of scales, do some basic testing on features on Declare a winner. That isn't what happened. That's not what this review is going to be. We're gonna dive into the world of smart scales now. Briefly, I want to tell the story of scales and coffee. I think going back to 2012 was when the sort of the Harry oh coffee scales launched right when we started to get really serious about weighing our poor of his RV sixties. Whatever we're making now, I confess I had a little bit of a hand in these. The reason that they have varying levels of accuracy, they're they're kind of 0.1 at 0 to 200 grams or 2000.5 205 100 grams. That's my fault. That was my suggestion. I own no money from these. I was never paid for this advice to hurry. Oh, but But it was My suggestion is away to let you go wept two kilos, but have accuracy where you needed it to make it 20.1 gram accurate all the way up to two kilos would have made it much more expensive than it. Waas. So this was the kind of compromise that's by the by. This thing was a set of scales that was designed or focused on making coffee on along with your weighing function. You had a time of function, and that's kind of what sets coffee scales apart from other things. But this was the beginning, and these work, like just about all kitchen scales work. You have a base here, and then you have a way pan here and connecting the way. Pant of the base is a piece of metal called a load cell. On as that piece of metal Ben's underweight, you can measure the varying current across that piece of metal, and he can convert that into a wait. That little load cell is pretty the same in pretty much all the scales here. Low cells are very simple things. The software, what you do with that information. That's where things get tricky now. No question. The game was changed when a Kyra kick started their first set of coffee scales. The pearl set of coffee scales and they did something kind of interesting. They took this little way pan on top of this little base and they just turned it upside down. So suddenly you're Wait, Pan was your base, and your base was on top is where everything waas and this means that the scales were kind of spongy because everything you pushed was pushing down on the way pan. But it meant that water would run off the edge down and couldn't get back up inside to mess with the electronics in most states of scales having this way around with the way pan on top left, the electron is exposed to water, and that was bad. Now, here in front of me, I have seven sets of scales, most of which have paid for, thanks to the support of Patriots. People support me each month on Petrie on giving me a budget to go out and buy these things on. Their four have an unbiased opinion about them, and that way I'm not relying on manufacturers giving them to me on. I'm not spending the money out of pocket because there's about $1000 worth of scales here which is which is a lot here I have the timber more black mirror scale. It's about 99 euros. 100 euros. I think I paid for this here, which I already owned is the scale this I have because it connects to the decent. But it is a smart scale worth talking about. This isn't $99. This is the Brewster smart scale. I think this is about £100. This is the solicitor inclined. It's about $115. Here is the new A. Kyra Pearl Model s, which is $185 or about £185 in the UK On the end is the high Roya Jimmy, which is about £270 or I think, like, 285 $290 online in the U. S. Which is a lot. Initially, we're gonna do two tests. We're gonna do a boot up test, which is how long does it take from pushing go to being ready to put away, and then we're gonna do a test to see what the lag is like. So I'm just gonna dose about 30 grams of coffee into each scale and see how long it takes to register the correct final Wait. Then we're gonna talk about APS, but we'll come back to that a second. So let's just dive into those two tests. First of all, Oh oh, So how many's talk about apse? Because, abs, the way these things become, in theory, smart. So each of these does haven't IOS app that I have downloaded onto my phone. I think most of them support Android, but I'm not sure how. Well, I'm not gonna make coffee with each scale, because that would be reasonably wasteful. And I tried toe waste less. These days. I'll just be pouring water from pouring cattle into a brewer to mimic the kind of pouring you would have with a B 60. It should let us see how the apse work on. I'll let you see what I see on my screen. So let's start with the timber more black mirror. So well, that's good news. That's crashed immediately on DDE. There we go. Let's try that one more time on crush, right? What? What an auspicious start For a smart girl. We finally have a nap connected to the phone, which is terribly nice only took deleting and reinstalling the app, which is perhaps not the ideal user experience. Now. Where you can see from the APP is that you have some level of preloaded recipe in here, and if you jump in with settings, it'll let you play with your ratio, which is very common thing here. A lot of them won't do that kind of 1 to 41 to 15 thing, which I have said, I'm not an enormous fan off. Then what's frustrating to me is that I might want a brew 30 grand to say 500. But because I'm stuck in a ratio slider, I can't actually get it to do that. The closest I can get us 510. Now you can select your bean really quite odd selection here. You got Mandela in Guatemala, weirdly spelled yoga, Jeff Saddam. Oh, but no Ethiopia. You've got you, nan, which is good. But also pack camera, which is a variety bluemountain geisha, Kona, Kenya. I don't get it. I'm really a little bit confused. Okay, so we're ready to bring a brood over here to try and prevent too much sound of brewing coming through on the microphone. So let's go. Let's let's start with a loud beep. So what you get here on the screen is a pretty typical kind of brew print. I think that's a Caires term for it, but a sort of simple chart showing cumulative weight over time. So you have, like, a bloom phase. Let it run for a while more and then admiral. Now one thing that the scale is it will tell you off. If it thinks you're brewing a bit too aggressively, loudly will tell you off. I don't really know what triggers it. There's not really an obvious setting to control that. It obviously just thought I was pouring my water too quickly. But it doesn't beat. To tell May have hit my target weight seems odd, and it doesn't really care that I've gotten that too quickly. Just if you hit a certain grams per second, I think on the flow rate, then that's that's bad. It's safe on I get to comment. Is it excellent? Is it good? Average poor bad talk about that later. There's some flavor descriptors here. You could add