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  • Unless you don't mind. 00:01:59.860 --> 00:02:1.560 Welcome of Hanno, everyone. 00:02:5.140 --> 00:02:6.880 So we have to get the job titles. 00:02:6.890 --> 00:02:7.770 Absolutely correct. 00:02:7.870 --> 00:02:8.590 Tom Gold. 00:02:8.650 --> 00:02:9.180 Exactly.

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  • Okay, so now we're all cozy.

  • I suppose this question is more aimed up.

  • You guys here love island as a Siri's.

  • What makes it so special and stand out from any other reality show on TV?

  • Because we have millions of I guess I think the subject matter is something that is so you can connect anyone that you like. 00:02:56.470 --> 00:03:1.170 It knows what it feels like to be in love, to fall in love and I think Love Island. 00:03:1.180 --> 00:03:13.360 You are watching over eight weeks to people wieners, but lots of people, everyone is falling in love in real time, and that's quite a special thing to watch when they all go in there, a singles.

  • There's that awful moment where you'll couple up on your kind of, you know, that instant, sort of.

  • If it was tender, you're swiping left or right as to who these people are in front of you on.

  • Then, in a week's time, you've got two people who are in love and hopefully more so I think that falling in love in real time is a really kind of strong thing that sets it apart from everything else.

  • Yeah, and do you remember, cause obviously it started ages ago.

  • There was a celebrity love island as well.

  • How much has it developed since then?

  • So that was in 2005 and then in 2015 we redeveloped it fry to be too.

  • And so the idea waas iTV to is a channel for 16 34 year olds.

  • And so the idea is, how do we re imagine love? 00:03:57.280 --> 00:04:2.050 Love Island was the format that everyone kind of slacked off of the time, but loved. 00:04:2.060 --> 00:04:4.090 So you go in and you try and picture all of these ideas. 00:04:4.310 --> 00:04:5.770 You got anything they don't like Love Island. 00:04:5.770 --> 00:04:9.820 And you go, we've got love on So they kind of safety and we like it. 00:04:9.820 --> 00:04:10.770 But it didn't do very well.

  • So anywhere I would be too said, How do you turn Love Island into or what can you do to attract this audience?

  • We said, We've got Love Island and we can totally read it Re imagine it for this audience.

  • Andi did that and we kind of pitched them.

  • A new version of it seems to have gone quite well in here is now.

  • Yeah, because I've been watching it, probably for the last three years.

  • And even since then, it's changed so much.

  • I feel like this last year or the year before, seeing how much it took over social media and just like you couldn't escape it.

  • That was the first conversation you have in the hair dresses when you're in a taxi like all you watch Love Island.

  • Oh, my God.

  • I love it.

  • And it completely took over.

  • When do you think that change came.

  • Why?

  • Why did it happen then?

  • And not before?

  • It's been a gradual thing, and I think you know any digital channels sort of takes a bit of time to get an audience to it. 00:04:59.750 --> 00:05:3.680 But you mentioned social Media, and that's been a huge part of the show on. 00:05:3.710 --> 00:05:7.580 It was something You're Tom and the other producers that were involved at the very beginning. 00:05:7.580 --> 00:05:15.190 We kind of thought, you know, this this is the medium And actually, when we pitched it, we kind of said, We don't want celebrities.

  • We want to create celebrities.

  • Celebrities for this audience exist on social media.

  • They don't exist as sort of in a traditional way in the way that we used to think about it.

  • You're sort of on.

  • We wanted to take people who kind of existed in that world or could exist in that world.

  • Put them on this platform and then, you know, then they become bigger and they do become celebrities and it becomes a bigger thing.

  • But I think you know that was that was really important.

  • Was putting social media at the heart of it.

  • On dhe that has just grown each year we're gonna touch on social media bit more in a bit.

  • But, Caroline, when you joined the show 2015 joint.

  • Yeah.

  • How was that for you?

  • Did you know, initially in your mind this is gonna be a massive bang? 00:05:55.730 --> 00:06:0.030 Or was it kind of women are in about How did you feel when you got No, I mean, it was a no brainer. 00:06:0.210 --> 00:06:1.390 As soon as this, I'd love my links. 00:06:1.390 --> 00:06:8.650 I watch, but actually, I couldn't do it because I was doing X factor the time, um, agent says you've been offered to do love Island, but we're not going to fit in. 00:06:8.650 --> 00:06:9.900 And I was like, Well, can't we try? 00:06:9.900 --> 00:06:10.640 And he's like, No.

  • And I kept going back to him.

  • Well, I think I'd rather be Oh, no.

  • You got to act like, what can we try?

  • And we really did.

  • Went back and forth, back and forth, and then we managed to it.

  • Simon Calvary, kindly let me have a few days off.

  • Nice and unusual.

  • But I've worked with these guys before on one of my first live TV shows, and it was doing the jungle.

  • And when you work with a team, like this.

  • You always fight to get back to work from beginning to end The best on Dhe.

  • I knew the show was gonna be reactive.

  • I knew the show was gonna be live on DDE.

  • That's the kind of thing I like to invest.

  • And it was about love.

  • Yes, I wanted to do that as well.

  • And I think you touched on earlier when people relate to the love side of things.

  • But I think also people really relate to the heartbreak side of Love Island And people are also having their heart broken.

