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  • - Hey guys, this is Austin,

  • and you might remember this guy.

  • So last year, we tried to rebuild

  • a super old-school desktop with some proper,

  • oh, I got that on really tight,

  • some proper internals,

  • so with a RTX 2080 TI, Core i7 9th Gen.

  • It was very exciting.

  • However, one of the problems we had

  • was that because I gave myself eight hours

  • to do the entire build, it technically works,

  • but, well, with no cooling inside and all this hardware,

  • it runs toasty.

  • By toasty, I mean, like, it's obscenely warm.

  • So today, we're going to try to fix that

  • and actually rebuild this thing properly.

  • All right, so some of my parts are in.

  • I'm actually still waiting for Amazon

  • to deliver a few more things,

  • but, first step, I want to take everything out of this case

  • because, as you can see, it is pretty filthy.

  • And to be fair, this system does work,

  • so right now it is fine.

  • The big issue though is especially with that 2080 TI,

  • it was incredibly warm.

  • Like, way, way too warm that I would never

  • want to run a system that was throttling pretty heavily.

  • Now I did order a Blu-ray drive,

  • so at least we'll be able to cover this hole,

  • but I'll definitely keep the CD drive there

  • just because it looks cool.

  • - [Ken] Did we not order a white one?

  • - [Austin] No, I couldn't find a white one.

  • Wait, wait, does that look janky enough

  • that it actually looks okay?

  • - [Ken] No, that's actually fine.

  • - Okay, so we've got our WD Black.

  • We'll put that back in a little bit.

  • - [Ken] I actually don't remember

  • building this thing at all,

  • so, you'd-- - It was, like, December.

  • It was, like a few months ago.

  • It was, like, six months ago.

  • You don't remember the video at all?

  • - [Ken] And we're overclocking this?

  • - Yes.

  • So I think we're gonna actually be able to reuse

  • almost everything on this board.

  • So we have 16 gigs of RAM?

  • Yes, 16 gigs of RAM, so that should be fine.

  • Wait.

  • No, I think I lied.

  • Oh, it's eight gigs of RAM.

  • Wow, we really got lazy.

  • I'll find some more RAM.

  • Oh, look at that, beautiful thermal paste application

  • by Past Austin.

  • - [Ken] At least we did one thing right, right?

  • - Hey!

  • Dude, I'm so excited for that case speaker.

  • - [Ken] 'Cause it actually worked.

  • - It does, I like the beeping when I turn on my system.

  • All right, I think that is about as clean

  • as that's going to get.

  • That's actually way shinier than it used to be.

  • So, with our i7 9700K out,

  • we pretty much got this entire thing disassembled,

  • which means that, I guess let's try to figure out

  • how we could put fans in here first.

  • So, if we take this out...

  • (drive bay rattling)

  • - [Ken] Yeah?

  • (drive bay rattling)

  • Scratches build character.

  • - [Austin] Wait, we're just gonna have

  • an exposed fan here?

  • No, look at it from the front.

  • Do we have some kind of grill or grate

  • or something we can put on top of it?

  • - [Ken] You know what we could do?

  • - What can we do?

  • - [Ken] I can go to Target and make one.

  • - So we finally have, a day later,

  • our Amazon package with not only the cooler for the system,

  • which I really, really hope fits, but importantly,

  • we also have our brand-new Z390 motherboard.

  • Now this is important for a couple of reasons.

  • First of all, there's no extra real reason

  • why we have this ITX.

  • We have a much larger board now.

  • But importantly, since this is Z390,

  • we'll be able to overclock this a little bit better.

  • So my thought is that we should split this up.

  • So I'll work on getting the motherboard

  • and the cooler built

  • if you want to figure out how to get

  • the actual 80 mil fans installed in here.

  • We don't have, oh, we barely have clearance

  • for the power supply.

  • Oh man, that's close, all right.

  • So that's gonna be a little flashier than I like.

  • This actually does have LEDs on board,

  • or rather, it has RGB.

  • I might turn that off

  • 'cause I definitely don't want any RGB coming out.

