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  • DECIDED TO TAKE ON WEINSTEIN’S DEFENSE.

  • DEFENSE. >> LET’S START ACTUALLY TALKING

  • >> LET’S START ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT THE JURY SELECTION

  • ABOUT THE JURY SELECTION PROCESS.

  • PROCESS. WHAT DO YOU EXPECT AND HOPE FROM

  • WHAT DO YOU EXPECT AND HOPE FROM THIS PROCESS?

  • THIS PROCESS? >> WELL, WHAT I HOPE FOR MOST,

  • >> WELL, WHAT I HOPE FOR MOST, OBVIOUSLY, ARE FAIR JURORS.

  • OBVIOUSLY, ARE FAIR JURORS. I’M LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE

  • I’M LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO SAY, YOU KNOW, YES,

  • WILLING TO SAY, YOU KNOW, YES, I’VE SEEN MEDIA COVERAGE ON THIS

  • I’VE SEEN MEDIA COVERAGE ON THIS BECAUSE I DON’T THINK IT’S

  • BECAUSE I DON’T THINK IT’S REALISTIC TO THINK WELL FIND

  • REALISTIC TO THINK WELL FIND ANYONE WHO HASN’T.

  • ANYONE WHO HASN’T. SO LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WHO SAY, I

  • SO LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WHO SAY, I CAN BE FAIR.

  • CAN BE FAIR. >> HOW DO YOU ESTABLISH THAT?

  • >> HOW DO YOU ESTABLISH THAT? >> I THINK A LOT OF IT IS A GUT

  • >> I THINK A LOT OF IT IS A GUT FEELING I HAVE.

  • FEELING I HAVE. YOU START TO TALK TO PEOPLE, YOU

  • YOU START TO TALK TO PEOPLE, YOU PICK UP ON CERTAIN THINGS THAT

  • PICK UP ON CERTAIN THINGS THAT THEY SAY AND ANSWERS THAT THEY

  • THEY SAY AND ANSWERS THAT THEY GIVE TO QUESTIONS AND I THINK

  • GIVE TO QUESTIONS AND I THINK OVERALL, WHAT I HAVE FOUND IN

  • OVERALL, WHAT I HAVE FOUND IN MOST OF MY JURY SELECTION

  • MOST OF MY JURY SELECTION PROCESSES IN THE PAST IS JURORS,

  • PROCESSES IN THE PAST IS JURORS, ONCE THEY ARE SWORN INTO A CASE,

  • ONCE THEY ARE SWORN INTO A CASE, REALLY DO WANT TO BE FAIR.

  • REALLY DO WANT TO BE FAIR. AND SO WE NEED TO DO IS WE NEED

  • AND SO WE NEED TO DO IS WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FIND PEOPLE

  • TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FIND PEOPLE WHO ARE AT LEAST WILLING TO BE

  • WHO ARE AT LEAST WILLING TO BE FAIR AND IN MANY WAYS I THINK

  • FAIR AND IN MANY WAYS I THINK THE FACTS OF THIS CASE LEND TO

  • THE FACTS OF THIS CASE LEND TO ME BEING ABLE TO CHANGE PEOPLE’S

  • ME BEING ABLE TO CHANGE PEOPLE’S MINDS EVEN IF THEY COME IN WITH

  • MINDS EVEN IF THEY COME IN WITH A LITTLE BIT OF A PRECONCEIVED

  • A LITTLE BIT OF A PRECONCEIVED NOTION ON WHAT THEY THINK REALLY

  • NOTION ON WHAT THEY THINK REALLY HAPPENED HERE.

  • HAPPENED HERE. >> DO YOU THINK IT’S POSSIBLE

  • >> DO YOU THINK IT’S POSSIBLE THAT YOU MAY HAVE JURORS SITTING

  • THAT YOU MAY HAVE JURORS SITTING THERE WHO HAVE A PRECONCEIVED

  • THERE WHO HAVE A PRECONCEIVED NOTION AS TO INNOCENCE OR GUILT?

  • NOTION AS TO INNOCENCE OR GUILT? >> SURE.