  • And you watch you think, Hold on.

  • I've been through that and I feel like that's yeah, yeah, you're connecting with everybody and everybody.

  • Yeah.

  • Do you get any chance to speak to the contestants? 00:06:59.660 --> 00:07:2.160 Are Islanders back like when we don't see on camera? 00:07:2.170 --> 00:07:9.440 No, no, don't go in with what you see on what was nice, actually, from season to season one, I never went into the villa. 00:07:9.450 --> 00:07:17.600 It was always they always came out to May and actually really helps going into the villa because part off, I guess when they come out is that they trust me.

  • I think that's really important, isn't it?

  • So when you come out, eyes is really important.

  • To have that trust, not just with the audience and the viewers but with the island is because they got be able to talk to you, not being scared of.

  • You think you're gonna kind of ask them intimidating questions?

  • You know what the show is about?

  • So, yes, it's nice to go into Villa.

  • No, you didn't get the moment.

  • Some people Oh, no, Caroline's coming.

  • What happened now?

  • Way they used to Chairman of Hwe Grudges.

  • Because being in the village, you Do you have any idea when she's coming in and kind of minding your once I was in the David.

  • Well, I would just like it just comes out. 00:07:59.820 --> 00:08:7.990 Just having a Sunday interruption on in terms of when your film in the eliminations and everything like that is that completely live. 00:08:7.990 --> 00:08:10.720 What you have to stop and start is their discussions in between.

  • Two people get taken out at any point.

  • No, I have to, you know, have one chance to deliver that news.

  • You can't deliver news twice.

  • No, it's impossible, which is the beauty of live TV.

  • But obviously you have to private moments.

  • I have to you know, you've seen it.

  • I let you can't live with you.

  • Give it away So I walk in I've got my head's out, e I have a serious head up his heart to have to be tense And it's not very nice.

  • And there was a time This shit is when you walked him lattes and custom or I know he's gonna walk back in But I can tell the O t.

  • O.

  • Because it must be enjoyed knowing what's gonna happen and seeing the reactions of the island doesn't be like I just wanna give you a hug.

  • It's fine.

  • You're gonna be okay.

  • And two seconds.

  • You gotta hold it.

  • Absolutely.

  • I think season three with Camilla when she'd had a heart broken by Johnny Every girl who was watching that show I wanted to give her and including Maybe I don't have to walk in there and just know Helen.

  • How about the stats?

  • Everything that goes on behind the scenes.

  • How many cameras are in the villa?

  • This 73 cameras around Villa She shot you way Don't have s o u have you hide cameras which you really high end cameras.

  • So we will have four of those will have six positions.

  • But they will be for this a jib that we will move across the film challenges each day.

  • Then we have lots of, like small cameras, hidden cameras, your little cool of the pool cam that you see symptoms of the technical sets up.

  • Yeah, that start with the first wave.

  • Bingo. 00:09:56.890 --> 00:10:6.740 So for us, in terms of, you know, from a tech rig point of view Well, first of all, with taken an existing villa that is a lovely German family's pride and joy. 00:10:7.840 --> 00:10:12.560 So it actually lived in before they go, absolutely done is back.

  • To which it is done is very beautiful.

  • That's awesome.

  • Amazing rustic stone that everything has to be put back.

  • Exactly it So you can't just, you know, a typical TV studio.

  • You be drilling holes left, right and centre.

  • This we have to really respect.

  • So we extend the villa.

  • But we have to put it back afterwards.

  • That's a challenge in itself.

  • And then in terms of the footprint, we can only have a small amount of people based it.

  • Vila.

  • So we have the gallery the cameras.

  • The challenge team on, then four kilometers away in a little village?

  • Well, actually a concrete factory.

  • It's very unglamorous way feed all the material by microwave link to basically our production base on day. 00:10:54.820 --> 00:11:5.850 We have a very unglamorous Apparently, we've bought New York out of port cabins way have a ll these court cabins where we have a production team, we have the edit suite. 00:11:6.140 --> 00:11:9.390 We have an art department, You know the workshop they are building a ll. 00:11:9.390 --> 00:11:10.430 The challenges that you see.

  • So it's a it's a massive set up.

  • And then you also competing with, you know, your weather.

  • We have lightning storms, as we know in New Yorker, be boiling.

  • Had to create little hoods for the cameras because they were overheating.

  • How do you do that when there is a storm on your obviously film?

  • And every day you just ride for because I don't remember really seeing any rainy days on the show.

  • Begin?

  • Yeah, it often is one.

  • Remember?

  • Right, Right.

  • The cameras have little rain jackets.

  • Well, but we have a Really there's a really delicate points.

  • To what point?

  • We think a lightning storm is too near and it's all to do with distance away.

  • And at times, you know, we would have to shut power down.

  • But fortunately, we've never We've never got to that.

  • And how many people are inside while they're asleep and stuff. 00:11:56.730 --> 00:12:6.340 So they're in Total is about 200 of crew who work across the series of every like, yeah, yeah, just in terms of I think that's the thing. 00:12:6.340 --> 00:12:19.540 It's, you know, something like that would be challenging in itself in the UK But you've got, you know, you've got New York in team, you've got a UK team, and it's just, you know, the welfare of looking after people who are working away from home.

  • A lot of people have been there for three or four months, so you know that Will, you know, there's a lot of infrastructure that goes with it.

