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  • -Thank you for coming back. You know I'm a giant fan of yours.

  • Last time you were here, we were talking about this movie you did

  • with Rob Brydon, who is amazing, called "The Trip."

  • If you haven't seen it, you got to watch this.

  • [ English accent ] But where you were both doing Michael Caine

  • and talking how to do

  • the correct Michael Caine impression.

  • -Right. You just sound like you've got a cold.

  • [ Laughter ]

  • -But what if Michael Caine was sick?

  • That's what he would sound like.

  • -Yeah. You know what?

  • If they were casting for

  • a kind of Michael Caine character with a cold,

  • you'd get the part. [ Laughter ]

  • -Oh, my God. Thank you so much.

  • -[ as Michael Caine ] No, you speak through your nose.

  • You're making it sound too blocked up.

  • You've got to speak like that.

  • When he's younger, it's a bit higher, like that.

  • -He talked like that.

  • -Talked like that.

  • -Years ago -- -Alfie.

  • -But these days, it's a little lower like that

  • because he smoked so many cigars.

  • It's a bit more like that. Alright?

  • And then when you get emotional,

  • you've got to make your voice crack like that.

  • [ Laughter ]

  • [ Cheers and applause ]

  • -[ Normal voice ] I want to talk about this movie.

  • -[ Normal voice ] Sure. -"Greed."

  • It's a fascinating movie because it's funny.

  • You really made me laugh in it.

  • But then it gets kind of almost like sad

  • and, like, really a good --

  • -That's the way I like to do my shows.

  • I like to go out and please people and then make them leave

  • depressed at the end of the tour.

  • [ Laughter ]

  • It's a kind of counterintuitive way of working.

  • -Yeah. No one's ever done that. Yeah.

  • -Yeah, why not?

  • -But here's your character. You play a billionaire.

  • -Yeah. -And this is him right here.

  • I love your teeth, by the way.

  • I don't know how -- [ Laughter ]

  • -Yeah.

  • -Why did you go with the big -- -Big white teeth.

  • Because what you find with billionaires is

  • they have this -- they sport this all-year-round tan

  • because they're normally on super yachts

  • off the coast of Monaco, just doing nothing.

  • And then when they have a bit of money, they normally throw

  • the price of an S.U.V. at their mouth.

  • But the only way -- These teeth are actually clever.

  • No one has white teeth like that.

  • I mean, no one --

  • Only in California do you see white teeth like that.

  • [ Laughter ]

  • And in Britain, you certainly don't see teeth like that.

  • [ Laughter ] -No, yeah, yeah.

  • It's just true for that.

  • But that must have been shocking

  • to see yourself with those teeth.

  • -Yeah, I had to wear shades when I'd brush my teeth.

  • [ Laughter ]

  • -Can you describe this film for us?

  • -Well, it's about a super-rich guy.

  • And it's, sort of -- it's a -- Michael Winterbottom --

  • I did a bunch of movies with him.

  • -Oh, he's great.

  • -And he makes films where he talks about serious stuff

  • but doesn't make it boring, not like a big lecture.

  • No one wants to watch a movie

  • where they're being taught a lesson.

  • -Yeah.

  • -So, it's about the relationship

  • between the super rich and the super poor.

  • So one week we're shooting on super yachts in Monaco

  • and the following week we're in sort of sweatshops in Sri Lanka

  • where the workers are paid $3.50 a day.

  • And we try to make that connection.

  • -A day? -Yeah.

  • I mean, this is like -- so what we do is say that the reason

  • the super rich are super rich

  • is because a lot of people are super poor.

  • And we just make that connection.

  • But we do it in a way where --

  • But the thing is, the film is quite funny.

  • You know, so it sounds like a serious topic,

  • and it is a serious topic, but people have fun along the way.

  • What you do is, you make people laugh

  • and then you just sort of take the message

  • and you put it in their top pocket like that and just say,

  • "Have a read at that later," you know.

  • -Yeah, exactly.

  • I hope that it does start a conversation

  • and we make changes with that because you see the difference,

  • and it's just shocking, like you were saying.

  • -Well, we all talk about diversity these days.

  • We talk about, you know, gender politics

  • and we talk about the environment.

  • We try to be grown up about this stuff.

  • But the one thing it seems that people don't talk about so much

  • is workers not being paid a decent living wage.

  • -Yeah.

  • -I mean, the thing is --

  • And some of these people don't have running water.

  • It's not like, you know, if you just up their wages --

  • It's not like the company is going to go down.

  • -Yeah, they're making billions of dollars.

  • -They've got a margin of error that they can, like,

  • rack it up a few dollars. -Of course.

  • I want to show a clip. Here's Steve Coogan in "Greed."

  • Take a look at this.

  • -Is this an investigation into my tax affairs?

  • I pay what I have to and no more because I'm not stupid.

  • If you want to chase people avoiding tax,

  • why don't you go after the big boys?

  • I mean, look at Apple. Look at Amazon. Starbucks.

  • Why are you chasing me?

  • -Right, it's -- it's not them.

  • -I suggest you Google it, Mr. Chairman.

  • There's another company. How much tax did Google pay?

  • Not very much.

  • If you don't believe me, talk to Bono.

  • He's avoided hundreds of millions of tax

  • while claiming that U2 are based in Holland.

  • Doesn't stop him going around the world

  • in your nan's sunglasses

  • proclaiming about ending poverty or whatever.

  • This is him in the "Daily Mail."

  • "You'd be stupid not to try and cut your tax bill," says Bono.

  • -Whoa.

  • [ Cheers and applause ]

  • -I'm always a little -- I'm always a little kind of, uh --

  • I'm almost like, "Oh, God, I hope Bono doesn't see that."

  • [ Laughter ] -Yeah, exactly.

  • -And then I was thinking, "I think he'll survive

  • some mild criticism from Steve Coogan in an independent movie."

  • [ Laughter ]

  • -He definitely will. I think he'll do okay, yeah.

  • We love when you come by. I wish you came by more often.

  • I love you, man. Steve Coogan.

-Thank you for coming back. You know I'm a giant fan of yours.

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