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  • LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, FOLKS, MY NEXT GUEST IS THE JAMES BEARD

  • AWARD-WINNING CHEF WHO CREATED THE MOMOFUKU RESTAURANTS.

  • PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO "THE LATE SHOW," DAVID CHANG.

  • GOOD TO SEE YOU.

  • ♪ ♪ ♪ >> Stephen: NOW, SINCE LAST

  • YOU JOINED US, CONGRATULATIONS.

  • PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO DON'T KNOW YOU, YOU AND YOUR WIFE HAD A

  • BABY BOY.

  • >> HE JUST TURNED ONE, YEAH.

  • ( APPLAUSE ).

  • >> Stephen: CAN I-- DO I MIND IF I-- DO I MIND IF--

  • >> YES, PLEASE.

  • >> Stephen: WHAT'S HIS NAME?

  • >> Stephen: HIS NAME IS HUGO CHANG.

  • >> Stephen: HE LOOKS LIKE AN ASCENDED MASTER, IN SOME WAY.

  • >> IN THE ONE-YEAR BIRTHDAY IN KOREAN CULTURE, YOU CELEBRATE

  • WITH FRIENDS AND FAMILY AND IT'S A WHOLE CEREMONY AND IT JUST

  • HAPPENED ON SUNDAY.

  • >> Stephen: HAVING A WORLD-CLASS CHEF FOR A DAD,

  • WHAT'S THAT LIKE FOR HIM?

  • WHAT ARE YOU FEEDING THIS BOY?

  • IS IT JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, JUST DUMP SOME CHEEROS ON A TRAY

  • AND WALK AWAY?

  • >> I WISH.

  • >> Stephen: A BANANA.

  • >> I WISH IT WAS AS SIMPLE AS THAT.

  • I'VE TAKEN IT UPON MYSELF TO BASICALLY BE HIS PERSONAL CHEF,

  • AND I SPEND A CRAZY AMOUNT OF TIME PREPARING WHAT HE EATS FOR

  • BREAKFAST, LUNCH, AND DINNER.

  • >> Stephen: WHAT'S YOUR ANGLE?

  • HOW DO YOU JUDGE WHAT THIS CHILD SHOULD HAVE ON A DAILY BASIS?

  • >> I MAKE SOMETHING, AND IF HE LIKES IT I TRY TO CONTINUE TO

  • MAKE IT.

  • BUT YOU CAN ONLY DO IT FOR TWO OR THREE DAYS AND HE GETS TIRED

  • OF IT.

  • >> Stephen: HOW ADVENTUROUS DO YOU GET WITH A ONE-YEAR-OLD?

  • >> WELL, I GIVE HIM SORT OF A SOFT-BOILED EGG, BECAUSE I KNOW

  • PEOPLE MIGHT BE FREAKED OUT.

  • IF I GIVE HIM A HARD-BOILED EGG, HE'S NOT GOING TO EAT IT.

  • HE'S VERY PARTICULAR.

  • DURING LUNCH I TRY TO GIVE HIM AN ARRAY, HE LOVES AVOCADO.

  • DINNER IS TURKEY AND RICE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

  • >> Stephen: HE'S LUCKY IS WHAT HE IS.

  • >> I WANT TO EAT WHAT HE'S EATING.

  • >> Stephen: INSPIRED BY YOUR SON AND BEING A FATHER NOW, ON

  • YOUR SHOW, "UGLY DELICIOUS" IN THE NEW SEASON, YOU FOCUSED ON

  • WHAT CHILDREN EAT ALL AROUND THE WORLD, OKAY.

  • >> WE DID.

  • >> Stephen: WHAT DO CHILDREN HAVE IN COMMON?

  • >> UHM, I'VE LEARNED-- AND THIS IS NOT A SCIENTIFIC METHOD-- MY

  • CONCLUSION IS KIDS FROM AROUND THE WORLD ESSENTIALLY JUST WANT

  • TO EAT CHICKEN NUGGETS.

  • ( LAUGHTER ).

  • >> Stephen: IN EVERY-- IN EVERY CULTURE?

  • >> PRETTY MUCH EVERY CULTURE, YES.