  • Yeah, because I was gonna ask about the UK team as well.

  • How How involved today.

  • How much?

  • How often you in communication with them?

  • Every single cell.

  • So, yes.

  • So I I only go out for a little bit more of a supervisor.

  • A continent credit, but we will, you know, we are in touch a lot we have.

  • What's that's going on all the time?

  • Where were you know they would way have a little core team in the UK who will be always lazing with in terms of what bombshells going into the villa.

  • Are there any issues that need to be ironed out? 00:12:57.810 --> 00:13:2.120 Two extra people need to fly out, and then we obviously have here after some team as well. 00:13:2.190 --> 00:13:4.410 Yeah, and how'd you go about choosing a team like that? 00:13:4.420 --> 00:13:8.220 Is that people that you using years before you can hunt out for new talent? 00:13:8.230 --> 00:13:18.960 Wait, there's a really tried and tough trusted team that we work with, and it's really helpful and useful that they've worked in these reality shows before, particular on location.

  • And it's amazing to be able to have a team that can really hit the ground running, but at the same time as well.

  • It's also good to get you blood in new perspective to keep it fresh and also to offer, you know, career progression so that, you know, someone can start off a certain level and come back the next year with with more responsibility, a lot of people to oversee, isn't it Yeah, e o thio Cast in, which is obviously massive.

  • I don't know.

  • Is there anyone in the audience that would want to go on Love Island?

  • The way you go about the process. 00:13:52.990 --> 00:14:1.040 Because that's essentially one of the most important thing you have to show cast in and, you know and how in demand is now, there's gonna be a lot of people that just want to go on for your follower side. 00:14:1.040 --> 00:14:5.800 But then the people that genuinely want to find love as well how'd you decipher who's there for what? 00:14:6.100 --> 00:14:7.620 Basically just taught me for the whole process. 00:14:7.630 --> 00:14:10.650 Yeah, well, obviously we open the application process.

  • We opened it at the end of the final that Jack and Danny one life.

  • Wait, wait, get inundated.

  • Now we've got to a stage where last year we had over 100,000 people apply on bond.

  • I would anticipate Maur this time around, but we do go out and approach people as well.

  • So we will contact people through Instagram through social media casting team will go out and meet people.

  • They will goto clubs, they go to shopping centers, they'll go out, look for people as well they'll contact modeling agencies, extra agencies.

  • All sorts of people basically try any route that we can to find people.

  • But then, once that contact has been made, then the process is the same for everybody.

  • So then they're invited to apply. 00:14:57.280 --> 00:15:0.250 They'll come in for an initial audition with the casting team. 00:15:0.750 --> 00:15:9.730 Then we the exact producing team, will watch those initial auditions and then decide who we think we'd like to meet on. 00:15:9.740 --> 00:15:16.160 Then people will meet with us on then that through that process, we sort of whittle it down.

  • Actually, quite a big pool.

  • Yeah.

  • What kind of questions are being asked in those audition stages?

  • Is it like Okay, how many boyfriends every could you give us?

  • Three key thing is, basically, you are obviously looking for people who are big personalities who you know will go into the villa on DDE can sort of hold their own in what is an incredibly intense environment.

  • But you are also looking for people who are going to be open and honest about their feelings, and that is absolutely essential.

  • We didn't have that.

  • If we didn't have people who were willing to open up to us then we wouldn't be able to make the show because we ask so much of you guys from that point of view. 00:15:54.270 --> 00:16:2.050 So a lot of questions that we ask it gonna be, You know, Are these people comfortable talking about their love lives doing, You know, why did you break up with your last boyfriend? 00:16:2.220 --> 00:16:4.020 What's the most embarrassing date you've ever been on? 00:16:4.030 --> 00:16:15.200 All of the things that you would expect us to us to really get inside and get an understanding of, you know, these people's relationship history and what makes them tick and how they think they might be in the villa.

  • We wanted to fall in love.

  • Yeah, they have to be ready at that point.

  • It's not about coming in and, you know, putting another notch on the bedpost.

  • We want people to come in on dhe, genuinely want to fall in love.

  • You have your audition going to work.

  • I just want to try to be Really I don't know.

  • You know what's doing?

  • You went there.

  • It was like a chaplain.

  • I hope so.

  • But our feelings now yet about your life Really, Andi, how many questions you remember feeling like I still have to pretend.

  • Or were you completely yourself, Oscar myself?

  • I can't do anything. 00:16:58.820 --> 00:17:7.230 I mean, it's just talking about literally, like Like, you don't past love life and stuff that did you ever have in your mind going in like I came? 00:17:7.230 --> 00:17:8.760 My life is absolutely gonna change. 00:17:8.760 --> 00:17:16.660 Is there anything I need to hold back or we just gonna like techniques that you have opened yourself?

  • Yeah.

  • And in terms of people being the actual casters and they are quite supportive throughout the process, aren't they?

  • So they trying to find out your personality, but they're going to support you through the whole process of it.

  • How involved are you after you've actually cast the people massively.

  • So I mean, you know, we spend a lot of time chatting Thio.

  • Anyone who's gonna go into the villa about exactly what to expect from it.

  • Andi casting team become really good thing.

  • Yeah, and I think that relationship is so important.

  • And then that continues.