  • But, I mean, there's no window or anything,

  • so we should be okay.

  • - All right, so I got a bunch of things

  • that look like they're overkill for that one vent,

  • but Home Depot doesn't exactly sell, you know,

  • this big of whatever hardware cloth, wiring,

  • whatever you want to call it.

  • It's like very complicated model building.

  • Hey, look at that!

  • Cool!

  • So I added the mesh,

  • and I glued it in place,

  • and most of it is all set and the glue's dried and stuff.

  • In the meantime, while I let that dry,

  • we can actually add the 80 mil fan to the inside now.

  • (fan rattling)

  • Yeah, like that.

  • - Hey, Ken, we may have overlooked something.

  • Where's our hard drive gonna go now?

  • Okay, let's put it here for right now

  • above the Blu-ray drive?

  • - Look, it would actually look really nice right here.

  • - That doesn't look really nice, that looks dumb!

  • It looks like you forgot your hard drive.

  • Another day, another chance to work on the Old Boi PC.

  • So, last night, we got this thing actually set up.

  • It is posting and I've got Windows and everything installed.

  • I did some very minor cable management,

  • but the main thing is that we're still waiting

  • on the bracket to actually put our normal one terabyte

  • hard drive in so we can pair this with Optane.

  • I will say this thing does look pretty sleepery.

  • So besides the black power supply

  • which is a little bit of a giveaway,

  • everything else back here looks pretty standard.

  • I mean, if you look at the motherboard,

  • obviously, DisplayPort wasn't around in 2001,

  • but with our PCI covers onboard,

  • it looks fairly low-key,

  • but especially if you come around front.

  • I'm pretty happy with just how old-school this system looks.

  • I will say, this looks a little bit more jank

  • (laughing) than I think I had hoped it would be.

  • I don't really know what else we can do with it.

  • We can overclock the 2070, but I'm--

  • (record scratching) Wait, what?

  • Where did the 2070 come from?

  • Well, originally, I had something different in mind.

  • The main thing I'm going to do here

  • is swap out that 2080 with this RTX 2070.

  • This should give me a much more reasonable TDP

  • inside this case.

  • So I was noticing this was running

  • a little bit slower than I expected,

  • and I open it up to find that the fan's not spinning.

  • It's like, oh, that's weird.

  • Well, the fan is oversized.

  • It's literally stuck on the battery on the motherboard.

  • So this is a passively-cooled RTX 2070 right now.

  • Through a weird coincidence,

  • we may have to put the 2080 TI back in here

  • because that's probably our best option.

  • Okay, so the 2080 TI is up and running.

  • I'm currently running through my first run of Time Spy.

  • It's toasty, like, it's no doubt that

  • there's a lot of heat coming out of the back

  • not only because of the power supply,

  • but also because of the rear exhaust fan,

  • both of which are dumping heat this way.

  • So we're throttling somewhat,

  • although, actually, it's not too bad.

  • So I think now what I'm going to do

  • is I'm going to manually spin up the fans a little bit more

  • and then we can start overclocking.

  • I'm not gonna touch that 2080 TI.

  • It's already throttling as is,

  • but what I do think is we do have some headroom

  • on the processor.

  • So normally I would overclock manually

  • or sometimes I'll give the motherboard auto-tool a try,

  • but Intel now has a performance maximizer tool.

  • So this is not something you can use on all Intel CPUs,

  • so you need a Z390 and you need a 9th Gen processor.

  • So that actually took about an hour.

  • The screen went black for almost that entire time,

  • so I wasn't sure if it was working,

  • but it looks like it did.

  • Let's see what our results are.

  • So we got 200 megahertz more.

  • A'ight, I mean, that's not exactly

  • the largest overclock in the world,

  • but it's better than it telling us

  • that we don't have enough cooling

  • to run it at stock speeds, right?

  • - [Ken] You know, I actually have a mod

  • that I think can help us.

  • - Okay.

  • - [Ken] You want to hold the camera

  • for a second? - I will hold the camera.