  • >> SURE. I THINK IT’S DIFFICULT NOT TO.

  • I THINK IT’S DIFFICULT NOT TO. ESPECIALLY WHEN SOMETHING HAS

  • ESPECIALLY WHEN SOMETHING HAS HAD THE MEDIA COVERAGE THAT THIS

  • HAD THE MEDIA COVERAGE THAT THIS CASE HAS HAD AND THE WIDESPREAD

  • CASE HAS HAD AND THE WIDESPREAD COVERAGE IT’S HAD NATIONALLY AND

  • COVERAGE IT’S HAD NATIONALLY AND IN THE WORLD.

  • IN THE WORLD. I THINK IT’S UNREALISTIC FOR ME

  • I THINK IT’S UNREALISTIC FOR ME TO THINK PEOPLE DON’T AT LEAST

  • TO THINK PEOPLE DON’T AT LEAST HAVE SOME THOUGHT ON IT.

  • HAVE SOME THOUGHT ON IT. BUT, AGAIN, I THINK ONCE

  • BUT, AGAIN, I THINK ONCE PEOPLE -- IT’S DIFFERENT WHEN

  • PEOPLE -- IT’S DIFFERENT WHEN YOU READ A HEADLINE AND COME IN

  • YOU READ A HEADLINE AND COME IN WITH AN IDEA THAN WHEN YOURE

  • WITH AN IDEA THAN WHEN YOURE ACTUALLY SITTING IN A CRIMINAL

  • ACTUALLY SITTING IN A CRIMINAL COURTROOM AND LISTENING TO

  • COURTROOM AND LISTENING TO ACTUAL REAL EVIDENCE, LISTENING

  • ACTUAL REAL EVIDENCE, LISTENING TO WITNESSES TESTIFY, LISTEN TO

  • TO WITNESSES TESTIFY, LISTEN TO THEM BEING CROSS EXAMINED SO I

  • THEM BEING CROSS EXAMINED SO I THINK EVEN INITIALLY IF THERE’S

  • THINK EVEN INITIALLY IF THERE’S PEOPLE WHO HAVE PRECONCEIVED

  • PEOPLE WHO HAVE PRECONCEIVED IDEAS, HOPEFULLY IF WE CAN AT

  • IDEAS, HOPEFULLY IF WE CAN AT LEAST FIND ONES THAT ARE WILLING

  • LEAST FIND ONES THAT ARE WILLING TO BE FAIR EVEN IN SPITE OF

  • TO BE FAIR EVEN IN SPITE OF THOSE PRECONCEIVED NOTIONS THAT

  • THOSE PRECONCEIVED NOTIONS THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO CONVENTION

  • WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO CONVENTION THEM.

  • THEM. >> THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE,

  • >> THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE, INCLUDING ACCUSERS, WHO SEE THIS

  • INCLUDING ACCUSERS, WHO SEE THIS TRIAL AS BEING REPRESENTATIVE OF

  • TRIAL AS BEING REPRESENTATIVE OF SOMETHING MUCH LARGER THAN JUST

  • SOMETHING MUCH LARGER THAN JUST A TRIAL.

  • A TRIAL. HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE JOB

  • HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE JOB THAT YOU HAVE TO DO?

  • THAT YOU HAVE TO DO? >> IT CAN’T AFFECT THE JOB THAT

  • >> IT CAN’T AFFECT THE JOB THAT I HAVE TO DO.

  • I HAVE TO DO. I THINK I NEED TO DROWN OUT THE

  • I THINK I NEED TO DROWN OUT THE NOISE.

  • NOISE. I THINK THAT’S THE MOST

  • I THINK THAT’S THE MOST IMPORTANT WAY THAT I CAN GO

  • IMPORTANT WAY THAT I CAN GO FORWARD WHEN HANDLING THIS CASE.