  • Once they're in the villa as well.

  • Yes.

  • You know, there is interaction with producers within the villa, and that's really important. 00:17:57.360 --> 00:18:0.420 And you guys need to feel supported while you're in there. 00:18:1.340 --> 00:18:14.170 on that with those relationships that have been built up over the time from the point of the first audition come into play and that's how we sort of look after them and you got a mate for life then g still in touch with any of the people that you met on the show.

  • That stage like behind the scenes.

  • Yeah.

  • Wait, Don't know their numbers.

  • If you don't have one.

  • I think it's a statue.

  • Teams are big and in times the cost in There was some criticism based on diversity and the villa and maybe different shapes and sizes, body image, race.

  • Except how did you guys deal with that?

  • And do you feel that there be any change?

  • The future?

  • I mean, we you know, when we set out, I suppose there are lots of subjects that you've sort of included in that.

  • But I think what What?

  • We try and do it. 00:18:56.170 --> 00:19:3.950 First and foremost, we're casting for personality, and we want people that are, you know, eight weeks of television. 00:19:4.030 --> 00:19:8.010 The people that we put in there have to be interesting, have to be a hold your attention for that amount of time. 00:19:8.390 --> 00:19:13.210 But also, you know, we are creating a sort of slightly aspirational world on.

  • There is no denying that everyone that goes in there is good looking on dhe, but also importantly, they fancy one another.

  • You know, you have to have a group of people that are all kind of going to wantto to date one another.

  • So in terms of the looks, we don't really you know, we got a lot of criticism in the fact that we don't cast people.

  • You know, her perhaps slightly different body shapes are slightly different.

  • I think we try to and we do, you know, And I think if you were to go back over all of the series, you'll find that people there are lots of there is a variety, but everyone is good looking in terms of diversity.

  • We try and cast the most diverse cast that we can, you know.

  • And I think if you look back over the whole series and the people that go in there now there are it was a diverse cast.

  • I'd love it to be more diverse on.

  • I think we struggle sometimes to attract people from certain backgrounds, and we're always working on that and a lot of our team on a lot of the team that we employ within the casting team, our divers as well, because we're trying to tap into a CZ many different groups as we can.

  • But ultimately we can only go from the pool of people that apply.

  • Apply if you want to be on the show way.

  • I don't read it, just such on how supportive everybody is before you go into the show.

  • But what kind of process do you go through with that?

  • Because, I mean, it does change people's lives completely in terms of preparing to be in the press.

  • And I don't like Internet backlash or anything like that.

  • What's the process with preparing people?

  • Yes, So we, um, obviously they are custom t really talk about what the impact is likely to be taking part in the show. 00:20:54.860 --> 00:21:5.870 We also have a team that will also look over previous social media posts at least kind of from the last five years and more just to think, is there anything in there that you could come out? 00:21:5.990 --> 00:21:8.610 So we take very seriously. 00:21:8.620 --> 00:21:11.640 We've got a duty of care to protect everyone And is it appropriate?

  • Then we have you have a medical test.

  • You meet with our consultant, Dr Andi.

  • Also, we have a psychoanalyst who will also meet and assess and look att appropriate.

  • Is it the right things at the right fit?

  • Is there gonna be any negative impacts?

  • And so we really talk it through, and then we keep in touch.

  • We have a real small core team who will always be talking about welfare on dhe.

  • We have on site a medical team and also the psychoanalyst as well.

  • And she will be always watching what's going on in the show.

  • Are there any signs?

  • Does she need to kind of check in on then?

  • I think you would say as well that when you kind of leave you, then have a debrief conversation with the team.

  • Are press team really supportive again about all their numbers? 00:21:58.540 --> 00:22:2.950 Yeah, and then it's just about always keeping in touch when we have you know something. 00:22:3.030 --> 00:22:7.630 Some of our team will just be sort of monitoring people social media and think the okay. 00:22:7.640 --> 00:22:13.450 I think we need to just check in and we offer up follow up chats or conversations throughout.

  • It doesn't really sort of.

  • And we just like to always keep in touch.

  • Yeah, so you're fully support the whole time.

  • It really?

  • Yeah, really, on every aspect.

  • Still support now left in the loaded onto storytelling on the stories that you choose to follow throughout the whole thing because you always forget watching the show that it's actually born in 24 hours.

  • But you only showing our squashing everything down to an hour knowing that there's these people talking the whole time.

  • I'm sure there's loads of things that happen who decides what get gets put into the show and and what gets cut out?

  • It's very much a team process, you know.

  • It starts in the gallery. 00:22:51.990 --> 00:23:3.710 You've got a story producers, gallery producers who are watching everything that these guys do that is, then fed back over to the Edit Suite, a two concrete factory on dhe. 00:23:3.720 --> 00:23:19.800 That's where the discussion between the gallery and the edit is where the sort of first stage of working out right, which stories we're gonna focus on today, a CZ exact producers, where then included in that discussion, and we sort of map out where we think that they might go on then.

  • Obviously we follow because things always take a different path to what we expect.

  • So it's a sort of constant feedback loop, really, between the villa and also the thing.

  • The other thing that we've got which does make us different from other reality shows is we do have producers in the villa and that allows us to sort of allows an interaction with the Islanders, which is really crucial to us.

