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  • -Welcome to the show. -(exhales) Thank you so much.

  • And congratulations on a whirlwind ride.

  • This movie is... so highly anticipated,

  • and yet, at the same time,

  • we know nothing about it.

  • Like, nothing.

  • Like, normally, when I'm gonna do, like, an interview,

  • they might send me the movie beforehand.

  • And then I was like, "Yo, Disney." And they're like, "No."

  • No, Din-- Disney, they're true ninjas.

  • They're just like, "We're not gonna tell you anything,

  • -but you're always gonna wonder." -Right.

  • Are they strict like that with you as well?

  • 'Cause I've heard, like, some actors,

  • they won't even give the full movie.

  • They'll just give you, like, the parts that you're in,

  • and then you don't even know what the movie is.

  • Yeah. So, strangely enough,

  • so, we-- I mean, I read the script, the entire thing.

  • -Aw, man. -But then... (laughs)

  • I know everything. (laughs)

  • But, truly, I mean, when you're shooting these scenes,

  • it's so piece-y, if that makes sense,

  • and it sort of changes as you're going.

  • -So sometimes you don't really know how it's gonna end up. -Oh.

  • So, do you think-- Like, have they shot multiple--

  • Or is there, like-like, a possibility

  • that you don't even know what the movie is,

  • so if you go watch the movie, you'd be like,

  • "I think it..." and then you don't know?

  • Uh, I think that's possible. I did see it last week.

  • -Oh, you've seen it? -Yeah, I have seen it. Yeah. (laughs)

  • I hated you, and now I'm over it.

  • It is-- it is pretty epic how your life turned.

  • I mean, you know, it's one thing to-to get into acting

  • and-and start out, you know, going to sketch classes

  • and saying, "I'm going to become an actor"

  • and-and then getting into movies and then graduating.

  • But you literally jumped into Star Wars,

  • which has been a complete

  • just, like, flip for your entire life.

  • How have you handled that?

  • Um, lots of therapy, Trevor.

  • -(laughs) Lots... -You're being serious though.

  • Oh, I'm being completely serious and everyone's laughing

  • but it's-it's truly true.

  • Um, I-- Yeah, I-I had this really weird

  • immediate life change,

  • where I was truly doing improv shows,

  • not even at UCB or iO or Second City-- all these great places.

  • I was doing improv shows, like, underground indie scene improv,

  • you know what I mean? Like, and I was doing small parts on,

  • um, like, TV shows

  • -where I'd have a line here, a line there. -Uh-huh, uh-huh.

  • Um, and it was-- And then it completely changed.

  • So it's sort of been a really big mental overhaul, in a way.

  • It's-it's really interesting, because you experienced,

  • as well, the best and worst of social media at the same time.

  • -Yeah. -Because, you know, when-when you...

  • when you got the role and when the first movie came out

  • that you were in, there was this backlash,

  • where people were like, "Oh, what is she doing in the movie?

  • "Why do you have this Asian woman?

  • This makes no sense."

  • But then you had this huge wave of support

  • where people came to support you.

  • But-but you made a choice. You said after that,

  • you're like, "You know what? I'm done with being online.

  • I'm not gonna get harassed by trolls online. I'm off."

  • And you-you just don't do social media now?

  • -No. That might be the best choice I ever made, truly. -How?

  • -(applause and cheering) -Yeah. -How do you...?

  • How do you know that you're valid in life?

  • -Like, how do you...? -(laughter)

  • I don't want... I don't want to make everyone mad,

  • 'cause everyone loves you, but, I'm, like,

  • dude, you should... you should try it.

  • -You'd, like... -You should try it for a little bit.

  • But-but I'm being serious, though,

  • -because the whole world is on social media. -Yeah. Yes.

  • And then, you just did this thing where you're like,

  • "No, I'm gone," and you're happy about it.

  • It's not even like, you're like, "Oh, I-I miss it."