  • FORWARD WHEN HANDLING THIS CASE. IF I ALLOW THAT TO SORT OF

  • IF I ALLOW THAT TO SORT OF PERMEATE MY ABILITIES OR THE

  • PERMEATE MY ABILITIES OR THE GOALS THAT WE HAVE IN MIND HERE,

  • GOALS THAT WE HAVE IN MIND HERE, I THINK THAT’S WHEN WE GET IN

  • I THINK THAT’S WHEN WE GET IN TROUBLE.

  • TROUBLE. I UNDERSTAND IT’S OUT THERE,

  • I UNDERSTAND IT’S OUT THERE, CLEARLY.

  • CLEARLY. I’M VERY WELL AWARE OF THE SORT

  • I’M VERY WELL AWARE OF THE SORT OF SOCIAL RAMIFICATIONS THAT

  • OF SOCIAL RAMIFICATIONS THAT THIS TYPE OF A CASE PLAYS.

  • THIS TYPE OF A CASE PLAYS. BUT FOR OUR PURPOSES, WHAT --

  • BUT FOR OUR PURPOSES, WHAT -- WHAT HAPPENS INSIDE THE FOUR

  • WHAT HAPPENS INSIDE THE FOUR WALLS OF THAT COURTROOM IS

  • WALLS OF THAT COURTROOM IS REALLY THE KEY.

  • REALLY THE KEY. THE KEY FACTOR FOR US.

  • THE KEY FACTOR FOR US. >> DO YOU THINK THEY HAVE A

  • >> DO YOU THINK THEY HAVE A STRONG DEFENSE?

  • STRONG DEFENSE? >> I DO.

  • >> I DO. I THINK WE HAVE A VERY STRONG

  • I THINK WE HAVE A VERY STRONG DERST.

  • DERST. DEFENSE.

  • DEFENSE. I THINK PEOPLE WILL BE SURPRISED

  • I THINK PEOPLE WILL BE SURPRISED ONCE THEY HEAR THE EVIDENCE COME

  • ONCE THEY HEAR THE EVIDENCE COME OUT.

  • OUT. >> WHY?

  • >> WHY? HOW CAN YOU BE SO CONFIDENT

  • HOW CAN YOU BE SO CONFIDENT ABOUT IT TODAY?

  • ABOUT IT TODAY? >> FIRST OF ALL, I THINK YOU

  • >> FIRST OF ALL, I THINK YOU HAVE TO BE CONFIDENT.

  • HAVE TO BE CONFIDENT. TOM BRADY DOESN’T GO TO THE

  • TOM BRADY DOESN’T GO TO THE SUPER BOWL AND SAY, I DIDN’T

  • SUPER BOWL AND SAY, I DIDN’T COME HERE TO WIN.

  • COME HERE TO WIN. YOU GO INTO THESE CIRCUMSTANCES

  • YOU GO INTO THESE CIRCUMSTANCES TO WIN.

  • TO WIN. SO I THINK FOR ME, YOU HAVE TO

  • SO I THINK FOR ME, YOU HAVE TO GO IN BELIEVING THAT YOU CAN WIN

  • GO IN BELIEVING THAT YOU CAN WIN BECAUSE WHY DO THAT IF YOU

  • BECAUSE WHY DO THAT IF YOU DON’T?

  • DON’T? BUT IN TERMS OF THE FACTS AND

  • BUT IN TERMS OF THE FACTS AND THE EVIDENCE AND THE WITNESSES

  • THE EVIDENCE AND THE WITNESSES AND STORIES THAT THEYVE TOLD IN

  • AND STORIES THAT THEYVE TOLD IN THE PAST AND THE WAY I THINK

  • THE PAST AND THE WAY I THINK THEYRE GOING TO COME ACROSS ON

  • THEYRE GOING TO COME ACROSS ON THE WITNESS STAND, I THINK WERE

  • THE WITNESS STAND, I THINK WERE IN A GOOD POSITION.

  • IN A GOOD POSITION. >> YOU SAID RECENTLY THAT YOU DO

  • >> YOU SAID RECENTLY THAT YOU DO NOT THINK HARVEY WEINSTEIN IS

  • NOT THINK HARVEY WEINSTEIN IS GUILTY OF RAPE.