  • It also allows us to get a sense of what's going on that we wouldn't otherwise get if you guys just came into the beach hut and our only interaction with you is in the beach, huh? 00:23:54.750 --> 00:24:4.340 I think we get a very different view to the fact that there are producers who do chat to you who, you know after breakfast, might sit down with Danny and just find out. 00:24:4.340 --> 00:24:6.050 What is she thinking today? 00:24:6.060 --> 00:24:8.250 You know, how is she feeling about Jack? 00:24:8.260 --> 00:24:9.890 What does she want to happen next? 00:24:9.890 --> 00:24:14.840 All of that kind of thing on Davila producer feeds into the gallery into the editors.

  • Well, so all of the team are basically discussing all the time trying to work out on the off Rick team as well.

  • Who were the team that takes people out on dates and things like that?

  • So it's a sort of ongoing process that never ends because you always wonder watching today, it's because you get started.

  • Everybody's lives you for you know everything about from what ate for breakfast dinner.

  • I don't see that we made that decision in Series one, absolutely, that we weren't going to be interested in that side of their lives.

  • That is very much something.

  • And Big Brother did it have done it for years?

  • Brilliantly.

  • But that is not what we're interested in.

  • Everything that we every story that we cover has has something to do with relationships, whatever that might be. 00:24:58.830 --> 00:25:0.520 But everything comes back to love. 00:25:0.540 --> 00:25:4.170 Yeah, so does that mean when they are having breakfast and stuff, you have to interrupt their conversations? 00:25:4.170 --> 00:25:21.440 If they're saying too much or what they say that I think that the island is kind of get into a habit of down Time Toasties Popular E.

  • I love you.

  • What's actually in the kitchen?

  • What?

  • Your options for breakfast stuff sometimes Just ask you what you want.

  • What was your breakfast.

  • I used to have every card.

  • I want tires to scrabbled eggs.

  • Lovely time on toast.

  • Because if you get a bit later, you'd eat your breakfast and lunch coming from Yeah.

  • Yeah.

  • You are any good?

  • If I see anything, I'll just switch every day. 00:25:54.420 --> 00:26:1.530 Yeah, I think it was in hiding in the villa. 00:26:1.540 --> 00:26:2.020 Amazing. 00:26:2.240 --> 00:26:6.870 On with the story of how much intervention did you have if something was going one way with you kind of interrupted? 00:26:6.880 --> 00:26:7.440 I don't know. 00:26:7.450 --> 00:26:8.360 Can you bring it? 00:26:8.370 --> 00:26:16.000 I mean, I think we've said this before that it's we will talk to the island, is about how they're feeling.

  • And so we will know what they're thinking.

  • You know, the conversations that they want tohave on to some extent, we will have a hand in when some of those conversations might happen.

  • But we absolutely never tell anyone what to say.

  • What to think, what to do.

  • So everything has to come from within, but, you know, way.

  • We've always been very open about the hand of the producer on the show.

  • You know, the voiceover in Stirling's voiceover acknowledges it most episodes, and you know where I I think that sort of takes the allows the audience to step back slightly from what?

  • There from what they're seeing.

  • And no, that is a produced reality show. 00:26:56.080 --> 00:27:5.110 We sort of sit somewhere between a more traditional reality show like Big Brother and I'm a celebrity at one end, and then the more constructed shows like Terry or George or made in Chelsea on the other end. 00:27:5.120 --> 00:27:23.090 We sit somewhere in the middle of that spectrum and s o we do you know all of the things that we do to make the show that the format twists that we put in the challenges that we put in the new arrivals that we throw in all designed very much to sort of affect the course of the narrative.

  • But in terms of what these guys, their reaction to those things are entirely there are.

  • And with the game, you're like, you have a good reaction throughout the thing.

  • Everything shows in the face.

  • I feel like I'm quite good at stone facing, but you will.

  • I don't think that way.

  • Love you with the challenges in the games, in the stunts who comes up with those and and how much thought goes into it before because you had some great ones in the previous years off whether they're gonna carry on to the new series or leave them alone completely. 00:27:59.170 --> 00:28:0.140 There was one that didn't come in. 00:28:0.140 --> 00:28:5.610 That was like, Oh, I loved it so much The talent show when they had to evolve, that was one of my favorite favorites. 00:28:5.740 --> 00:28:6.320 What made? 00:28:6.320 --> 00:28:9.250 And that was something that was on the board, you know, the way we work. 00:28:9.260 --> 00:28:18.300 It's unusual way, certainly not the way that I've worked on any other show where another shows you might go into a Siri's with a pretty good idea of what's gonna happen on any given day.

  • Don't do that at all.

  • On this show, we basically build up.

  • We spend our pre production way, have a challenge team who come up with all of these ideas, and we basically have on our office walls.

  • Ah, hole of challenges.

  • Ah, hole of potential new cast members.

  • Ah, whole lot of dates and off Rick events that we could do in a whole lot format to it's on.

  • We sit with a blank white board and just think right, what?

  • What now what's the best thing.

  • What challenge is the right thing to put in today?

  • Toe?

  • Try and push the narrative in a particular direction because the audience expect there to be constant drama, constant twists and turns.

  • And so we sort of have to react to what?