  • (panel rattling)

  • (Austin laughing)

  • - Problem solved. - I mean,

  • that actually does solve the problem,

  • but it kinda ruins the aesthetic!

  • Now you can tell it's clearly not

  • a stock-looking system.

  • - We can turn off the LEDs or tape over them,

  • and we have beige in it.

  • (tense music)

  • - Powered everything.

  • - [Ken] So, what is happening?

  • - Okay, so it's been a couple days

  • since we've finished Old Boi.

  • We're trying to shoot the conclusion,

  • and for some reason it's no longer posting

  • or booting whatsoever.

  • So this is the point in the video

  • where I was going to give you an update,

  • and like, "Hey, look, Old Boi is done!

  • "We installed our hard drive and a new enclosure!

  • "It's all up and running and perfect!"

  • - [Ken] Wait, you installed the hard drive.

  • Were you wearing your anti-static ankle bracelet?

  • "Let's revisit Old Boi," you said.

  • - No, no, it's fine, it's fine.

  • - [Ken] "Let's reshoot the ending," you--

  • - It's fine, it's fine!

  • - [Ken] You know, this video was done.

  • (PC beeping)

  • - Come on, Old Boi.

  • You don't have to be so smug about it, you know.

  • - [Ken] I'm not smug, I'm just...

  • - Right?

  • So I'm gonna reseat the memory.

  • But I just don't understand what changed.

  • It's literally been two days.

  • I hear friendly beeps,

  • whirring and wishing and whooping and--

  • (PC beeping)

  • VGA?

  • It's a VGA problem, wow.

  • Okay, so let me reseat the graphics card.

  • I think the cable was just tension

  • 'cause I'm, like-- (metal rattling)

  • - Oh, god. - What was that?

  • - [Ken] (laughing) What did you do?

  • - It was like a thump!

  • (PC beeping)

  • All right, so let me put a different graphics card in now.

  • - [Ken] All right, so we have the new card in.

  • - I just put a 1650 in just to see

  • if it's a 2080 TI issue or it's a motherboard issue or what.

  • (PC beeping)

  • (heavy sighing)

  • - You'll probably lose-- - This was fine before.

  • Wait, should we try a different monitor?

  • There's no way the monitor would keep it from posting.

  • - [Ken] Okay, so, just put it up here.

  • We'll just rely on integrated graphics

  • and see if that works. - Just pull the graphics card

  • out all altogether? - Just pull

  • the graphics card altogether. - Okay, so, we can't even boot

  • on integrated graphics.

  • What could've gone wrong?

  • Did you unplug something

  • to make this video more interesting?

  • - [Ken] No.

  • Why would I do that?

  • - Wait-- - No, why would I do that,

  • (laughing) you're really-- (Austin laughing)

  • - So I've cleared the CMOS now,

  • and now-- (PC beeping)

  • Nope.

  • And the CPU comes up.

  • VGA, and it sits on VGA.

  • It just can't get any kind of graphics, though.

  • We know everything is plugged in.

  • We've tried different GPUs.

  • We've even tried running on the integrated graphics.

  • - [Ken] Hold on, I have a plan.

  • I have a plan.

  • - What plan might that be?

  • - You want to hold the camera.

  • Now, I don't know if you did this when you were a kid,

  • 'cause you had a TV when you were a kid, right?

  • - A TV? - Yeah.

  • - Yeah. - Right, this is off, right?

  • Yeah, it's off. - Ah, I guess.

  • - So something that we did growing up

  • to get the TV to work...

  • (fist thudding)

  • (PC beeping)

  • So it was a shot. (laughing)

  • - It is now supposedly fine.

  • By switching to HDMI, let's actually pull this monitor,

  • 'cause the monitor's the only thing that's changed.

  • If the monitor is enough

  • to keep this entire system from posting.

  • Just gonna find my inner zen right now.

  • My inner Ryzen.

  • - [Ken] So they plugged in a line from the PC

  • to our TV over here

  • just to see-- - Oh, not coming up, though.

  • - [Ken] No?

  • - Anything coming on that?

  • I'm not getting the beeps anymore

  • when we unplug the DisplayPort.