them. You can use. Theirs is pretty limited choices. A contract which device are used. Then you get your blueprint down there, and I can save that as a record and you can share it. But into we chat, which is something that a lot of people outside of mainland China are really using. And there you go, you brute. That is the That's the black mirror when it what? When it works. So a little bit buggy. I know it's really just kind of just out of beta, but certainly a slightly frustrating experience there to start with. I'm not hugely sure that the way is trying to guide me into brewing is particularly intuitive or helpful. And now we have this scale app, which has, I think, the ugliest app. I think I could think off. It looks like, um, someone who's designed this has done like a bad job porting it, toe IOS from something else. The layout is all screwy and messed up. The kind of mixed typography and everything else it's it's not. It's not much fun. Now you've got a few little things here. You got a timer, it's got It's got a kind of unit function, which might be some sort of brew ratio thing I don't really understand, but anyway, let's start on. All it's doing is sort of tracking. Wait on tracking time, which is pleasantly simple. Frankly, there's no charting of this data. It's just a simple graphical display. It's just an ugly one. If I'm honest, so as much as it might be smart, it's not. It's not hugely smart. There's a start. Stop for the time of this, an auction to save anything here. But that's that's the app. It's not remotely intuitive to me. It's not particularly helpful on it's not in any way beautiful. Yeah, it's no good. Okay, next up on our list is the Felicity in climates. Open up that up. Let's open up this, uh, scale. Give a little boot up and something's crashed or hung. I don't really know. It just is saying solicitor on the scale that you annoyed you could wait on you So secret here apparently is to to open the scale first and then open the app, which seems to me probably like a book, not the first. So again, a pretty minimal app, a little bit more beautiful than the scale app, though essentially showing you the same data at the beginning. There is the opportunity to build out a recipe. Why this is black type against the dark background. I have no idea. Again, we've got a weird selection of origins which come with to protect, You know, when we take multiple what's happening here, we've got a misspelled Colombia. It was a win. Brazil, Panama. I don't understand Salvatori. It's human. Supposed to be El Salvador, Cameroon. Let's pretend we're braced, Cameron. We contract our brew tools and cattle. I don't know why I attract those things, I guess first tracking everything I might and then let's have some coffee in here. Oh goodness May. That's an unpleasant way to put in data. Now it's quite easy to miss. Tap the okay button and then end up moving your ratio out there and again. I can't change my water to be what I want to be. M stuck with a fixed ratio thing deep breath and lets it go. Let's see what happens. So you are hot water injection that's happening here. Oh, my Lord, this is hideous and confusing. This chart is the least intuitive thing I think I've ever seen. So you're getting a brew print, but at the same time this ridiculous sort of very large brew rate, I guess. Poor rate, flow rate display that looks like it was designed in the mid eighties. Let's go with that. I mean, that orange and blue combo is delightful. The pixelated nature and the slow refresh rate it's It's all bad. I don't I don't feel good. It's steaming. Oh, wait, we're blooming. But it's not blooming. It's steaming, so not smart enough to realize that I put my entire water weight in here. But now it knows that I've paused. It's pause the timer, which is particularly weird because you would usually include your bloom time in your poor time on DDE in a moment. Eventually, when we're done steaming in so many ways, we could begin again. The coffee is good. The coffee is good. Click save presume That's just touched the button when I get a brew print and I can edit my remarks was a flowery and nutty notes, either flowery or nutty. It's a little bit of a mess. I'm not sure why. Rough deserves being symbol, either. That's kind of weird and let's save that. And there we go. I'm now back at the screen where it's telling me to click Save again, but we know I'm done. If I click save, why go back to hear? But it's lost all my data. So let's just come out of there. I've saved it. What does it go? Read. Where does it go? Get your recipe has saved somewhere magically that you can't access anymore. Did I just lose my mind? I'm done. I'm done with this particular scale for today. This app is also bad. So now, before we dive into the suite of Akai Wraps, we're gonna talk about the Arroyo, Jimmy, the most expensive scare we have here. So let's try turning it on first. Good. Let's open up, Jimmy, our friendly up and were greeted by yet another reasonably unattractive screen. You've got espresso mode, poor of the mod training mode on display mode. That notion with the letter J is there to represent display mode. But But that's essentially just get a mirror what we see here on the phone, which for a scale with the remote do touchable thing, I don't know why you need. The whole point of this scale is that you know, you got this thing to put where you want to be, and then also have your phone. I don't know when I would need to have two displays at any one time. Uh, let's look a training mode. Now. This will train new to port at a specific flow rate. I'm gonna train for 30 seconds at five grams a second. Let's start training. So house killed my at the old flow rate. So aggressive. There we go. Six grams, I get score. We can compete and see who is the slow, careful, pouring champion thing. I got a four out of five score. Well done. Me and you get a little brew print. That's quite pretty, actually. Gonna say this is a nice looking blueprints style thing. I'm not gonna try again. I think I'm done now. We do also have espresso mode just to Jupiter that quickly. Now here it's kind of problematic because what your choices are with these three espressos states the way that the timings of starts as an auto start in that kind of stuff, s o. You know, water, tear auto start None of this is useful because none of this starts will correlate to your pump being switched on. It'll be correlated to liquid hitting a cup in some way or a cup going down on a scale on being ted out. But none of it connects to your actual pump starting, which is the correct time to track your espresso from. So I don't really understand the why of this here. Which leaves us with poor of the mod. We've got a previous brewing here. Let's design a recipe.