  • To the story lines that are coming out of the villa on. 00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:3.220 Then throw in whatever we think is the right thing at the right point. 00:29:3.270 --> 00:29:4.970 Yeah, you can't prepare for that. 00:29:4.980 --> 00:29:6.660 You that you're someone kicks off last night. 00:29:6.660 --> 00:29:7.780 Let's do a challenge that tested. 00:29:9.360 --> 00:29:14.100 Everything comes down to testing people as a couple that everything that we do is about that.

  • That's not having an armory.

  • And you're just choosing.

  • Write what?

  • You know.

  • What weapons gonna work today.

  • Try and test this law.

  • Jack and Danny.

  • What was your what were your favorite games and what were the one that tested you the most?

  • I know that castle more was kick off.

  • Yeah, guys and stuff.

  • I just think that twit not really annoyed.

  • Yeah, it's just people's opinions get bothered.

  • But you could say that.

  • Yeah, wait times but the other one 18 challenges that grows that they're funny because we talk about him all day that you need things to Just have a laugh.

  • You're not dressed in little tiny pants.

  • I know what you did.

  • I love you.

  • So come with no pants. 00:29:58.460 --> 00:30:3.620 Yeah, really Have a cliff, I think from the hot stuff. 00:30:3.630 --> 00:30:8.280 Challenge, if you please.

  • You know what?

  • You're gonna get a ll out.

  • Caramel action is a heart.

  • Give me more like where?

  • Oh, my God.

  • I think it was possible to fax us anymore than I already did. 00:30:55.740 --> 00:31:1.120 Waving it in my mind. 00:31:1.380 --> 00:31:1.930 Beautiful. 00:31:3.630 --> 00:31:5.020 So long car for five. 00:31:7.540 --> 00:31:9.290 It's a bit nerve wracking, but what's the hips? 00:31:9.290 --> 00:31:9.970 Start going?

  • You start getting into the river.

  • You know, suddenly I'm the door waiting from to save mai.

  • Waiting a long time if that was a real fire to burn to a crisp.

  • I don't know why I was doing that when I couldn't even say it was like having a smoke in the rain.

  • Very, very romantic Twice making it sexy as possible at work.

  • I don't know, but I'll give it a go.

  • I always come to get away pretty fast to the men.

  • On this day, I thought that it was the pants Oh, no. 00:32:7.950 --> 00:32:10.230 So hand a captain Danny.

  • What President?

  • Lover Eduardo, Three games were incredible.

  • I mean, watching them you to be like, come on on the slow motion effect and everything like that really made it.

  • Is it weird watching it back?

  • You see much of the show that what in someone else is when I first come out, I was like, Oh, I'm gonna get it on the slide on secretly.

  • Want anyone to die like a cream J Every watch the whole series.

  • And I watched a few of them that, like people recommended we saw on episodes.

  • And then after a while, you just don't depiction of stop it now.

  • That way, the first thing I didn't like that.

  • Oh, my gosh.

  • Is there a nip slip or anything? 00:32:58.080 --> 00:33:1.340 Watching it all back and going back to the new arrivals? 00:33:1.350 --> 00:33:7.670 Junior, having somebody new come into the villa was scary feeling where you more excited for new people? 00:33:7.960 --> 00:33:12.750 I mean, you two are kind of stable right from the beginning, so there wasn't too much concern, but I know for some of the other island.

  • Yeah, it's always gonna be scary when you get new arrivals at the beginning, it has become some exciting And, you know, the people that come in and out, you make friends, and it's great because you don't start thinking when you have to sit down in the cellar.

  • We get all hot on that.

  • Yeah.

  • So what's your type, then?

  • Irrigation?

  • Unless I told Darken Answer.

  • I think you good with questioning the new people.

  • You're right.

  • And they're making them feel it hard.

  • Yeah.

  • What is it that when you sign with you on when you went out of the villa as well as you go on your little shopping day?

  • How was that experience?

  • Did you have a massive security guards with you and stuff for New York people?

  • Pretty. 00:34:0.400 --> 00:34:4.470 Wait. 00:34:5.510 --> 00:34:6.880 How often did you leave the villa? 00:34:6.880 --> 00:34:8.880 Was that just a one time for the shopping trip? 00:34:8.880 --> 00:34:9.960 Oh, you're allowed out.

  • Just just Yeah.

  • Yeah, yeah.

  • Obviously, when you go to the challenge stage and stuff, I love that shopping trip.

  • Actually.

  • Remember memory future on.

  • And when the people were coming in and there was new New Island, I want customers.

  • New customers given new Islanders.

  • Did you find it easy to make the bonds or was it a bit kind of stiff?

  • Because, you know, there's so many cameras around, you know, that there's a bit of a pressure to maybe be like nice, then you don't want to show your side of life away from a man.

  • I'm always quiet.

  • I like people that I always want to get to know everyone.

  • Really?

  • You want to make him feel comfortable when we've already got about the cameras when they come in?

  • No, we're already comfortable with today, so I think it would kill you. 00:34:50.050 --> 00:35:3.530 If you don't calm down, you'll be on your way back to the storyline that I got tax situation. 00:35:3.600 --> 00:35:5.520 Do you know the text there before you shower? 00:35:5.530 --> 00:35:6.230 I've got texture. 00:35:6.230 --> 00:35:7.980 Is that actually right? 00:35:7.990 --> 00:35:9.460 In that moment, I have attacks. 00:35:9.480 --> 00:35:14.560 No, no, you just you just get text go.