  • >> Stephen: EVERYBODY'S GOT CHICKENS AND EVERYBODY'S GOT A

  • WAY TO FRY IT.

  • >> CORRECT.

  • >> Stephen: WOW.

  • ARE THERE NUANCES.

  • DO YOU HAVE A FAVORITE CHICKEN NUGGET FROM AROUND THE WORLD, OR

  • IS IT ALL BASICALLY GROUND UP, PRESSED INTO A PATTY, THROWN

  • INTO A FRYER.

  • >> THAT'S THE ONE UNIVERSAL THAT WILLITIZE US ALL TOGETHER.

  • >> Stephen: YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S IN THAT CHICKEN

  • NUGGET.

  • >> EXACTLY.

  • >> Stephen: YOU ALSO FILMED ANOTHER EPISODE ON STEAK.

  • >> YES.

  • >> Stephen: AND HOW PEOPLE LIKE IT PREPARED-- RARE,

  • MEDIUM-RARE, WELL DONE.

  • CAN YOU JUDGE SOMEONE BASED ON THE WAY THEY TAKE THEIR STEAK?

  • >> WELL, THAT WAS THE-- SORT OF THESIS OF THE EPISODE, "STEAK."

  • >> Stephen: YOU HAD A SUSPICION THAT YOU COULD DO

  • THAT?

  • >> I THOUGHT I COULD-- THIS IS A DUMB IDEA, TOO-- THAT I COULD

  • SORT OF FIGURE OUT WHO WAS A CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN IF THEY

  • ORDERED IT WELL DONE.

  • ( LAUGHTER ) BECAUSE TRUMP EATS TERRIBLY, AND

  • HE EATS EVERYTHING WELL DONE.

  • >> Stephen: SURE.

  • >> AND I THOUGHT IN MY DUMMY MIND, THEN EVERYBODY

  • CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN EATS STEAK THAT WAY.

  • >> Stephen: UH-HUH.

  • AND WHAT IS THE TRUTH?

  • >> THAT WAS ALSO A VERY DUMB THESIS.

  • NO, A LOT -- >> Stephen: NO PATTERN?

  • >> THERE'S NO PATTERN -- >> Stephen: OLD MEN?

  • YOUNG MEN?

  • WOMEN?

  • >> WHAT I LEARNED IS PRETTY EARLY ON, THE FILMING OF THE

  • EPISODE, WE LEARNED THAT OBAMA LIKES HIS STEAK MEDIUM TO

  • MEDIUM-WELL.

  • AND I THINK MEDIUM-RARE IS SORT OF THE WAY TO GO, IN MY OPINION.

  • >> Stephen: ME, TOO.

  • ( APPLAUSE ).

  • >> AND IT GETS ME REALLY ANGRY-- I PERSONALLY GET JUST FILLED

  • WITH RAGE WHEN I SEE SOMEONE ORDER A BEAUTIFUL CUT OF MEAT

  • DRY AGED 40-60 DAYS, AND THEY ORDER IT WELL DONE.

  • >> Stephen: IF I AM WITH SOMEONE-- AND I HAVE A DEAR

  • FRIEND WHO HAS THEIR STEAK, THE PERSON I'M MOST LIKELY TO GO GET

  • A BIG STEAK WACTUALLY, AND THIS PERSON-- AND YOU KNOW WHO ARE

  • YOU, BABY-- HE ORDERS-- HE ORDER HIS STEAK LIKE A HOCKEY PUCK.

  • AND I CAN'T ENJOY MY STEAK-- >> YEAH!

  • >> Stephen: SEEING THAT GRAY PIECE OF-- THAT SIDEWALK SLAB

  • THAT HE'S EATING.

  • >> YEAH!

  • >> Stephen: ACROSS FROM ME.

  • >> I MEAN, YOU-- YOU DON'T WANT TO JUDGE THIS PERSON, BUT YOU

  • HAVE NO CHOICE, RIGHT?

  • >> Stephen: RIGHT.

  • ( LAUGHTER ) ( APPLAUSE ).

  • >> YEAH.

  • >> Stephen: YES.

  • WHAT ELSE ARE THEY GETTING WRONG?

  • >> EXACT LIE.