  • Let's try HDMI with the integrated graphics.

  • That's the only thing left.

  • If this doesn't fix it,

  • I'm literally at a loss for what happened.

  • Something must've broken.

  • - [Ken] All right, moment of truth.

  • - I don't think this is gonna work.

  • (PC chiming)

  • Okay, goes straight to boot, pretends it's fine.

  • Oh, are you (beep) serious right now?

  • - Wow! - I don't understand

  • how this monitor can keep the entire system from posting.

  • Like, that, to me, is crazy.

  • All right, just gonna drop this in slot one

  • like it was before.

  • So now, in theory--

  • (PC beeping)

  • Oh, what?

  • - [Ken] Moral of the story?

  • - What is the moral of the story?

  • The moral of the story is life is not fair sometimes,

  • and there are just no answers to life's mysteries.

  • Or I did something dumb and I don't know,

  • but I can't imagine what did it, I can't.

  • - [Ken] The moral of the story,

  • if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

  • - I swear, if that's the end of the video,

  • I'm gonna be so mad.

  • So, Ken, what do we have up right now?

  • - [Ken] So, we're in Windows.

  • We were in Windows.

  • Okay, now we're in Windows again.

  • So right now we're plugged into HDMI

  • on the 2080 TI-- - GPU.

  • It's literally set up the way it was.

  • The issue the entire time

  • had nothing to do with the computer.

  • It was the display which kept it from posting

  • and kept us from getting any signal.

  • - [Ken] 'Cause this is a 1080 display over HDMI.

  • That's 4K, no, so's this,

  • so I think it's-- - So you're trying to tell me

  • that the issue to our entire problem here

  • is that our 2080 TI can't push a 4K signal?

  • That's the whole problem?

  • - [Ken] That's my theory.

  • - That's a dumb theory.

  • Well, why don't we do this before we do that?

  • Why don't we take the DisplayPort

  • and plug it into this monitor?

  • - [Ken] Oh, there it is, oh.

  • - System just restarted.

  • - Oh. - What, why did...

  • What?

  • How is unplugging the DisplayPort--

  • (PC beeping)

  • Hold on, hold on, hold on.

  • Let me compose myself for a second.

  • So the issue we're having right now

  • is that if we plug anything DisplayPort in

  • regardless of the display

  • into the graphics card or the integrated graphics,

  • our system no longer boots.

  • I've never seen plugging a DisplayPort cable

  • into a graphics card reboot a system.

  • I cannot (grunting) imagine that.

  • Do we have some weird cable shorting it?

  • - [Ken] I mean, it's crazy because--

  • - No, no, I'm, no, no.

  • - You're committed? - This will not stand.

  • This will not stand.

  • (rock music)

  • - [Ken] Oh, it's on.

  • - Wait, it was the cable?

  • It was...

  • SO the problem the entire time

  • was that we had a long DisplayPort cable,

  • and that was enough to kill the system.

  • A DisplayPort cable?

  • I'm gonna lose my (horn honking) mind.

  • Are you-- - So, wait, so,

  • if we plug in that cable (laughing) into here,

  • will it work?

  • - Yeah, I'm sure it will.

  • I'm sure, 100% sure it will.

  • - [Matt] In hindsight, I felt like

  • we probably should tried that an hour ago.

  • (Ken laughing)

  • - (laughing) Thanks, Matt!

  • I'm sure this is just gonna magically show up, okay.

  • (Ken laughing) (Matt laughing)

  • Let me see this cable.

  • I'm actually really curious to see what kind of evil cable

  • caused this many problems.

  • It's a long DisplayPort cable,

  • but I've never seen a cable cause this many issues.

  • Here you go, you can take it and just,

  • see how long it is, see?

  • Look how far apart we are right now.

  • This is enough to kill the system

  • regardless of what graphics card we plugged it into,

  • regardless of integrated graphics.

  • - [Ken] It restarted the system!

  • - We plugged this in and it restarts it!

  • - [Ken] Here.

  • - [Austin] Where did you put the cable?

- Hey guys, this is Austin,

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