  • Is that the texts?

  • And the show in there was different.

  • Varies of attack shouting across the villa.

  • When you do get that text, what's the feeling that goes for your mind?

  • It's never stop.

  • Please be good news.

  • Fingers crossed situations for Caroline, Back to you.

  • When you are coming in and nobody's expecting you, Do you have a talk with you.

  • Just gonna like except me.

  • Take me as I am coming in.

  • No, I get really excited because I'm watching the show like everyone else.

  • And I know that's gonna happen.

  • So I get really, really excited before we go in and I'm stand outside.

  • I've got air peace, and that's literally, like, right, 10 seconds. 00:35:47.490 --> 00:36:1.530 98 And then I walk in and these guys are like that, and yeah, I mean, it's a serious point in the show, but because I'm, you know, half presenter, definitely half fewer for may I get really start with all the islands. 00:36:1.530 --> 00:36:3.890 And the more I get to know them, the more exciting You'd be the same. 00:36:3.890 --> 00:36:4.110 Yeah. 00:36:4.120 --> 00:36:5.900 Yeah, it is a really exciting moment. 00:36:6.260 --> 00:36:9.950 But like I say, I have one chance to do it and to live that news and then get right out.

  • I suppose the most exciting is I don't know what I'm gonna go in.

  • Yeah, I'll be at home, eat my corn flakes, and I'll certainly other texts.

  • And I've gotta tell you, you need to be at the villa tonight.

  • She's got, you know, a bombshell to drop because I saw you like flying back tonight and then you're back in and you're up and down the whole time.

  • You are pretty much a jet set for the whole of the series.

  • Pretty much sometimes I can go to mix up going in, but I think it's, you know, I think it's gonna be a surprise.

  • I think if I went in every Thursday, everyone calm, one's going in.

  • It's quite nice when it's Prise s.

  • Oh, it's as much a surprise for me is for those guys and Ian's involvement.

  • Obviously, he's a massive part of the show.

  • He's absolutely had areas.

  • How much does he put into the script?

  • Is he writes, some of their Or is it?

  • Yeah, he's part of the writing process.

  • There's basically in.

  • And then there's Mark Cowley, who is our sort of script writer. 00:36:57.430 --> 00:37:9.800 On together, it's too quiet, grumpy Scottish people who basically locked in a porta cabin, looking at everything and trying to find the worst thing they could say about everyone on everything.

  • And then we turned them down on these guys, tell them down and then on.

  • Then their script goes on, but basically their job, you know so much analysis is done on Love Island, but actually it's an entertainment show on the idea is that for everyone that's watching, it's a little break from whatever your reality is that you could go and watch it and you can have some fun.

  • And there's so many big themes that brought out of Love Island.

  • But actually we're an entertainment show, and their job is to sort of poke fun at the whole process.

  • You know, it is fun.

  • It is slightly ludicrous that you put these people in, and then they do re coupling and dumping and all the rest on its fantastically three emotional bonds are really, really strong.

  • But we quite like toe have at its heart a little bit of fun and a little bit of lewd.

  • It's ludicrous.

  • Lie detector is that the voice ever will say we bought it off Amazon Flight 10. 00:37:59.270 --> 00:38:0.190 You're right, you know. 00:38:0.190 --> 00:38:1.380 And then it was all hand. 00:38:1.380 --> 00:38:7.010 Factual is a lie detector just about was sending ourselves up to some extent. 00:38:7.350 --> 00:38:8.650 Yeah, I think that's what makes the show. 00:38:8.650 --> 00:38:14.610 Even the fact that it is light hearted and you do have a laugh is well, is feeling so connected to the island as you go through heartbreak.

  • But you are pissing yourself pretty much Vivian and everything else onto social media and the fan feedback and everything.

  • I'd say the last series before this one was when it really got massive online and you couldn't escape every every time it was on.

  • It was trend in.

  • My whole timeline would be about Love Island like it was insane.

  • I don't Wasn't it the most tweeted about show ever?

  • Incredible.

  • So that's that's massive.

  • How do you guys control of that?

  • Did you know you were going to be O?

  • It's insane like it's what Obviously, social media is getting bigger and bigger by the year by the day.

  • But when you're actually in in your you're a show that's so huge and based on that so entirely, how much do you add that to the show? 00:38:57.360 --> 00:39:0.510 Like, Do you do things knowing that it's gonna be big online? 00:39:0.510 --> 00:39:8.740 Or is it just do your show and then I think you just have to kind of carry on with what you want to do and making the show the way that we want to make it.

  • Let's social media do what it wants to do.

  • I don't think you could, Theo, Only thing I would say.

  • And it's the only show where this is possible because it's fast turnaround.

  • It means that you sort of get instant feedback every night.

  • So a show would go out, you'd see what the reaction was on social and then actually that can then play into your planning for the next day.

  • And that's really helpful.

  • That might be that You sort of see where people think you're gonna go next.

  • Well, what they think we're gonna do next and we do it.

  • Or it might be the exact opposite of that where people we're all speculating that well, obviously they're going to do this next and so because we know that we do The exact opposite it is from that view is a really useful tool.