  • >> Stephen: I CAN'T TRUST THIS PERSON.

  • >> IT'S THE SIMPLEST THING TO GET RIGHT.

  • HOW COULD THEY NOT GET IT RIGHT.

  • >> Stephen: THE FIRST RESTAURANT YOU OPENED-- WHAT

  • YEAR?

  • >> 2004.

  • >> Stephen: JUST 2004.

  • SO IN 16 YEARS YOU HAVE AN EMPIRE NOW.

  • THAT WAS CALLED THE NOODLE BAR?

  • >> MOMOFUKU NOODLE BAR.

  • >> Stephen: OKAY.

  • ( APPLAUSE ) IT HELPED POPULARIZE RAHMAN,

  • LIKE, NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, THE PACKAGE OF RAMAN, AND PORK BUNS

  • IN THE UNITED STATES.

  • WHAT IS-- WHAT FOOD IS OUT THERE THAT YOU WISH AMERICANS WOULD

  • TAKE-- NOT A RISK WITH, BUT, LIKE, TAKE A CHANCE ON?

  • >> WELL, THE FOOD THAT I'VE REALLY FALLEN IN LOVE WITH THAT

  • I HOPE IS EMBRACED BY THE ENTIRE WORLD IS MEANT THAT'S COOKED ON

  • A VERTICAL SPIT.

  • AND YOU SEE A LOT OF THAT IN TURKEY, BECAUSE THEY CREATED IT.

  • >> Stephen: WHAT DO YOU MEAN, LIKE--

  • >> SWHWARMAS -- >> Stephen: THE FLY

  • MERRY-GO-ROUND.

  • >> CORRECT.

  • >> UNFORTUNATELY IT'S BEEN RELEGATED AS A CHEAP EAT.

  • >> Stephen: RIGHT, STREET FOOD.

  • >> AND I DON'T THINK THAT IS, LIKE, A WORTHY SORT OF PLACE FOR

  • IT TO BE.

  • >> Stephen: THOUGH STREET FOOD IS NOT AN INSULT IN MY OPINION.

  • SOME OF THE STREET FOOD IS THE GREATEST IN THE WORLD.

  • >> IN FRENCH THEY HAVE A ROTISSERIE AND IT'S THE SAME

  • THING -- >> Stephen: IS IT BECAUSE IT

  • DOES THIS THAT IT'S BETTER?

  • THIS IS BOOD, THIS IS GOOD?

  • >> I THINK DELICIOUSNESS SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY, LIKE, YOU

  • KNOW, CONFINED-- IT SHOULDN'T BE CONFINED TO, LIKE, STUPID

  • CULTURAL THINGS.

  • AND, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE SOMETHING THAT WAS SORT OF BORN OUT OF THE

  • OTTOMAN EMPIRE OR JUST MOVED, AND YOU HAVE THE PASTOR TACO --

  • >> Stephen: THE WHAT?

  • >> THE PASTOR TACO.

  • HAVE YOU HAD THAT?

  • >> Stephen: I HAVEN'T.

  • >> IT'S ONE OF THE BEST TACOS OUT THERE.

  • IT'S A WAY OF EATING TACO S.

  • >> Stephen: WHAT IS THE WAY?

  • EDUCATE ME.

  • >> IT'S MARINATED IN SPICES AND A LITTLE CHILI AND RUB AND IT'S

  • USUALLY MADE OUT OF EXPORK A PINEAPPLE ON TOP --

  • >> Stephen: AND SLICED STACKED LIKE THIS.

  • >> MEXICO CITY HAS SOME GREAT ONES.

  • L.A. HAS SOME AMAZING PASTOR TACO SHOPS.

  • >> Stephen: IF I'M GOING ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD TO GET

  • VERTICAL MEAT, WHERE AM I GOING?

  • >> PEOPLE IN BEIRUT ARE GOING TO BE UPSET THEY SAY ISTANBUL.

  • >> Stephen: WHY?

  • >> THAT'S THE -- >> Stephen: THAT'S THE HOME OF

  • VERTICAL MAETS?

  • >> IT'S UNBELIEVABLE.

  • >> Stephen: THAT WOULD BE A GREAT NAME FOR A RESTAURANT HOME