  • -You're-you're just gone. -I'm truly... Yeah.

  • You know what's weird is, I think...

  • Again, I came from this place

  • where I was working this day job and-and struggling,

  • and then sort of had this huge, public... public space.

  • And I felt that need that you sort of just referenced--

  • -the idea that I needed to be validated. -Right, right, right.

  • Or to be like, "I'm wearing this dress.

  • I want everyone to know I'm wearing this dress."

  • Like, just weird things.

  • And I'm like, "Kelly, what are you thinking?"

  • -Like, that's not a normal person thought. -Right.

  • And so, I think I sort of thought to myself,

  • "This is unhealthy for me. I need to get out of here."

  • And it's been the best thing I've ever done.

  • -That is so amazing. That really is amazing. -Yeah. Yeah.

  • (applause and cheering)

  • You...

  • You-you also have...

  • You're in this space where,

  • you know, your role takes so much significance.

  • Not just because of the character you're playing

  • in the series and because of how you're, like, part

  • -of this end of this saga of the series. -Mm-hmm.

  • But also because this was the first time

  • we had seen an Asian-American actress,

  • like, playing a powerful role like this

  • -in a Star Wars franchise. -Yeah.

  • Does that not come with a ton of stress?

  • Oh, it absolutely does.

  • Yeah, it absolutely comes with this sort overwhelming pressure,

  • -like this desire to represent well. -Right.

  • But also, on the other hand, I'm like,

  • "Guys, what's the big deal?

  • "Asian women speak and have feelings

  • "and can have a-a full existence in life.

  • -It's not that crazy!" -Right.

  • -Yeah. -And so... so when you... when you're on this movie,

  • and you're creating it, I mean, like,

  • is there ever a moment where you think to yourself,

  • "It's-it's all downhill from here"?

  • -(laughter) -No, I'll tell you.

  • -Because it's Star Wars. -Yes.

  • It's Star Wars.

  • Like, you-you can get any other movie afterwards and be like,

  • "Yeah, but I... I did Star Wars."

  • -(laughter) -Like, how are you...?

  • No, 'cause I'm... I wouldn't be humble enough to be...

  • If I started with Star Wars,

  • everywhere I go, people will be like,

  • "Hey, would you like to be in this movie?"

  • I'll be like, "Is it about the Jedi?"

  • (laughter)

  • Like, is that... is that, like, a weird trip

  • for you to be on, as well?

  • I think it is kind of a weird trip.

  • I mean, forever I will always,

  • I think, be grateful to have been part of this thing

  • -Right. -...that is such a cultural touchstone

  • to so many generations of people.

  • Uh, but at the same time, I feel like

  • it's also because it feels like it was a big franchise,

  • I'm like, "Oh, now I just want to do something

  • -totally different and weird." -That's amazing.

  • -Yeah. -Yeah, you can just... you can just go into it.

  • -Yeah. -You can just go into any role.

  • -You can do whatever you want. -Yeah.

  • I would be stuck in Star Wars. I won't lie.

  • -(laughter) -I would be... I would, like, bring...

  • I feel like I would bring Star Wars to movies

  • that didn't need Star Wars in it.

  • It would be, like, a dramatic scene, like The Notebook,

  • and then I would be in there, and it'd be like,

  • "He's in the bed." (whooshing like lightsaber)

  • (laughter, applause, cheering)

  • -Uh... -I think... I think

  • you're better at acting than I am. I...

  • -I'm excited to see the movie. -Thank you so much.

  • But I mean, I'm more excited to see you as a human being

  • and as an actress just, like, changing the world

  • and not being on social media.

  • Thank you so much for being on the show.

  • Thank you so much for having me.

  • Good to have you. Thank you very much.

  • Congrats on everything.

  • Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

  • opens in theaters December 20.

  • Kelly Marie Tran, everybody.

-Welcome to the show. -(exhales) Thank you so much.

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