  • But I think in terms of all the sort of the controversy, easy because sport, Caroline says, Everyone has such strong opinions about it, and they're Everyone recognizes the things that they see happening, the heartbreak that they see in the way that people are behaving that they're going toe put the strength of that opinion online.

  • Andi sort of just have to stand back from it.

  • I think people think about social media for us.

  • Is that you know, normally with a TV show you exist for an hour, the hour you're on air, you exist.

  • People sort of talk about it within that time.

  • But with social media on, because we embrace it so much and we've got we've got a digital team that are embedded within the production and in the same way that sort of Marconi and are sort of looking at the show and thinking about how they come right from a script point of view.

  • Our digital team would do exactly the same thing, and they're looking at the show, and they're trying to pick out bits that they can either seed in advance of the show going out that night.

  • So we'll do an edit in the morning on, then there.

  • Look at that edit and they'll cut together a first look clip that then goes out on basically everyone you know. 00:40:53.210 --> 00:41:0.130 Some of those clips were getting like 2,000,003 million people watching it, and you're kind of that's great marketing for the show. 00:41:0.370 --> 00:41:5.480 But it's also keeping that conversation alive for the 23 hours that went on there. 00:41:5.600 --> 00:41:7.880 Yeah, so we put stuff out there. 00:41:7.980 --> 00:41:9.900 But then the conversation just happens.

  • Mostly, Carol Biggest is insane.

  • I don't think I've ever in my whole social media life seen a show have such a big reaction ever like I'm 24 years old and I feel like everybody from my age, my mom's age.

  • Even my nan, who Swedish she barely knows.

  • She was obsessed with that as well.

  • And it's It's incredible.

  • It's massive.

  • How did you guys find it being a part of it and knowing that you are topics of conversation during the show, Caroline especially cause you can see it coming on.

  • I suppose you guys, I mean, from a professional point of view, the Social media site.

  • It's because I use it to tease the sheriff.

  • I I watched the show before.

  • It goes out when I know it's gonna be a good one.

  • You know, I'll put out that you've got to tune in tonight.

  • So and so is gonna happen. 00:41:53.100 --> 00:42:2.800 From a personal point of view, I get really defensive when I see anything negative written about any of the island is cause I feel like they're my family. 00:42:2.800 --> 00:42:4.300 Yeah, especially the girls. 00:42:4.500 --> 00:42:6.610 So I really have to hold myself back with. 00:42:6.610 --> 00:42:9.410 And I've learned that through my career it is always best just to say nothing. 00:42:9.420 --> 00:42:13.410 Yeah, actually, I'm more qualified in that than love when they come out.

  • I'm very giving that advice.

  • I remember saying to Terry in serious too.

  • Don't reply.

  • You're gonna come out when it's gonna be so much stuff in online.

  • The best thing to do don't reply.

  • And with love, I won't give you that.

  • It is really important.

  • You know, the chap that surround the show, as it as important as to show itself is pretty.

  • Um, yeah, and Jack and Danny.

  • And I suppose you know that it's gonna be massive, and you know that there's a lot of people watching, but there's nothing that can really prepare you for how many people are gonna be talking about you.

  • Imagine you and how was that feeling coming out and actually turning your phones on for the first time?

  • That was scary when you first heard you fighting.

  • You know, you just have to not get so addicted to it.

  • I think that you just think tonight put your phone down sometimes because it can become like what they sound about me. 00:42:57.380 --> 00:43:4.090 And it does, Is it, like people are so lovely and so supportive, Even make you feel amazing. 00:43:4.140 --> 00:43:7.640 But then people could make you feel all Fela's well, when it really does affect Joe. 00:43:7.910 --> 00:43:8.530 So you just have to. 00:43:8.530 --> 00:43:12.660 Sometimes I think you just don't reply, because you just your initial reaction.

  • You wouldn't be.

  • Oh, you think?

  • No.

  • Get Harry, just fly.

  • You just have to just put it down and focus on every people matter.

  • 100%.

  • Same of you, Jack.

  • Yeah, it's weird.

  • Like that could be 100.

  • Lovely comments.

  • One.

  • It's not nice.

  • You look at that one.

  • Yeah, you go route.

  • I have read your maid.

  • Yeah, on going onto the app that that did really well as well.

  • And that's kind of like a new addition more than the older Siri's who came up with that idea how from the first has been from the first series.

  • And it was, you know, again, that was a part of the rethinking of the show.

  • 2015. 00:43:58.550 --> 00:44:5.480 When we come back, you know the way that the audience that we were trying to connect with connects with the world is through their phone. 00:44:5.770 --> 00:44:12.220 So traditionally we'd done sort of voting vice sort of people would ring up and order those phone numbers.

  • We wanted a free app where people could just vote and we pretty much just got a free app to vote on on the first show because that's what we could afford.

  • But we wanted to evolve on its evolved sort of in line with all of the social media and united with digital.

  • And so each year it gets bigger and better, and there's sort of more on there.

  • There was a shop on this year.

  • You could buy the water, you know, and you could see all the clips you could follow you for a Jack and Danny's story.

  • From the beginning, there was a kind of a whole montage of all of that, for each couple in each island is thinking, Yeah, have a look at your love story eyes.

  • So I was really, really important.

  • And I think that was quite so that was really important to us.

  • And we had to struggle quite hard because no one wants to pay for a nap on it. 00:44:57.310 --> 00:45:2.710 Sort of w

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