  • GUILTY OF RAPE. THERE HAVE BEEN DOZENS OF

  • THERE HAVE BEEN DOZENS OF ACCUSERS.

  • ACCUSERS. HOW CAN YOU BE SO CERTAIN THAT

  • HOW CAN YOU BE SO CERTAIN THAT HE ISN’T GUILTY OF RAPE?

  • HE ISN’T GUILTY OF RAPE? >> I THINK MY CERTAINTY COMES

  • >> I THINK MY CERTAINTY COMES FROM THE EVIDENCE THAT I LOOK AT

  • FROM THE EVIDENCE THAT I LOOK AT AND THE COMMUNICATIONS THAT I

  • AND THE COMMUNICATIONS THAT I SEE THAT HARVEY HAS HAD WITH

  • SEE THAT HARVEY HAS HAD WITH WOMEN AND, YOU KNOW, SO FOR MY

  • WOMEN AND, YOU KNOW, SO FOR MY PURPOSES I LOOK AT THE LAW.

  • PURPOSES I LOOK AT THE LAW. I LOOK AT THE FACTS AND MAKE A

  • I LOOK AT THE FACTS AND MAKE A DETERMINATION BASED ON THOSE

  • DETERMINATION BASED ON THOSE THINGS.

  • THINGS. >> THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO

  • >> THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO MAY LOOK AT THE DEFENSE AS BEING

  • MAY LOOK AT THE DEFENSE AS BEING SOMEHOW AN ACCUSATION THAT ALL

  • SOMEHOW AN ACCUSATION THAT ALL OF THE ACCUSERS ARE LIES.

  • OF THE ACCUSERS ARE LIES. THAT ALL OF THESE STORIES ARE

  • THAT ALL OF THESE STORIES ARE SOMEHOW FABRICATED UNFAIRLY

  • SOMEHOW FABRICATED UNFAIRLY AGAINST HARVEY WEINSTEIN.

  • AGAINST HARVEY WEINSTEIN. IS HE GUILTY OF SOME OF THE

  • IS HE GUILTY OF SOME OF THE SEXUAL MISCONDUCT HE’S BEEN

  • SEXUAL MISCONDUCT HE’S BEEN ACCUSED OF?

  • ACCUSED OF? >> YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I’M HIS

  • >> YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I’M HIS CRIMINAL LAWYER AND FOCUSING ON

  • CRIMINAL LAWYER AND FOCUSING ON THE CRIMINAL CHARGES, BUT I’M

  • THE CRIMINAL CHARGES, BUT I’M HAPPY TO SAY THAT I DON’T THINK

  • HAPPY TO SAY THAT I DON’T THINK ANYONE IS TRYING TO COME OUT

  • ANYONE IS TRYING TO COME OUT INTO THE WORLD, COME OUT IN

  • INTO THE WORLD, COME OUT IN FRONT OF PRESS, COME OUT IN

  • FRONT OF PRESS, COME OUT IN FRONT OF A JURY, AND SAY THAT

  • FRONT OF A JURY, AND SAY THAT HARVEY WEINSTEIN DIDN’T MAKE

  • HARVEY WEINSTEIN DIDN’T MAKE MISTAKES OR THAT HARVEY

  • MISTAKES OR THAT HARVEY WEINSTEIN MADE BAD CHOICES.

  • WEINSTEIN MADE BAD CHOICES. AND SEXUAL MISCONDUCT IS

  • AND SEXUAL MISCONDUCT IS DIFFERENT THAN SEXUAL ASSAULT.

  • DIFFERENT THAN SEXUAL ASSAULT. SO WHEN WE HEAR, YOU KNOW, 80

  • SO WHEN WE HEAR, YOU KNOW, 80 WOMEN HAVE ACCUSED HARVEY OF

  • WOMEN HAVE ACCUSED HARVEY OF SEXUAL ASSAULT, THAT’S JUST NOT

  • SEXUAL ASSAULT, THAT’S JUST NOT TRUE.

  • TRUE. 80 WOMEN HAVE ACCUSED HARVEY OF

  • 80 WOMEN HAVE ACCUSED HARVEY OF A VARIETY OF THINGS, SOME BEING

  • A VARIETY OF THINGS, SOME BEING SEXUAL IN NATURE.

  • SEXUAL IN NATURE. SOME NOT BEING.

  • SOME NOT BEING. SOME BEING I DIDN’T GET TREATED

  • SOME BEING I DIDN’T GET TREATED NICELY AT WORK.

  • NICELY AT WORK. SOME, YOU KNOW, HE ASKED ME FOR

  • SOME, YOU KNOW, HE ASKED ME FOR A MASSAGE.

  • A MASSAGE. THERE’S A WHOLE PLETHORA OF

  • THERE’S A WHOLE PLETHORA OF DIFFERENT ALLEGATIONS THAT HAVE

  • DIFFERENT ALLEGATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE.

  • BEEN MADE. AND SO IT’S -- WE HAVE TO MAKE

  • AND SO IT’S -- WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT

  • SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT ALL, YOU KNOW, FROM TREATING

  • ALL, YOU KNOW, FROM TREATING SOMEONE POORLY AT WORK, TO

  • SOMEONE POORLY AT WORK, TO ASKING SOMEONE FOR A MASSAGE, TO

  • ASKING SOMEONE FOR A MASSAGE, TO RAPE, THERE’S A BIG JUMP THERE.

  • RAPE, THERE’S A BIG JUMP THERE. AND SO I ACTUALLY THINK THAT

  • AND SO I ACTUALLY THINK THAT SOME OF THIS PRESS, ONCE JURORS

  • SOME OF THIS PRESS, ONCE JURORS SIT IN A COURTROOM AND ACTUALLY

  • SIT IN A COURTROOM AND ACTUALLY LISTEN TO THE FACT THAT, OH,

  • LISTEN TO THE FACT THAT, OH, THERE ARE REALLY ONLY TWO

  • THERE ARE REALLY ONLY TWO CHARGED WOMEN HERE, I NEED TO

  • CHARGED WOMEN HERE, I NEED TO LOOK AT THIS A LITTLE MORE

  • LOOK AT THIS A LITTLE MORE SKEPTICALLY THAN I ORIGINALLY

  • SKEPTICALLY THAN I ORIGINALLY THOUGHT THAT I MAY HAVE TO.

  • THOUGHT THAT I MAY HAVE TO. SO IN SOME WAYS I THINK THAT

  • SO IN SOME WAYS I THINK THAT THAT MAY HELP US.

  • THAT MAY HELP US. >> WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE MOST

  • >> WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE MOST IMPORTANT MESSAGE YOU WANT TO

  • IMPORTANT MESSAGE YOU WANT TO GET ACROSS AS A DEFENSE

  • GET ACROSS AS A DEFENSE ATTORNEY?

  • ATTORNEY? >> I THINK FOR ME THE MOST

  • >> I THINK FOR ME THE MOST IMPORTANT MESSAGE I CAN GET

  • IMPORTANT MESSAGE I CAN GET ACROSS IS THE FACT THAT HARVEY

  • ACROSS IS THE FACT THAT HARVEY HAS A RIGHT TO A FAIR TRIAL.

  • HAS A RIGHT TO A FAIR TRIAL. AND NO MATTER WHAT YOU THINK

  • AND NO MATTER WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THE ALLEGATIONS THAT HAVE

  • ABOUT THE ALLEGATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN LEVIED AGAINST HIM, YOU

  • BEEN LEVIED AGAINST HIM, YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THE SYSTEM

  • HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THE SYSTEM OF JUSTICE IS BIGGER THAN HARVEY

  • OF JUSTICE IS BIGGER THAN HARVEY WEINSTEIN AND IF WE BELIEVE THAT

  • WEINSTEIN AND IF WE BELIEVE THAT HARVEY, HIMSELF, DOESN’T HAVE A

  • HARVEY, HIMSELF, DOESN’T HAVE A RIGHT TO A FAIR TRIAL, THEN

DECIDED TO TAKE ON WEINSTEIN’S DEFENSE.

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